VS

[death 2 the prom king]

I have driven one of those new mazda 3 hatchbacks there quite good but hardly any head room in the backseat but I didn't really care about that because I was just driving one before the other week when I was in melbourne for a week there were only 2 people in the car me of course and my good mate ryan the mazda drives like a dream expect I pulled up by the police because my back p plate kept falling off and as well as for a random breath test.

Would it hurt to use some fullstops? I nearly passed out due to lack of breath.

 

And coppers don't pull you over for not having your p-plates up, how are they to know your a p-plater anyway? My brother never drives with his p-plates up, because he has this crazy idea that p-platers attrack more attention from the fuzz, he has only once been pulled over, and that was for speeding.

 

Believe me cops don't target you because you're a p-plater, they target you becuase you're breaking the law.

It must have been a random pull over because my mate I was following didn't get pulled over. I always put up my p plates because the copper said I could either get fined or lose points off my licence he said maybe even both I wouldn't take that risk quite yet and aswell I have never broken the law.

[A.Fonz]

I guess it's time for a new one, this is taken straight from Wheels Magazine, October 2006.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Price

$71,990 (AUD)

 

Drivetrain

 

Engine: V8 (90°), ohv, 16v

Layout: front engine (north-south), rear drive

Capacity: 6.059 litres

Bore/stroke: 103.0/90.9mm

Compression: 10.3:1

Power: 317kw @ 6000rpm

Torque: 568Nm @ 4800rpm

Redline/Cut-out: 6400rpm/6600rpm

Transmission: 5-speed automatic

km/h 1000rpm: 12.2/20.0/31.0/43.8/52.7

Gear ratios: 3.59/2.19/1.41/1.00/0.83

Diff ratio: 3.06

 

Chassis

 

Body: steel, 4 doors, 5 seats

L/W/H: 5015/1880/1462mm

Wheelbase: 3050mm

Front/rear track: 1600/1605mm

Weight: 1888kg

Boot capacity: 442 litres

Fuel/capacity: 98 octane/71 litres

Fuel Consumption: 14.7L/100km (test average)

Suspension:

Front: Double A-arms, coil springs, anti-roll bar

Rear: Multi-links, coil springs, anti-roll bar

Steering: Power rack and pinion

Turning circle: 11.9m (2.75 turns lock to lock)

Front Brakes: ventilated discs (360mm)

Rear Brakes: ventilated discs (350mm)

Tyres: Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar

Tyre Size: 245/45ZR20 (f) ; 255/45ZR20 ®

 

Performance

 

Power to weight: 168kW/tonne

Speed at indicated 100km/h: 99

Speed in gears:

1) 77km/h @ 6400rpm

2) 127km/h @ 6400rpm

3) 196hm/h @ 6400rpm

4) 250km/h @ 5700rpm*

5) 250hm/h @ 4750rpm*

6) N/A

Standing-start acceleration:

0-60km/h: 3.0sec

0-80km/h: 4.2sec

0-100km/h: 5.7sec

0-120km/h: 7.4sec

0-140km/h: 9.8sec

0-160km/h: 12.5sec

0-180km/h: 15.5sec

0-400m: 13.9sec @ 170 km/h

Rolling acceleration: Drive

80-120km/h: 3.1sec

 

*Electronically limited

 

 

 

 

 

 

Price

$53,990 (AUD)

 

Drivetrain

 

Engine: V8 (90°), ohv, 16v

Layout: front engine (north-south), rear drive

Capacity: 5.967 litres

Bore/stroke: 101.6/92.0mm

Compression: 10.4:1

Power: 270kW @ 5700rpm

Torque: 530Nm @ 4400rpm

Redline/Cut-out: 6000rpm/6200rpm

Transmission: 6-speed automatic

km/h 1000rpm: 10.6/18.2/28.0/37.3/50.5/64.0

Gear ratios: 4.03/2.36/1.53/1.15/0.85/0.67

Diff ratio: 2.92

 

Chassis

 

