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Teqila

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K^2
Because there is no real reason for anyone to defend guns so fanatically confused.gif

There is. I agree that some people are overexcited about the guns themselves, but guns are important for a society. Government will always have guns. Criminals will always have guns. Society is much more stable if the private citizens own and know how to use guns.

 

Consider this, does banning guns reduce number of guns owned by criminals? All statistics and common sense say no. So why does government want to ban them? They don't want private citizens having weapons. Now think about why, and keep in mind that there wasn't a single government in the history of man kind that did not want more control.

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Because there is no real reason for anyone to defend guns so fanatically confused.gif

There is. I agree that some people are overexcited about the guns themselves, but guns are important for a society. Government will always have guns. Criminals will always have guns. Society is much more stable if the private citizens own and know how to use guns.

 

Consider this, does banning guns reduce number of guns owned by criminals? All statistics and common sense say no. So why does government want to ban them? They don't want private citizens having weapons. Now think about why, and keep in mind that there wasn't a single government in the history of man kind that did not want more control.

'twas a wonderful time when Americans were ENCOURAGED to enjoy their right of bearing arms.

 

Also:

 

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K^2
'twas a wonderful time when Americans were ENCOURAGED to enjoy their right of bearing arms.

Founding of United States was an extremely unique situation, but even something built so well will eventually decay to a normal state of the government if people don't defend their rights.

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Leftcoast

 

Founding of United States was an extremely unique situation, but even something built so well will eventually decay to a normal state of the government if people don't defend their rights.

 

I think we need to be doing a better job of protecting our rights as it is.

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Teqila
What is people's fascination with guns even? i'm starting to believe the whole "bigger dick" thing may be true confused.gif

What is it with anti-gun people's fascination with our penis size? Nobody said anything about penis or even manhood for that matter, but then you go and bring it up. Why, it's almost as if you're feeling inadequate over your fear of inanimate objects, and wish to project this onto us in the form of a straw man.

Because there is no real reason for anyone to defend guns so fanatically confused.gif

You wouldn't understand the importance of something you don't have. He's not defending inanimate objects, he's defending a American human right.

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PANDAEMON

hmm.... well you could just give eyeryone in the us[and the world since the rest of us need to be careful in such a case] guns and train us in weapon combat and that would solve the problem of self defence, but think ofthe cost.

 

as for that picture of the girl advocating the right to have guns, wtf, is that an ak47 shes holding?! good greif, i understand if ye want guns, but why do ye need THAT?!!!

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K^2
as for that picture of the girl advocating the right to have guns, wtf, is that an ak47 shes holding?! good greif, i understand if ye want guns, but why do ye need THAT?!!!

Considering the fact that it is most likely a semi-auto variant, seeing how full auto is illegal in US, the benefits are limited to being able to take better aim from distance, being able to fire through walls and car doors, and penetrate pretty much any armor one might wear.

 

But there is a good argument for allowing full auto as well. Criminals can acquire full auto weapons, as they do make it to the US via black markets. And if someone happens to attack you using a full automatic rifle, unless that someone doesn't know what he's doing, you'd have little chance of defending yourself using a hand gun.

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Because there is no real reason for anyone to defend guns so fanatically confused.gif

No good reason? Here's millions of good reasons.

 

In 1929 the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, approximately 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

 

In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915-1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

 

Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, 13 million Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, the mentally ill, and others, who were unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

 

China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

 

Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

 

Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

 

Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million "educated" people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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desert_eagle

I believe in individual freedom and responsibility, it's no different when it comes to owning guns. Irresponsible people should be kept away from guns as much as possible, but I see no reason to deny civilians the right to own weapons...

 

On top of that I enjoy shooting and am very interested in anything to do with firearms. Why would anyone want to take that away from me?

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as for that picture of the girl advocating the right to have guns, wtf, is that an ak47 shes holding?! good greif, i understand if ye want guns, but why do ye need THAT?!!!

 

Yes, thats an AK.

 

I can't say whether it's full or semi auto.

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desert_eagle
hmm.... well you could just give eyeryone in the us[and the world since the rest of us need to be careful in such a case] guns and train us in weapon combat and that would solve the problem of self defence, but think ofthe cost.

