Writers' Ideas

[El Zilcho]

I'm newly inspired to take up that intertwining crime story, and I think it will be set in a IV Liberty City, due to the easy of use (gangs already set, city already named, streets all there etc.) but it will be with new characters, and lots of unique stuff, so don't expect ridiculous cameos of in game characters.

Sweet, I've been yearning for someone to put up a story like that. It'll be cool to see all the situations of all of the different IV gangs expanded upon.

Thanks, I think the GTA project will be postponed though. I'm going to keep the Assorted Tales of the Criminal Underworld (ATCU) separate from the GTA story, as that would need to have an underlining story and several links, while the ATCU could be totally separate, and have many chapters that are unlinked.

[sam33]

I've been really getting into the idea of doing a story based on Succubi which is for you who don't know female demons who are obsessed with power and sex. They use there powers of seduction to get what they want and there male counterpart is called an Incubbi (as in the band incubus) who usually revolve around death (like the grim reaper). There's quite alot of stories aorund them on the internet and it's be great to do a small one shot revolving around one.

[Omnia sunt Communia]

As long as you don't mike it a cliche pile of wanking material (AKA Twilight) then it should be pretty good. Are you going to use the traditional version of Succubi where they appear in the man's dreams to fornicate with him? Or go for a more modern approach?

[sam33]

I'd probably do a modern approach with a bit of the classic twist. Don't worry though there will be some dream f*cking going on. Here's a basic outline so far.

 

Raylan Owen is a young, cocky, inexperienced detective working in CID who soons finds himself plunged into a vicious world of sex and violence. A man has been found brutally murdered and his last known accomplice was a mysterious woman who he was seen exiting a club with. Raylan himself is plagued with disturbing nightmares and with the body count rising he has to find the killler fast, before they find him that is. A Paranormal investigation ensues with deadly consequences.

 

That's just a basic outline but I'll be starting the Prolouge within the next couple of days.

Edited May 11, 2009 by sam33

[Eminence]

This is just a question, unrelated to pretty much everything.

 

Why do so many people misspell prologue as prolouge? What the hell is louge supposed to denote? Prolouge? Prologue!

[Rhoda]

I think it's more of a typo; I often mis-spell "plague" as "plaque" or even "rouge" and "rogue". Not that I use any of those words frequently enough to warrant them as regular errors, but all the same.

[Eminence]

All the time, though? Typos shouldn't be that common. Especially in posted pieces. The first word of a lot of stories is often, naturally, 'prologue'. When that first word is incorrect... well, let's just say first impressions are priceless.

[Oxidizer]

Your Succubi idea, Sam, is right up my alley. Especially if it's not going to be needlessly erotic and is going to be a modern take on the theme; I like that this happens to (or affects) a CID detective too.

[Typhus]

Aren't Succubi a little boring? Not the best mythological creature really.

Granted, it's original. But could they hold a story?

[Rhoda]

Aren't Succubi a little boring? Not the best mythological creature really.

Granted, it's original. But could they hold a story?

Depends on how dangerous you want it to be. The advantage of using a more obscure, original myth is you can get away with adapting it to suit your needs and narratives. Maybe this particular "species" of Succubi could drive the sufferer insane? The world is his burrito/oyster (delete as Mexican as you wish to be).

[Oxidizer]

It doesn't have to be a literal succubi; it could be metaphorical. Like sex addiction. Only, I doubt that's what Sam had in mind.

 

There's a lot you can do with the theme. Make it appear in dreams, during drug in-takes or whilst in a coma. The possibilities are vast, and as long as there's a lot of free reign to take the theme, it can be original and made to be interesting.

[Omnia sunt Communia]

You could turn the story on its head and play off the idea of them appearing in your dreams; make the Succubus male! He would appear as a normal, out going male in the real world but would appear as an tantalizing female in your dreams. Cue homoerotic overtones.

 

I was thinking of writing an narrative about Niko's time during the war; though I know it would be Story #345 in 9,000,000. It's not the most original idea in the world. I'll probably skip it for now. Though I've been gradually getting back into writing. I hope to get something written soon. It's been too long since I've graced this land with my stories; far too long.

[sam33]

I've got the first couple of sentences of what will be the first chapter written out, however I do have a small problem with perfectionism (even to the point of having to put in the right connectives in, And-to boring, however-to overused etc). I'm not sure whether to add the Prologue (Prolouge) which was going to serve the purpose of showing my villain from the begining but I'm not sure whether it's needed all that much and would just end up being to uneeded.

 

@ Jacky I was thinking of adding the villain as a man but then I realised it wouldn't change that much. Given my main character is a straight male it serves the purpose of the story for the villain to be a female (To seduce him and thus make him vunerable) however if the villain were to be male (An Incubus; who as it turns out can look like an ordinary man apart from the tell tale sign of there massive frozen genitals ) then I would probably go along your path. Overall it doesn't matter (much to me that is) because a Sucubuses true form is that of an ugly hag (which I think is mixed gender anyway) and that she just disguises herself as what straight men see as an attractive female to seduce and kill males. Then again it's early days and anythings possible.