Body: steel, 4 doors, 5 seats

L/W/H: 4894/1899/1475mm

Wheelbase: 2915mm

Front/rear track: 1592/1608mm

Weight: 1803kg

Boot capacity: 496 litres

Fuel/capacity: 91 octane/73 litres

Fuel Consumption: 15.1L/100km (test average)

Suspension:

Front: Struts, A-arms, anti-roll bar

Rear: Multi-links, coil springs, anti-roll bar

Steering: Power rack and pinion

Turning circle: 11.4m (2.9 turns lock to lock)

Front Brakes: ventilated discs (321mm)

Rear Brakes: ventilated discs (324mm)

Tyres: Bridgestone Potenza RE050A

Tyre Size: 245/40R19 94W

 

Performance

 

Power to weight: 150kW/tonne

Speed at indicated 100km/h: 97

Speed in gears:

1) 66km/h @ 6200rpm

2) 113km/h @ 6200rpm

3) 174hm/h @ 6200rpm

4) 231km/h @ 6200rpm

5) 250hm/h @ 4950rpm*

6) 250hm/h @ 3900rpm*

Standing-start acceleration:

0-60km/h: 2.9sec

0-80km/h: 4.3sec

0-100km/h: 5.8sec

0-120km/h: 7.8sec

0-140km/h: 10.1sec

0-160km/h: 12.8sec

0-180km/h: 16.4sec

0-400m: 13.9sec @ 166 km/h

Rolling acceleration: Drive

80-120km/h: 3.5sec

 

*Electronically limited

 

 

 

 

 

 

Price

$62,210 (AUD)

 

Drivetrain

 

Engine: V8 (90°), ohv, 32v

Layout: front engine (north-south), rear drive

Capacity: 5.408 litres

Bore/stroke: 90.2/105.8mm

Compression: 10.5:1

Power: 290kW @ 5500rpm

Torque: 520Nm @ 4500rpm

Redline/Cut-out: -/6000rpm

Transmission: 6-speed automatic

km/h 1000rpm: 10.4/18.5/28.5/38.0/49.8/62.8

Gear ratios: 4.17/2.34/1.52/1.14/0.87/0.69

Diff ratio: 2.73

 

Chassis

 

Body: steel, 4 doors, 5 seats

L/W/H: 4944/1864/1435mm

Wheelbase: 2829mm

Front/rear track: 1553/1586mm

Weight: 1870kg

Boot capacity: 504 litres

Fuel/capacity: 95 octane/68 litres

Fuel Consumption: 14.0L/100km (test average)

Suspension:

Front: double A-arms, coil springs, anti-roll bar

Rear: Multi-links, coil springs, anti-roll bar

Steering: Power rack and pinion

Turning circle: 11.0m (2.8 turns lock to lock)

Front Brakes: ventilated discs (355mm)

Rear Brakes: ventilated discs (328mm)

Tyres: Dunlop SP Sport 9000

Tyre Size: 245/35ZR19

 

Performance

 

Power to weight: 155kW/tonne

Speed at indicated 100km/h: 98

Speed in gears:

1) 62km/h @ 6000rpm

2) 111km/h @ 6000rpm

3) 172hm/h @ 6000rpm

4) 228km/h @ 6000rpm

5) 250hm/h @ 5100rpm*

6) 250hm/h @ 4000rpm*

Standing-start acceleration:

0-60km/h: 2.9sec

0-80km/h: 4.4sec

0-100km/h: 6.0sec

0-120km/h: 8.0sec

0-140km/h: 10.4sec

0-160km/h: 12.9sec

0-180km/h: -

0-400m: 14.1sec @ 168 km/h

Rolling acceleration: Drive

80-120km/h: 3.7sec

 

*Electronically limited

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guybrush Threepwood]

The Holden Commodore, for it's obvious ass-reaming in price. And for holding down a funky fresh orange interior. Orange is the new black.