 

as for that picture of the girl advocating the right to have guns, wtf, is that an ak47 shes holding?! good greif, i understand if ye want guns, but why do ye need THAT?!!!

I understand if you like music, but why do you need to listen to that heavy metal crap?!

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Ph3L1z14n0

CONTROL, responsible control is necessary for gun owning, there is no place in the US for an AK-47, it serves NO PURPOSE, it's lousy for hunting, and you're not gonna carry it around to defend yourself, are you confused.gif ???

 

And once again, yes i f*cking do bring back the dick size issue, for those of you who drool to have an AK, get a f*cking pump if it's so much trouble dozingoff.gif

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CONTROL, responsible control is necessary for gun owning, there is no place in the US for an AK-47, it serves NO PURPOSE, it's lousy for hunting, and you're not gonna carry it around to defend yourself, are you  ???

 

And once again, yes i f*cking do bring back the dick size issue, for those of you who drool to have an AK, get a f*cking pump if it's so much trouble

 

There is no reason for most of the guns that are legal to by. So what if you buy an AK 47. If you buy it legaly today, it won't be fully automatic. There are plenty of semi auto rifles out there that no one is complaining about, and that's all an AK is without full auto. The reason people are so up in arms about guns like AK's is the image they portray. I bet most of the population would have the AK banned completely if they could, but none of them even know what a mini 30 is even though it takes the same round and has comperable rate of fire.

 

 

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CONTROL, responsible control is necessary for gun owning, there is no place in the US for an AK-47, it serves NO PURPOSE, it's lousy for hunting, and you're not gonna carry it around to defend yourself, are you confused.gif ???

 

And once again, yes i f*cking do bring back the dick size issue, for those of you who drool to have an AK, get a f*cking pump if it's so much trouble dozingoff.gif

What's your problem? An AK looks too scary? Civilian versions do the same thing as any other semi automatic rifle, hell, the thing's sixty years old! I own an AK type rifle because it's fun and cheap, but why should I even have to justify myself to you? I'm not hurting anyone...

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K^2
CONTROL, responsible control is necessary for gun owning, there is no place in the US for an AK-47, it serves NO PURPOSE, it's lousy for hunting, and you're not gonna carry it around to defend yourself, are you confused.gif ???

 

And once again, yes i f*cking do bring back the dick size issue, for those of you who drool to have an AK, get a f*cking pump if it's so much trouble dozingoff.gif

You've never even held a gun in your hands in your entire life, have you?

 

An AK-47 has its place as a defensive weapon. If you do not know first hand what is the difference between firing various weapons, you are unlikely to understand. Go to a gun range, fire a few rounds, and then come back to have a serious discussion.

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CONTROL, responsible control is necessary for gun owning, there is no place in the US for an AK-47, it serves NO PURPOSE, it's lousy for hunting, and you're not gonna carry it around to defend yourself, are you confused.gif ???

 

And once again, yes i f*cking do bring back the dick size issue, for those of you who drool to have an AK, get a f*cking pump if it's so much trouble dozingoff.gif

During the 1992 LA Riots, there were a number of people camped out on the roofs of their business and homes with AK-47 clones and such, defending themselves and their families while the police were unable/unwilling to enter the area. Want to guess which shops weren't looted and burned to the ground? Want to guess which people weren't dragged into the street and beaten to death by the mobs? Want to guess which people didn't watch as their daughters were dragged from their homes and raped? rolleyes.gif

 

And, umm, the AK is just fine for hunting. 7.62x39mm is almost identical ballistically to the .30-30 Winchester..

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Teqila

Everytime you post something, someone comes back with something better. Why are you trying? It's "guns r bad children" vs. "People should be able to have firearms because.." Which do you think has more meaning?

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Everytime you post something, someone comes back with something better. Why are you trying? It's "guns r bad children" vs. "People should be able to have firearms because.." Which do you think has more meaning?

Freedom of Choice, Freedom of Expression, Right to Bear Arms. The basic right to defend yourself, your property and your loved ones.

 

Not to mention the fact that IF guns were made illegal, the only people it would hurt are those who are law abiding citizens when the criminals WITH guns come into our homes and we can't defend ourselves. Guns are one of those things that when they were invented, it permanently opened the door for society to have them.

