knocker Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 One word for you...Hackintosh. Also called OSX86 You get all the "PC"-s possibilities with Mac OS X (x86) installed...because who said you CAN'T run OSX on a "PC"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remember This. Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 (edited) Hmm... I can't be arsed to go into as much detail as some of you. Suffice to say, I used to have a PC, now I have a Macbook. My PC could play GTA and Manhunt, which are the only games I play on PC. My MacBook can't, but it can do everything else better. I find it much better for media stuff (in particular art), it has better bundled software, less threat of viruses, not nearly as ugly as a PC, and its just generally nicer to use and much more reliable. Oh and you don't have to suffer Vista if you have a Mac, a reason for buying it alone. The only problem with having a Mac, aside from the lack of games (although I wouldn't play games on a laptop anyway and I still have my PC for that reason alone) is that when you have a Mac people instinctively think you are a bit of a tw*t. Its all to do with the snobs of computing not shutting up about their glorious Macs. Ah well, I can live with that. @Matthew1g, you seem to have took the specs of one iMac, not the best Mac out there, and compared it to everything a PC can possibly have. Thats like comparing a single hamster to the entire big cat species. Not very fair I don't think. Edited June 21, 2007 by Remember This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingvercetti Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 Oh and you don't have to suffer Vista if you have a Mac, a reason for buying it alone. You don't have to "suffer" Vista if you use a PC either. Personally, I prefer PC's. Mostly because I've never used a Mac in my life, and I don't intend to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnie Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 Don't you have to pay to upgrade OSX Like every year or something. And nobody has to suffer Vista. In fact some of us don't even have to suffer Windows (Don't get me wrong, I think that 2000/XP are brilliant OS's in all honesty). But I only use Windows for gaming nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesfleanut Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 *snip* I usually respect your opinion but you've got a few things wrong here. I'll list them off: Bootcamp does run xp/vista at native speed. So PC to mac, same specs = same speed. http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/ You can install many different OS's besides OS X/XP/Vista, ubuntu for example. You're not limited to 1 OS. Apples tower desktops are very upgradable, including many sound/storage/display/ram/video card options. You can't pit an imac against all tower PC'S, it's unfair. Find an all in one unit by a PC maker and compare that. I agree about the GUI... You can't choose an OS based only on GUI, which is why I choose OS X. UNIX based and it lets you see under the hood a lot more than windows ever will. You are kidding about nobody living at high altitude or taking a computer on an airplane, right? Also, when comparing mac to pc, you have to leave out all midrange tower products, because mac doesn't even put out products in that market. They do laptops high/mid end, all in one low/mid end, and high end desktop workstations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper. Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 Ive only used a PC. So I don't really know much about Mac. But Ive been wanting to get a Mac for my next computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellsMcK Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 mac. i have a windows computer and hate it because its slow. if microsoft is so great why would they let windows on emachines? worst pc in the world. with mac i think you get more bang for your buck. And for people who hate apple dont forget who invented and started the computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnie Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 mac. i have a windows computer and hate it because its slow. if microsoft is so great why would they let windows on emachines? worst pc in the world. with mac i think you get more bang for your buck. And for people who hate apple dont forget who invented and started the computer. It's only slow because: Your system isn't good enough. (Ie You Need More Memory Etc) Your system is full of spyware. Your drive is fragmented You may need to reinstall Windows. Oh I'd like to point out, I don't hate Apple. & Wasn't the Xerox Alto the first proper desktop computer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaper x550 Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 PC I got told by the school teachers that "Macs are the industry standard for Photoshoping" When ever i go on them i apply a few filters here and there, do some other things and they crash, stop dead in their tracks and wont do a thing On my PC, photoshop has never crashed, never had any issue and i never get virus's As far as people saying Mac's dont get virus's, HA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otter Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 Macs are industry standard for design work, but solely because of their reliability when populating an entire office. Can OSX be run on any PC? At native speed? What does one need to make this happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trows Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 When ever i go on them i apply a few filters here and there, do some other things and they crash, stop dead in their tracks and wont do a thing I've worked with huge photoshop files on Macs, and they've run fine without crashing. No dough this post will get questions and and maybe even some fighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cran. Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 @ The Truth. - A Mac never was a PC, still isn't and sure as hell it won't be; who told you that? they represent two different types of systems/machines that may have many thing in common (today), but they also have a lot of differences. A pc is much better than a mac, and also more affordable, knowing the fact that when you buy a new mac, you also buy the operating system. When you buy a pc is just that, no os' attached by force to it (so use linux ). *in conclusion: pc rulzz, mac sux PC = Personal Computer. DUN DUN DUN! Macs and 'PCs' are both PCs. Me? I prefer Windows based PCs. Never really crashes, but it does have it's problems. But macs, I dunno.. I just don't really like the interface and feel after all this time with a Windows based PC. And I hate the hell out of Vista. I tried to fit a problem for a friend who's wireless card suddenly refused to stop working. Needless to say, I wanted to ditch the laptop into a wall after I couldn't fathom the bloody thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesfleanut Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 Can OSX be run on any PC? At native speed? What does one need to make this happen? There's emulators, but they're all horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waste Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 You get all the "PC"-s possibilities with Mac OS X (x86) installed...because who said you CAN'T run OSX on a "PC"? Apple. @Otter: You have to have a processor that supports SSE2 or above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitza_003 Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 You get all the "PC"-s possibilities with Mac OS X (x86) installed...because who said you CAN'T run OSX on a "PC"? Apple. @Otter: You have to have a processor that supports SSE2 or above. Maybe apple said that, but the facts clearly show the capabilities of running Mac OS X on a PC. The only thing that really matters is the type of the processor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesfleanut Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 The only thing that really matters is the type of the processor. Also the hardware matters, in this case it has to be apple hardware to run a native speed/fully functional OS X. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzy Fozborne Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 The instant Apple comes out with an operating system that will run all (!) my software, games, printer, and MP3 player on my current machine, I will switch over. Until then, I'm more than happy with my XP machine. Same goes for Vista Premium. To be honest, I think at this stage that Mac is more compatible with more devices and software than the pathetic Vista. If Microsoft doesn't get its act together, they could start losing customers. One thing that ticks me off at MS is that they changed EVERYTHING in Vista! The control panel is completely different, it's so hard to find things and buttons that were previously easy to find and open are replaced by new settings hidden deep in the control panel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew1g Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 One thing that ticks me off at MS is that they changed EVERYTHING in Vista! The control panel is completely different, it's so hard to find things and buttons that were previously easy to find and open are replaced by new settings hidden deep in the control panel. That's one reason I haven't switched to vista YET. It doesn't even support full screen DOS, and they've changed loads of names of settings trying to make it more user frinedly. Xp was friendly enough. They should've kept it that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_-playero-_ Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 I have the feeling he was busted for being an idiot. It's not fair.... Anyways, f*cking worried about viruses? Get a PC, get linux... done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercie Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 (edited) One thing PC users can do that Mac users can't: Read here. It's so freaking true. After all, who started this topic? Its funny... I never thought I would find anyone I agree with 100% on every goddamn topic, but alas, there is one. Most iPod commercials feature guys with long hair, chicks roller skating, and guys wearing fedoras. I have dandruff, and I buy most of my jeans from a grocery store. I feel like in order to have a Mac, I need to be: -An artist. -In a band. -Unemployed (see above). I know what Windows can do that a Mac cannot... But what can a Mac do that Windows cannot short of piss you off with a pile of updates? Edited June 24, 2007 by Mercie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otter Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 f*ck a mac. Mercie's right. The only thing I can think of that a Mac can do over a PC is cost you thousands of dollars for repairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primer43 Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 (edited) The instant Apple comes out with an operating system that will run all (!) my software, games, printer, and MP3 player on my current machine, I will switch over. Until then, I'm more than happy with my XP machine. Same goes for Vista Premium. To be honest, I think at this stage that Mac is more compatible with more devices and software than the pathetic Vista. If Microsoft doesn't get its act together, they could start losing customers. One thing that ticks me off at MS is that they changed EVERYTHING in Vista! The control panel is completely different, it's so hard to find things and buttons that were previously easy to find and open are replaced by new settings hidden deep in the control panel. Vista may be pathetic but I have had no compatibility issues, except X Fi EAX. Everything runs great. No perfomance issues. And I highly doubt Microsoft will be losing any customers, most of their customers are dumb as bricks. Back on topic: My friend made it, I thought it was funny. Edited June 25, 2007 by Primer43 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knocker Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 The only thing that really matters is the type of the processor. Also the hardware matters, in this case it has to be apple hardware to run a native speed/fully functional OS X. osx86project.org Native. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delerious Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 Whoever says Macs are superior, is a traitor I've always viewed Macs as kid's toys because they're colourful and useless. Check out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesfleanut Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 The only thing that really matters is the type of the processor. Also the hardware matters, in this case it has to be apple hardware to run a native speed/fully functional OS X. osx86project.org Native. Good luck installing it on your computer successfully. I've tried on 3-4, and there's always an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knocker Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 Worked for me...on a pretty old 2.4ghz P4 Northwood with 384 megs of ram. And a Geforce 4 MX440. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DexX Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 I've never understood the appeal of the mac. Everything i want to do, thats possible on mac, is also possible, if not better, on a pc. Even the supposed "creative" software, and the much touted Adobe line of products, are cross platform for the most part. it's more stable? don't give me that. i can, and infact have, crashed a mac just as easily as a pc. It's certainly doesn't have a better Ui. i had to use mac's in my college, and whenever i right clicked on a file, any file, there would be nutjob options, like "Print". I'd like to know how to "print" a zip file. it sounds hard. Or renaming a file - windows has the advantage here. right click->rename. that's about as intuitive as possible. But what annoyed me the most, was the dipsh*t trash system. First of all, clicking "Delete" on the keyboard didn't do a damn thing, as would be expected. all files i wanted deleted, had to be done either by drag and drop, or context menus. stupid. Then, and this is the real kicker, i decide to delete some files off my flashdrive, you know, to make space. what does the mac do? it creates a new folder on my flashdrive called ".Trash", and moves the files to be deleted, into the new folder. The first time i figured this out, i just stared at the monitor for a good 5 minutes, wanting to punch the machine and nitwits who designed it. Crapple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primer43 Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 Then, and this is the real kicker, i decide to delete some files off my flashdrive, you know, to make space. what does the mac do? it creates a new folder on my flashdrive called ".Trash", and moves the files to be deleted, into the new folder. Hahaha, thats great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesfleanut Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 Hmm, I don't seem to have that problem. Are we talking about a really old version of MacOS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saggy Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 Hmm, I don't seem to have that problem. Are we talking about a really old version of MacOS? Yeah, I remember those little annoyances being a part of OS 8 or 9. Whatever was on those colorful little iMacs they released in like 98-00. Our school had a ton of those; they were terrible however, crashed quite frequently. I'm sure that if they didn't have some proprietary limitation software running on them they would've ran better, but it was a pretty lame experience otherwise. QUOTE (K^2) ...not only is it legal for you to go around with a concealed penis, it requires absolutely no registration! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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