[*gta star*]

In order of personal preference;

 

• S-Class
• Audi A8
• Jaguar XJ
• BMW 7 series
• Chrysler

[silvermanblue]

In order of personal preference;

• S-Class
• Audi A8
• Jaguar XJ
• BMW 7 series
• Chrysler

Don't fault the chrysler, its a pretty badass car in its own right. But I don't think it belongs in this lineup. The germans really did give Chrysler a swift kick in the ass. German enginering and american horsepower=pure sex!

[*gta star*]

Chrysler's are nice, don't get me wrong. Certainly got the whole 'beastly' look, I don't like the interior at all to be honest. My dad has drove one, no way as good as a Mercedes, or a BMW, the looks however are brilliant.

 

German cars ftw !

[stretch.]

I love the styling of the 300c, and that would sell it to me alone, however the build quality issues and the stigma that surround american cars would indeed put me off.

 

The Commodore and Typhoon are fairly similar looks wise, but the ultra low profile tires and ugly rims on the FPV makes me want to barf, the orange hue on the Holden is also much much much much much better than the ford.

 

Some peop;e call me vain for choosing a car on looks, but I can honestly say, why buy an ugly car? It'll take more to make an ugly car good looking, than it will to make a crap engine better.

 

So yer

 

Commodore SS for me.

[silvermanblue]

Ok guys, two of the cars in my lineup are not in production yet. So the numbers for their specifications may be off. Now the new muscle car showdown.

 

2008 Dodge Challenger

 

General specifications

Record last updated 01 / 12 / 2006

Country of origin United States

Produced in 2006

Introduced at 2006 NAIAS

Numbers built N/A (Prototype)

Body design N/A

Weight 1890 kilo / 4166.7 lbs

Drivetrain

Engine HEMI 90º V 8

Engine Location Front , longitudinally mounted

Displacement 6.059 liter / 369.7 cu in

Valvetrain 2 valves / cylinder, OHV

Fuel feed Fuel injection

Aspiration Naturally Aspirated

Gearbox 6 speed Manual

Drive Rear wheel drive

Performance figures

Power 425 bhp / 317 KW @ 6000 rpm

Torque 569 Nm / 420 ft lbs @ 4800 rpm

BHP/Liter 70 bhp / liter

Power to weight ratio 0.22 bhp / kg

Top Speed N/A

0-60 mph Acceleration N/A

 

Ford Mustang Shelby GT

 

General specifications

Record last updated 08 / 14 / 2006

Country of origin United States

Year of introduction 2007

Numbers built N/A

Body design N/A

Weight 1600 kilo / 3527.4 lbs

Drivetrain

Engine 90º V 8

Engine Location Front , longitudinally mounted

Displacement 4.601 liter / 280.8 cu in

Valvetrain 3 valves / cylinder, SOHC

Fuel feed Fuel injection

Aspiration Naturally Aspirated

Gearbox 5 speed Automatic

Drive Rear wheel drive

Performance figures

Power 325 bhp / 242 KW @ 5750 rpm

Torque 434 Nm / 320 ft lbs @ 4500 rpm

BHP/Liter 71 bhp / liter

Power to weight ratio 0.2 bhp / kg

Top Speed 230 km/h / 143 mph

0-60 mph Acceleration 5.2 s

 

Chevy Camaro Concept

 

General specifications

Record last updated 01 / 12 / 2006

Country of origin United States

Produced in 2006

Introduced at 2006 NAIAS

Numbers built N/A (Prototype)

Body design N/A

Weight N/A

Drivetrain

Engine LS2 90º V 8

Engine Location Front , longitudinally mounted

Displacement 5.970 liter / 364.3 cu in

Valvetrain 2 valves / cylinder, OHV

Fuel feed Fuel injection

Aspiration Naturally Aspirated

Gearbox Tremec T56 6 speed Manual

Drive Rear wheel drive

Performance figures

Power 400 bhp / 298 KW @ 6000 rpm

Torque 542 Nm / 400 ft lbs @ 4400 rpm

BHP/Liter 67 bhp / liter

Power to weight ratio N/A

Top Speed N/A

0-60 mph Acceleration N/A

 

I don't know, but I fell in love with the new mustang when it came out, Im getting one when I start truckdriving.