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Not to mention the fact that IF guns were made illegal, the only people it would hurt are those who are law abiding citizens when the criminals WITH guns come into our homes and we can't defend ourselves. Guns are one of those things that when they were invented, it permanently opened the door for society to have them.

 

Don't forget, idiots can still get guns. I would like gun control that covers this, but that is hard to do. For the most part, it would hurt the law abiding citizens.

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Ph3L1z14n0
You've never even held a gun in your hands in your entire life, have you?

I don't see the point and i have held guns, and i don't see what the big deal is with having a more high powered rifle, what is really lame and pathetic about gun owners is that they always want an AK, why not other more efficient gun, like an M16 for example? or a shotgun if you want to defend yourself, there is a LOT more of efficient guns out there than the AK, the AK47 is a very good rifle FOR WAR, i can only assume that people's only fascination with guns is because they make them think that having an AK "makes them cool" confused.gif

 

Some kind of control is necessary, why? because if a legal gun merchant finds himself in a tight situation and starts selling weapons on the black market, then you will have to worry about the robber with military rifles robbing the grocery store next to your pad.

 

I DO believe in people's right, i gotta say all arguments here are valid, everyone has the right to do and own whatever the f*ck they want, but we need to yield sometimes, why? because we need to be responsible, NOT EVERYONE is either mature or generous enough to buy a gun only to shoot at inanimate objects, SPECIALLY in a country where guns are over-glorified.

 

I say this proudly because in this good forum no dumbass has come yet saying "SHUT UP, the DEAGLE IS THE ROXXRZZZZ!!!!!"

 

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I don't see the point and i have held guns, and i don't see what the big deal is with having a more high powered rifle, what is really lame and pathetic about gun owners is that they always want an AK, why not other more efficient gun, like an M16 for example? or a shotgun if you want to defend yourself, there is a LOT more of efficient guns out there than the AK, the AK47 is a very good rifle FOR WAR, i can only assume that people's only fascination with guns is because they make them think that having an AK "makes them cool" confused.gif

And once more your lack of understanding is only surpassed by your eagerness to overgeneralize. AK is a great rifle. It is sufficiently powerful, efficient, relatively easy to maintain, durable, and reliable. Yes, there are other rifles that can do all these things, but AK is also more affordable. That is why a lot of people chose an AK. Not because it makes them "cool".

 

And we already see people robbing stores with illegal full auto rifles. And you know what? People cannot defend themselves against something like that. And not even police will help you, because they cannot do much against a full auto rifle either. Most often, you have to wait for SWAT team to arrive. And how many people need to get gunned down before that happens? While if you allowed the clerk at the store to keep his own automatic rifle behind the counter, you wouldn't have a problem to begin with.

 

As for your argument on merchants selling full auto rifles, it is a bullsh*t argument to begin with. Any semi-automatic pistol/rifle can be converted to full auto. Criminals have no problems obtaining full auto SMGs and rifles. It is the law abiding citizens that get the short end of the stick with any kind of an arms ban.

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Ph3L1z14n0
I don't see the point and i have held guns, and i don't see what the big deal is with having a more high powered rifle, what is really lame and pathetic about gun owners is that they always want an AK, why not other more efficient gun, like an M16 for example? or a shotgun if you want to defend yourself, there is a LOT more of efficient guns out there than the AK, the AK47 is a very good rifle FOR WAR, i can only assume that people's only fascination with guns is because they make them think that having an AK "makes them cool" confused.gif

And once more your lack of understanding is only surpassed by your eagerness to overgeneralize. AK is a great rifle. It is sufficiently powerful, efficient, relatively easy to maintain, durable, and reliable. Yes, there are other rifles that can do all these things, but AK is also more affordable. That is why a lot of people chose an AK. Not because it makes them "cool".

 

And we already see people robbing stores with illegal full auto rifles. And you know what? People cannot defend themselves against something like that. And not even police will help you, because they cannot do much against a full auto rifle either. Most often, you have to wait for SWAT team to arrive. And how many people need to get gunned down before that happens? While if you allowed the clerk at the store to keep his own automatic rifle behind the counter, you wouldn't have a problem to begin with.