 

However I am definitely modernising the myth like Oxi said as I may make it more a metaphorical thing. I'm probably gonna end up doing what Masterkraft said which was taking the orignal myth, modernising it and adding some twists in along the way.

 

thanks for the support guys

[The Unvirginiser]

Slight problem with SAS being locked due to lack of communication. I'll get it open as soon as I can get hold of a moderator, thanks.

 

EDIT: Sorted now (:

Edited May 15, 2009 by The Unvirginiser

[Ciabatta]

I'm going to continue to write my Western after that's over or whenever I get frustrated with it, I'll probably go back to my conventional style of gangster literature. Something having to do with the early days of Los Angeles gangs. Gangs such as the Slausons, the Businessmen, etc. before there were Bloods and Crips running the streets. Then, I want to show the transition into the Bloods and Crips and then the human element of gang members as well such as how they deal with loss, how they want to get out, and other things like that.

[Omnia sunt Communia]

That's exactly what this forum needs. Something about street gangs that doesn't dissolve into masturbation material for all the 50 Cent/Snoop Dogg wannabes out there. I was thinking of writing something similar; but about Los Santos street gangs (The Ballas in particular).

[El Zilcho]

I've just gone and got my work published!

 

I kid you not, but in my English class, we wrote poems about subjects involving our opinion. I chose paedophiles (I had seen a news report just that morning about such) and wrote a poem warning children about strangers (cliche, I know!) but I received a letter today saying it would be published along with lots of other poems in the Anthology coming out on the 31 August! Bloody hell, I wasn't expecting that! I'm chuffed, I really didn't think the poem was that good.

 

Shall I post it here?

[Chunk]

I had one of my works published in one of those children's poetry books.

 

It was totally ripped off from that 10 Little Dinosaurs poem. I would post it, but it's primary school material, I'm crayon class material now.

[Osric]

Jacky's Mercenary BUYG idea has inspired me to make a military BUYG. I will need help with the coding and such, but I was thinking a BUYG set around modern militaries, revolutionary groups, and terrorist cells. It'll be set in 2018, far enough for political changes but not enough for military technology changes. I will post more details on the story, but here are some things.....

 

1. The United States and China are both superpowers, China is more powerful and the USA is in decline

 

2. China has occupied several territories through negotiation and coercion.

 

3. There is a plot to assassinate Vladimir Putin and restore the Czars of Russia

 

4. Japan has just finished a bloody war with North Korea

 

5. China is a master of decieving nations

 

6. The United States is no longer feared as a superpower

 

7. An anti-Chinese and anti-communist resistance force has appeared in Japan and South Korea

 

8. The United States is training said Asian resistance and Russian monarchists

 

9. NATO is disbanded

 

10. The UN is utterly powerless

 

These are the factions I want to use....

 

United States

Great Britain

France

Russia

China

Israel

IRA

Hamas

The Ushi Party(Russian Monarchists)

The Black Dragon Society(Resistance Force)

 

The weapons will range from crude homemade weapons like shivs and molotov cocktails to civilian weapons like basic knives, handguns, and shotguns to military-grade weapons like AK-47's, M16's, and rocket launchers.

 

I know you guys will mock me for including France, but they are a permanent member of the UN Security Council, have small nuclear weapons, and well-equipped soldiers.

[sam33]

Good work zilcho. When I was your age 13 or so we had to write a I have a dream poem, I did mine about depression. It's still in a big book somewhere along with others..

[TomVDC]

I've been thinking a lot this week. (Jeah I know wierd is it, and you know it didn't hurt.)

And I came to the conclusion I want to write again, so I opened up Word, I turned on the radio and I came up with this.

 

After 7 long years of hiding it’s time for Tom Dell Castillo to return home. He escaped from his hometown of Ostend that was filled with corrupt cops, gang rivalry, theft and murder. But now that his past has caught up with him he comes back from Vice City to save himself and his family.

Only this isn’t going to be as easy as he thought…

 

Anybody interested to see this as a story? I thought off it as a game script, going a bit down the road like SAS SFS and more of those great scripts.

 

grtz

 

[sam33]

 

I've been thinking a lot this week. (Jeah I know wierd is it, and you know it didn't hurt.)

And I came to the conclusion I want to write again, so I opened up Word, I turned on the radio and I came up with this.

 

After 7 long years of hiding it’s time for Tom Dell Castillo to return home. He escaped from his hometown of Ostend that was filled with corrupt cops, gang rivalry, theft and murder. But now that his past has caught up with him he comes back from Vice City to save himself and his family.

Only this isn’t going to be as easy as he thought…

 

Anybody interested to see this as a story? I thought off it as a game script, going a bit down the road like SAS SFS and more of those great scripts.

 

grtz

The idea of leaving and having the past catching up with you isnt in my views the most original idea. And there's not much else to go on from that little snippet. Also some more of the elite writers here *cough Eminence cough* frown upon gamescripts for some reason.