 

 

 

[XN22]

Without a doubt the Challenger.

[EvilPenguin]

I think the correct answer to that question is: Supercharged S2000.

 

Thank you and goodnight.

[Suction Testicle Man]

I'd take the Challenger in that line-up - I'd never be seen in a Camaro, and I hate the new Mustangs.

 

As for the previous vote, despite my hatred for the 300C's design, I think I'd have to take that over what to me looks like a Vauxhall Vectra with a sh*tty paintjob. I'm with stretch; basic design is very important when choosing a car, and I'd rather take something that looks classy over something with a huge f*ck off spoiler that Darren and Sharon would take the kids down to Cornwall in. Eugh.

[tuff_luv_capo]

Wow, is the shelby GT-500's 0-60 really a whole 5.2 seconds? I thought the normal mustang was faster than that.

[Guybrush Threepwood]

 

Wow, is the shelby GT-500's 0-60 really a whole 5.2 seconds? I thought the normal mustang was faster than that.

Some car sites report 4.5 seconds as the 0-60 time, I dunno what to make of it really.

If I had to pick one, I'd go for the Challenger, solely based on looks.

[SIP YEK NOD]

Wow, is the shelby GT-500's 0-60 really a whole 5.2 seconds? I thought the normal mustang was faster than that.

the shelby also has a 500hp 5.4l. that is just a regular mustang, and does the run to 60 in 5.0

 

 

as for the vs. if i see another new mustang, i am going to jam a screwdriver in my eye. the challenger looks like a restomod, nothing too special. i would take the camaro

[Attorney General]

Never been much of a Mustang guy, and I think the Camaro is hideous, so by sheer appearance alone, the Challenger smokes the other two...by a landslide.

[lurchseesu420]

I would have to go with the Challenger. My uncle had a 70 T/A with the 340 six-pack. so just for nostalgia purposes, I would have to go with the Challenger SRT-8. plus the Challenger (like all the recent RWD Chrlysler sedans) is stongly influenced by Mercedes-Benz. Plus it has a Hemi (actually has polyspheric combustion chambers but saying that "It has a Poly" just doesn't sound as cool).

[ATK]

I wouldn't pick any of these cars if I had the chance, but going by looks the camaro is pretty good.

[Guybrush Threepwood]

I wouldn't pick any of these cars if I had the chance, but going by looks the camaro is pretty good.

Well obviously most people wouldn't pick them. But the name of the game is to pick the one you would like the most

[-slash]

the Camaro, because they turn into big f*cking robots.

[Black-hawk]

Camaro, hands down. The 'stang comes close though.

[Kaj.]

The Camaro. Especially after seeing Transformers.

[Guybrush Threepwood]

 

The Camaro. Especially after seeing Transformers.

Hey, you know, it's highly likely the camaro's you get at the dealership don't transform into giant robots.

Just telling you in advance to save you the disappointment buddy

[Black-hawk]

The Camaro. Especially after seeing Transformers.

Hey, you know, it's highly likely the camaro's you get at the dealership don't transform into giant robots.

Just telling you in advance to save you the disappointment buddy

They transform into awesome.

[Guybrush Threepwood]

 

The Camaro. Especially after seeing Transformers.

Hey, you know, it's highly likely the camaro's you get at the dealership don't transform into giant robots.

Just telling you in advance to save you the disappointment buddy

They transform into awesome.

I was so excited by your replies, that I went out and bought one!

I was driving it home, and when I tried to drift, it spun out of control and crashed into the curb. My mom is so mad because I put the insurance on her to SAVE BIG BUXXXXXX!

The Camaro is not awesome

I'm just gonna go out and buy a Dodge Caliber.

[Cran.]

 

The Camaro. Especially after seeing Transformers.