 

As for your argument on merchants selling full auto rifles, it is a bullsh*t argument to begin with. Any semi-automatic pistol/rifle can be converted to full auto. Criminals have no problems obtaining full auto SMGs and rifles. It is the law abiding citizens that get the short end of the stick with any kind of an arms ban.

it is not BAN, it's CONTROL, what part do you not understand confused.gif ???

 

Of course that people have the right to defend themselves with any weapon, but many legal arms dealers tell you that a shotgun is one of the best weapons to defend yourself, why? the shot spreads which compensates for inaccuracy, which is the case for the common law abiding citizen, with an AK you WOULD need to be a crackshot bored.gif

 

And to my last argument about merchants, really, why not? what stops them? specially in the US, where guns are placed on f*cking pedestals bored.gif

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Teqila

 

I don't see the point and i have held guns, and i don't see what the big deal is with having a more high powered rifle, what is really lame and pathetic about gun owners is that they always want an AK, why not other more efficient gun, like an M16 for example? or a shotgun if you want to defend yourself, there is a LOT more of efficient guns out there than the AK, the AK47 is a very good rifle FOR WAR, i can only assume that people's only fascination with guns is because they make them think that having an AK "makes them cool" confused.gif

And once more your lack of understanding is only surpassed by your eagerness to overgeneralize. AK is a great rifle. It is sufficiently powerful, efficient, relatively easy to maintain, durable, and reliable. Yes, there are other rifles that can do all these things, but AK is also more affordable. That is why a lot of people chose an AK. Not because it makes them "cool".

 

And we already see people robbing stores with illegal full auto rifles. And you know what? People cannot defend themselves against something like that. And not even police will help you, because they cannot do much against a full auto rifle either. Most often, you have to wait for SWAT team to arrive. And how many people need to get gunned down before that happens? While if you allowed the clerk at the store to keep his own automatic rifle behind the counter, you wouldn't have a problem to begin with.

 

As for your argument on merchants selling full auto rifles, it is a bullsh*t argument to begin with. Any semi-automatic pistol/rifle can be converted to full auto. Criminals have no problems obtaining full auto SMGs and rifles. It is the law abiding citizens that get the short end of the stick with any kind of an arms ban.

it is not BAN, it's CONTROL, what part do you not understand confused.gif ???

 

Of course that people have the right to defend themselves with any weapon, but many legal arms dealers tell you that a shotgun is one of the best weapons to defend yourself, why? the shot spreads which compensates for inaccuracy, which is the case for the common law abiding citizen, with an AK you WOULD need to be a crackshot bored.gif

 

And to my last argument about merchants, really, why not? what stops them? specially in the US, where guns are placed on f*cking pedestals bored.gif

Shot spreads less than 20cm at in-house ranges, hardly compensating for poor acuracy. Stores in the US don't have "illegal full-auto rfifles" get you rfacts rightt or stick to "guns r bad".

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illspirit

 

I don't see the point and i have held guns,

Because you say silly things like this:

 

 

and i don't see what the big deal is with having a more high powered rifle, what is really lame and pathetic about gun owners is that they always want an AK, why not other more efficient gun, like an M16 for example? or a shotgun if you want to defend yourself, there is a LOT more of efficient guns out there than the AK, the AK47 is a very good rifle FOR WAR, i can only assume that people's only fascination with guns is because they make them think that having an AK "makes them cool" confused.gif

First, the AK isn't a high powered rifle. With the exception of the FN FAL, G3, and a handful of others, every combat rifle designed since the mid to late 1940's has been intermediate powered. Meaning they're more powerful than a pistol, but less powerful than other types of rifle.

 

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The two large cartridges on the left are used in typical hunting rifles. The one in the middle (7.62) is used by the AK-47 and the one to the right of that (5.56) is used by the M16.

 

Second, the AK is one of the most efficient rifles ever invented! As K^2 said, it's the champion of cost efficiency. In the maintenance department, you'll spend far less time cleaning or fixing an AK than you would another rifle. Assuming you ever bother to clean it, just wipe it down with a rag and some motor oil. You can bury the damn thing in a swamp for a year, dig it up, kick it to dislodge the chunks of dirt, and it's good to go.