[Chunk]

Also some more of the elite writers here *cough Eminence cough* frown upon gamescripts for some reason.

Define "elite writers".

[TomVDC]

 

I've been thinking a lot this week. (Jeah I know wierd is it, and you know it didn't hurt.)

And I came to the conclusion I want to write again, so I opened up Word, I turned on the radio and I came up with this.

 

After 7 long years of hiding it’s time for Tom Dell Castillo to return home. He escaped from his hometown of Ostend that was filled with corrupt cops, gang rivalry, theft and murder. But now that his past has caught up with him he comes back from Vice City to save himself and his family.

Only this isn’t going to be as easy as he thought…

 

Anybody interested to see this as a story? I thought off it as a game script, going a bit down the road like SAS SFS and more of those great scripts.

 

grtz

The idea of leaving and having the past catching up with you isnt in my views the most original idea. And there's not much else to go on from that little snippet. Also some more of the elite writers here *cough Eminence cough* frown upon gamescripts for some reason.

 

I know but you know it isn't like in any other gta, this guy actually was married had a job, he had everything a guy could want. And they killed his wife and now he wants revenge. I could also make it narrative but then it wouldn't have the game feel to it anymore which I really want to have in it. The story is build up around that one fact that happened in his passed, and it will only be reveiled by the end. It actually was also inspired by the 'parents' thread in GTA Next. The guy has a very detailed past with parents and stuff. Everything is known about his past except a few things that will lead up to him escaping to Vice City.

And I know about Eminence... A long time ago we've crossed roads, I don't want that to happen again in the way it happened then. (Nothing personal Eminence)

 

grtz

Tom

Edited May 17, 2009 by ~Vic Vance~

[The Unvirginiser]

Frowning upon scripts is a matter of personal taste, being an 'elite' writer doesn't give anybody the right to disregard certain pieces for personal taste reasons. If you want to do a script, then do it for you. Don't worry about what one or two people may think because for every one you'll have ten fans who love it.

[TomVDC]

Frowning upon scripts is a matter of personal taste, being an 'elite' writer doesn't give anybody the right to disregard certain pieces for personal taste reasons. If you want to do a script, then do it for you. Don't worry about what one or two people may think because for every one you'll have ten fans who love it.

 

And I totally agree with that, and that's coming from the writer of the most epic script that I have ever seen in WD.

 

grtz

Tom

[Eminence]

The reason I frown upon gamescripts isn't because they're scripts, by the way. It's because they're basically rehashed ideas from actual GTA games in new packaging. Even some of the more successful scripts, which I won't mention by name, actually feature missions literally copied over with a new title and different characters within them.

 

Gamescripts are totally cool and fine for fun, I mean that. Just don't get carried away with any potential praise you may receive, because you'll never get anywhere in professional writing with them.

[TomVDC]

The reason I frown upon gamescripts isn't because they're scripts, by the way. It's because they're basically rehashed ideas from actual GTA games in new packaging. Even some of the more successful scripts, which I won't mention by name, actually feature missions literally copied over with a new title and different characters within them.

 

Gamescripts are totally cool and fine for fun, I mean that. Just don't get carried away with any potential praise you may receive, because you'll never get anywhere in professional writing with them.

 

Jeah, you might think some gta mission might be copied.

But it's difficult to write a totally new mission, knowing that there have all ready been a lot of scenario's for missions in gta.

 

And that's why I write, for FUN! I write narrative stories in dutch and post them on netlog and stuff. It's still a lot easier for a lot of people like me to write scripts in English than full narrative stories because off the simple reason that English isn't our mother language.

 

grtz

Tom

[The Unvirginiser]

The reason I frown upon gamescripts isn't because they're scripts, by the way. It's because they're basically rehashed ideas from actual GTA games in new packaging. Even some of the more successful scripts, which I won't mention by name, actually feature missions literally copied over with a new title and different characters within them.

 

Gamescripts are totally cool and fine for fun, I mean that. Just don't get carried away with any potential praise you may receive, because you'll never get anywhere in professional writing with them.

I think if you really analyze the scripts in depth, then a lot of mission ideas are taken from games and films. But it's the narrative that is the best part, I feel. Characters, relationships, emotions... characters go through a very long journey and experience a lot, sometimes scripts capture this better than any narratiove could. The reader feels as though they are the character, they've played through the missions that they have and experienced the losses, victories and challenges that the main character has. The storylines are easily as complex as a book, and I'm talking about full, completed scripts here. It isn't all about the missions, since some scripts like Cubanwhip's is pretty much all dialouge.

They really are fun to write, and the GTA community love them, its like buying a brand new game for some. And I don't think any of the more succesful script writers aim to go anywhere with their GTA work, I found SAS a nice break from serious wriitng, and I think it's done wonders for my writing style and technique.

[sam33]

Also some more of the elite writers here *cough Eminence cough* frown upon gamescripts for some reason.

Define "elite writers".

Go find a thesaurus. Find Elite then add it to writer... I love game scripts but I do agree with Eminence.