Hey, you know, it's highly likely the camaro's you get at the dealership don't transform into giant robots.

Just telling you in advance to save you the disappointment buddy

They transform into awesome.

I was so excited by your replies, that I went out and bought one!

I was driving it home, and when I tried to drift, it spun out of control and crashed into the curb. My mom is so mad because I put the insurance on her to SAVE BIG BUXXXXXX!

The Camaro is not awesome

I'm just gonna go out and buy a Dodge Caliber.

Should have bought an older Camaro! Wouldn't have crashed then!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Black-hawk]

Oh I see what you did there.

 

 

 

Although you failed to understand my point in the previous thread : (

Edited July 13, 2007 by Black-hawk

[Guybrush Threepwood]

Oh I see what you did there.

 

 

 

Although you failed to understand my point in the previous thread : (

I ignored your point, and replaced it with my much better flawless logic.

Flawless logic ahoy!

[A.Fonz]

 

 

 

 

 

Price

$26,500 (AUD)

 

Drivetrain

 

Engine: inline 4, dohc, 16v

Layout: front engine (east-west), front drive

Capacity: 1.998 litres

Bore/stroke: 87.5/83.1mm

Compression: 10.0:1

Power: 104kw @ 6500rpm

Torque: 181Nm @ 4500rpm

Redline/Cut-out: 6500rpm/7100rpm

Transmission: 5-speed manual

km/h 1000rpm: 6.9/12.3/18.2/26.0/32.0

Gear ratios: 3.66/2.06/1.39/0.97/0.79

Diff ratio: 4.39

 

Chassis

 

Body: steel, 5 doors, 5 seats

L/W/H: 4405/1755/1465mm

Wheelbase: 2640mm

Front/rear track: 1530/1515mm

Weight: 1218kg

Boot capacity: 300 litres

Fuel/capacity: 91 octane/55 litres

Fuel Consumption: 9.6L/100km (test average)

Suspension:

Front: Struts, lower A-arms, coil springs, anti-roll bar

Rear: Multi-links, coil springs, anti-roll bar

Steering: Power rack and pinion

Turning circle: 10.4m (2.7 turns lock to lock)

Front Brakes: ventilated discs (278mm)

Rear Brakes: ventilated discs (265mm)

Tyres: Bridgestone Turanza ER30

Tyre Size: 205/55ZR16 89V

 

Performance

 

Power to weight: 85kW/tonne

Speed at indicated 100km/h: 95

Speed in gears:

1) 49km/h @ 7100rpm

2) 87km/h @ 7100rpm

3) 129km/h @ 7100rpm

4) 184km/h @ 7100rpm*

5) 208hm/h @ 6500rpm*

6) N/A

Standing-start acceleration:

0-60km/h: 4.0sec

0-80km/h: 5.9sec

0-100km/h: 8.6sec

0-120km/h: 11.6sec

0-140km/h: 15.9sec

0-160km/h: N/A

0-180km/h: N/A

0-400m: 16.2sec @ 141 km/h

Rolling acceleration: 3rd/4th/5th

80-120km/h: 5.7/8.2/10.7

 

*Estimated or manufacturer's claim

 

 

 

 

 

 

Price

$29,990 (AUD)

 

Drivetrain

 

Engine: inline 4, dohc, 16v

Layout: front engine (east-west), front drive

Capacity: 1.798 litres

Bore/stroke: 80.5/88.3mm

Compression: 10.0:1

Power: 100kw @ 6000rpm

Torque: 175Nm @ 4400rpm

Redline/Cut-out: 6400rpm/6600rpm

Transmission: 6-speed manual

km/h 1000rpm: 8.0/13.3/19.4/26.2/29.9/35.0

Gear ratios: 3.17/1.90/1.31/0.97/0.82/0.73

Diff ratio: 4.53

 

Chassis

 

Body: steel, 5 doors, 5 seats

L/W/H: 4220/1760/1515mm

Wheelbase: 2600mm

Front/rear track: 1525/1525mm

Weight: 1300kg

Boot capacity: 283 litres

Fuel/capacity: 91 octane/55 litres

Fuel Consumption: 10.0L/100km (test average)