 

The reason for this is that it has relatively few moving parts, which are all built like a tank. This provides an efficient use of energy within the rifle, which in turn helps afford such legendary reliability. The weight distribution of said tank-like parts also helps manage the recoil.

 

Yes, it is a good rifle "FOR WAR." But these things that make it so also make attractive for civil use. Jeeps are good "FOR WAR" too, but their durability and ability to go over any terrain has also made them popular with civilians.

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Ph3L1z14n0
Shot spreads less than 20cm at in-house ranges, hardly compensating for poor acuracy. Stores in the US don't have "illegal full-auto rfifles" get you rfacts rightt or stick to "guns r bad".

Is it easier to hit a target with a rifle than a shotgun? NO, simple question, simple answer.

 

What about the reloading sound the shotgun makes? it's a trademark sound, if a robber who was trying to steal your TV hears it, most likely he will get the f*ck out of your housen because he knows he' getting the 12 gauge!!!

 

And i never said stores had "illegal full auto rifles", no weapon is illegal, the merchandizing of a weapon that is not contemplated within the law is what makes it illegal, and if it is as K^2 said, that it is easy to change a gun's rate of fire, then i ask you what stops any arms retailer from "going rogue"

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During the 1992 LA Riots, there were a number of people camped out on the roofs of their business and homes with AK-47 clones and such, defending themselves and their families while the police were unable/unwilling to enter the area. Want to guess which shops weren't looted and burned to the ground? Want to guess which people weren't dragged into the street and beaten to death by the mobs? Want to guess which people didn't watch as their daughters were dragged from their homes and raped? rolleyes.gif

So your basis for holding a firearm is fear? I think someone is a little hypocritical. Everything you do, the surroundings you're in and the people you're with can all contribute to your death. Violence is just a small part. If you're going to great, risky lengths to rid a violent attack upon you (which is a rare occourrence itself, let alone a genocide and civil unrest), why not go further and cover everything overall? Don't drive, don't drink, don't smoke, don't have sex, don't eat meat, don't consume fatty and sweet foods, don't travel, don't play sport, don't use public transport, don't interact with people. Afterall, you could die from either one of those. So why don't they get a mention?

 

It's the people like you who create fear in this world. Just like how 'terrorism' is potrayed in the media, you exaggerate.

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I don't see the point and i have held guns, and i don't see what the big deal is with having a more high powered rifle, what is really lame and pathetic about gun owners is that they always want an AK, why not other more efficient gun, like an M16 for example?

 

The M16 is an outdated piece of crap. The AK is timeless, that and you know it will fire when you pull the trigger, this is not always the case with the M16. Don't get it dirty, clean it before you eat, don't drop it and make sure to stick a condom on the barrel for good measure.

 

 

Is it easier to hit a target with a rifle than a shotgun? NO, simple question, simple answer.

 

What about the reloading sound the shotgun makes? it's a trademark sound, if a robber who was trying to steal your TV hears it, most likely he will get the f*ck out of your housen because he knows he' getting the 12 gauge!!!

 

Yes, you are correct. Shotguns do have the amazing ability to "Shrink Balls" when people hear them load a round. No one is denying you that, they are simply showing the self defense of an AK, whether it's semi or full auto.

 

As far as waiting for the SWAT team, many police departments in California now have M4 riffles in their squad cars so they can't easily be outguned. We have the North Hollywood shootout to thank for that. So, where I live, it wouldn't have to wait for swat for more fire power.

 

 

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I would say what anuj said in the begining of the topic. Guns are bad, Humans are worse. If you think, guns don't kill anybody, humans kill everybody, because a gun is a unliving been, it doesn't move, it doesn't has it's own life. So yeah, only humans can kill humans with guns.

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During the 1992 LA Riots, there were a number of people camped out on the roofs of their business and homes with AK-47 clones and such, defending themselves and their families while the police were unable/unwilling to enter the area. Want to guess which shops weren't looted and burned to the ground? Want to guess which people weren't dragged into the street and beaten to death by the mobs? Want to guess which people didn't watch as their daughters were dragged from their homes and raped? rolleyes.gif

So your basis for holding a firearm is fear? I think someone is a little hypocritical. Everything you do, the surroundings you're in and the people you're with can all contribute to your death. Violence is just a small part. If you're going to great, risky lengths to rid a violent attack upon you (which is a rare occourrence itself, let alone a genocide and civil unrest), why not go further and cover everything overall? Don't drive, don't drink, don't smoke, don't have sex, don't eat meat, don't consume fatty and sweet foods, don't travel, don't play sport, don't use public transport, don't interact with people. Afterall, you could die from either one of those. So why don't they get a mention?

 

It's the people like you who create fear in this world. Just like how 'terrorism' is potrayed in the media, you exaggerate.

Those analogies were weak. YOU are forgetting to mention that in almost ALL of those cases there are alternatives. Cars have safety equipment, you don't HAVE to eat fattening foods, you don't HAVE to drink alcoholic beverages, you don't HAVE to smoke.

 

But you failed to mention that when someone with a gun enters your house and is standing between you and your children WITH a gun, you don't have a choice.

 

But I guess through your logic, you don't HAVE to defend yourself, your kids or your property. You can just lock yourself in your room or climb out the window, avoiding conflict in its entirety. confused.gif

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jelly

 

During the 1992 LA Riots, there were a number of people camped out on the roofs of their business and homes with AK-47 clones and such, defending themselves and their families while the police were unable/unwilling to enter the area. Want to guess which shops weren't looted and burned to the ground? Want to guess which people weren't dragged into the street and beaten to death by the mobs? Want to guess which people didn't watch as their daughters were dragged from their homes and raped? rolleyes.gif

So your basis for holding a firearm is fear? I think someone is a little hypocritical. Everything you do, the surroundings you're in and the people you're with can all contribute to your death. Violence is just a small part. If you're going to great, risky lengths to rid a violent attack upon you (which is a rare occourrence itself, let alone a genocide and civil unrest), why not go further and cover everything overall? Don't drive, don't drink, don't smoke, don't have sex, don't eat meat, don't consume fatty and sweet foods, don't travel, don't play sport, don't use public transport, don't interact with people. Afterall, you could die from either one of those. So why don't they get a mention?

 

It's the people like you who create fear in this world. Just like how 'terrorism' is potrayed in the media, you exaggerate.

Guns are not carried because people are afraid. Guns are carried to enable people to not be afraid. The gun is the equaliser, it removes force from the equation. If an assailant is armed and the victim is not, and he can know with some certainty that the victim isn't armed (read Chicago, NYC, Los Angeles, D.C.. the most violent cities in America, also the cities with most handgun restrictions, the perp knows that only he and other lawbreakers carry weapons, along with the sparse police force), he can roam free. When the predators of society know that their victims may be armed lawfully, they will hesitate. They will not hesitate because someone may or may not call the police, or if the police may or may not be there in twenty minutes.

 

When CCW laws began to pick up momentum around America, those states that passed shall-issue CCW laws saw a decrease in crime. Since D.C. passed the handgun ban in the 70's, violent crime has gone consistently upwards. Vermont, one of two states in the Union to not license concealed weapons holders (that is, Vermont has no laws at all on the carrying of firearms), is the second most safe state in the Union.

 

Unlike all the stuff you mentioned with various impractical remedies, the problem of violent crime is easily solved. Not everyone needs to carry -- but the possibility of legal carry needs to be there. The perp knows that the unassuming lady with the groceries bags and the soccer mom SUV may or may not be packing heat, and she is trained and licensed to use it. Carrying a gun is not a 'great, risky length' - it is a natural thing and one of the most important rights retained by the men who laid the foundations for America, for this very reason (along with the right to revolution, but that's an entire thread of its own)

 

If legal gun owners and second amendment rights protecters create fear in this world, what is it that you do? You urge people to stand silent when aggressors seek to deprive them of their lives, you urge people to trust government-sponsored dial-a-prayer: 911. Cops are not there to protect you, the courts have ruled that policemen are not your personal protection force. You are encouraging people to rely on someone who cannot be everywhere, who cannot protect everyone and aren't employed to protect individuals - if one tried to reconcile this with violent crime rates and home invasions I'd say you're the one propagating fear.

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