Suspension:

Front: Struts, lower L-arms, coil springs, anti-roll bar

Rear: torsion beam, coil springs, anti-roll bar

Steering: Power rack and pinion

Turning circle: 10.4m (2.9 turns lock to lock)

Front Brakes: ventilated discs (275mm)

Rear Brakes: ventilated discs (259mm)

Tyres: Yokohama Advan A-460

Tyre Size: 205/55ZR16 91V

 

Performance

 

Power to weight: 77kW/tonne

Speed at indicated 100km/h: 98

Speed in gears:

1) 53km/h @ 6600rpm

2) 88km/h @ 6600rpm

3) 128km/h @ 6600rpm

4) 173km/h @ 6600rpm*

5) 197hm/h @ 6600rpm*

6) 200km/h @ 6700rpm*

Standing-start acceleration:

0-60km/h: 4.5sec

0-80km/h: 6.6sec

0-100km/h: 9.7sec

0-120km/h: 13.2sec

0-140km/h: 18.1sec

0-160km/h: N/A

0-180km/h: N/A

0-400m: 16.9sec @ 135 km/h

Rolling acceleration: 3rd/4th/5th/6th

80-120km/h: 6.6/8.6/11.0/13.0

 

*Estimated or manufacturer's claim

 

 

 

 

 

 

Price

$29,990 (AUD)

 

Drivetrain

 

Engine: inline 4, dohc, 16v

Layout: front engine (east-west), front drive

Capacity: 1.984 litres

Bore/stroke: 82.5/92.8mm

Compression: 11.5:1

Power: 110kw @ 6000rpm

Torque: 200Nm @ 3500rpm

Redline/Cut-out: 6500rpm/6950rpm

Transmission: 6-speed manual

km/h 1000rpm: 7.6/12.8/17.5/22.8/28.1/33.3

Gear ratios: 3.78/2.27/1.65/1.27/1.03/0.87

Diff ratio: 3.94

 

Chassis

 

Body: steel, 5 doors, 5 seats

L/W/H: 4204/1759/1479mm

Wheelbase: 2578mm

Front/rear track: 1540/1518mm

Weight: 1290kg

Boot capacity: 347 litres

Fuel/capacity: 98 octane/55 litres

Fuel Consumption: 10.6L/100km (test average)

Suspension:

Front: Struts, lower A-arms, coil springs, anti-roll bar

Rear: multi-links, coil springs, anti-roll bar

Steering: Power rack and pinion

Turning circle: 10.9m (2.9 turns lock to lock)

Front Brakes: ventilated discs (280mm)

Rear Brakes: ventilated discs (255mm)

Tyres: Goodyear Eagle NCT5

Tyre Size: 195/55R15 91V

 

Performance

 

Power to weight: 85kW/tonne

Speed at indicated 100km/h: 94

Speed in gears:

1) 53km/h @ 6950rpm

2) 89km/h @ 6950rpm

3) 122km/h @ 6950rpm

4) 158km/h @ 6950rpm*

5) 195hm/h @ 6950rpm*

6) 210km/h @ 6300rpm*

Standing-start acceleration:

0-60km/h: 4.2sec

0-80km/h: 6.2sec

0-100km/h: 9.0sec

0-120km/h: 12.0sec

0-140km/h: 16.1sec

0-160km/h: N/A

0-180km/h: N/A

0-400m: 16.4sec @ 141 km/h

Rolling acceleration: 3rd/4th/5th/6th

80-120km/h: 5.7/6.8/8.2/10.0

 

*Estimated or manufacturer's claim

 

Sorry for the crap pictures, they were the easiest to find.

[SIP YEK NOD]

being that evenly matched spec wise, i would go for the mazda for the price and look.

[tuff_luv_capo]

Can't stand mazda's anymore unless they begin with RX or Mazaspeed. I'll take the GTI.