bump222 Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Well, GTA has to be smaller because it takes a long time for Rockstar to create the engine for the game. Most of the time spent on GTA IV was for the engine. When the next game in the IV series comes out, it will be huge because they don't have to rebuilt the engine and they can expand on it instead. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/279036-i-think-a-lot-of-us-are-underestimating-the-size/page/2/#findComment-4252081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucewayne909 Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Plus a lot of concentration was put on graphics. Maybe this will be the GTA where the characters actually have fingers instead of blocks for hands? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/279036-i-think-a-lot-of-us-are-underestimating-the-size/page/2/#findComment-4252083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinny-SWFC Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Ive got to admit i liked playing on SA's size but when you think of it, ALOT of space was used for the countryside/roads/Desert/little towns. If you take all that out, IV will be alot bigger than it plus its all ONE CITY. Think of all the back alleys. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/279036-i-think-a-lot-of-us-are-underestimating-the-size/page/2/#findComment-4252089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
freshlaundryX Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Plus a lot of concentration was put on graphics. Maybe this will be the GTA where the characters actually have fingers instead of blocks for hands? You know what would be funny? If one of the first things Niko did was flick somebody off. That would be R* saying to us, "here's your real hands mother f*ckers!" Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/279036-i-think-a-lot-of-us-are-underestimating-the-size/page/2/#findComment-4252186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick88 Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 To give you an idea on big its really going to be: -LC will be the biggest city R* has ever made (or remade), as said by Dan. Now going back to SA, we all saw how big of a damn map SA was. Now if Dan says that LC will be the same, if not, nearly the same size as SA. Imagine how big this one city is going to be compared to SA. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/279036-i-think-a-lot-of-us-are-underestimating-the-size/page/2/#findComment-4252266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Illicious Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Im very curious as to how large this game will be because if Rockstar did indeed map most of of the nyc boroughs then the game would be way to big. SA would not even compare to its size if mapped correctly. I do believe they will cut out many street blocks and try to squeeze in the most revelent ones. Would be interesting to have the city all mapped out but its not just ground level. Theres the sublevels and above is what would make LC just like nyc. I mean it would be incredibly amazing to drive up through my old hood and visit my current one and like to see my grocery store in game. Way to incredible but who knows. Im not sure any system could handle it or any disk could store enough data for this. Most likely it will be toned down. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/279036-i-think-a-lot-of-us-are-underestimating-the-size/page/2/#findComment-4252272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saigon Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 I'm sure we will have plenty of space to play around in. If anything, having more useful space will make LC seem bigger. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/279036-i-think-a-lot-of-us-are-underestimating-the-size/page/2/#findComment-4252281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pocho Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 if new map size was even near to San Andreas, i believe that Rockstar would make an extra effort and expanded it further, just to achieve marketing goal - bigger map size than previous game. that is important thing for creating necessary hype, and they know it. since this didnt happend, my conclusion is that GTAiv map is significantly smaller than SA. i agree with Red County comparison, anything smaller than that would be useless. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/279036-i-think-a-lot-of-us-are-underestimating-the-size/page/2/#findComment-4252366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
krama Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 Ive got to admit i liked playing on SA's size but when you think of it, ALOT of space was used for the countryside/roads/Desert/little towns. If you take all that out, IV will be alot bigger than it plus its all ONE CITY. Think of all the back alleys. that is completely true because when i play san an i never went to the country i stayed in the citys, and when i went two a different city i flew so even though it is smaller it will still seem the same size to me plus its got no irrelivent space Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/279036-i-think-a-lot-of-us-are-underestimating-the-size/page/2/#findComment-4287605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA3leading man Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 i think they said it will be pretty much all city no wasted space. 2/3 of san andreas is country and barren deserts Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/279036-i-think-a-lot-of-us-are-underestimating-the-size/page/2/#findComment-4287660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony da boss Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 People might not even notice the size difference between San Andreas and LC. San Andreas was so huge, you didn't even need 60% of the map. I think LC will be just about half the size, but more concentrated on the city, not countryside and desert bullsh*t. They even used half of Shore Side Vale in III as a waste of space, since it was just hills you couldn't even climb to the top of. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/279036-i-think-a-lot-of-us-are-underestimating-the-size/page/2/#findComment-4287668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA3leading man Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 shoreside sucked it was pretty confusing to navigate and find the spray shop and weps lot Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/279036-i-think-a-lot-of-us-are-underestimating-the-size/page/2/#findComment-4287672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYFan23 Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 i think a lot of us are underestimating how liberty city will not be as big as we all thinkk.......if you look the empire state building is right near downtown Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/279036-i-think-a-lot-of-us-are-underestimating-the-size/page/2/#findComment-4287706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKEY GTA Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 If it was the same size as Los Santos and red country that would be pathetic. And its also very pathetic people saying thats about the right size. no offence but thats complete bull sh*t, just because rockstar said Liberty city wont be as big as SA your all thinking the worst, it will be at least the same size as all of los Santos ans San fierro thats about right you have no clue what your talking about and some of you live there ffs. You really think they could fit all of the boroughs there doing into los Santos and red country get real and use some sence Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/279036-i-think-a-lot-of-us-are-underestimating-the-size/page/2/#findComment-4288046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundTrip Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 Yup. Agree. I will guess at 75-80% of SA. You can add to that possible sublevels and highrise buildings with lots of added space.. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/279036-i-think-a-lot-of-us-are-underestimating-the-size/page/2/#findComment-4288091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotjoBoss Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 So that's the outcome! 75% of SA. well... that's the end of this topic. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/279036-i-think-a-lot-of-us-are-underestimating-the-size/page/2/#findComment-4288270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundTrip Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 So that's the outcome! 75% of SA. well... that's the end of this topic. That's my estimate for land size. I do however think it will feel a lot bigger than SA with all the stuff you can do. Including multiple levels etc. So in a way.. it will be bigger Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/279036-i-think-a-lot-of-us-are-underestimating-the-size/page/2/#findComment-4288370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the skuzzbot Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 I would laugh if Houser was just pulling our legs and ended up it being like, bigger than San Andreas. He is kind of a jerk. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/279036-i-think-a-lot-of-us-are-underestimating-the-size/page/2/#findComment-4288684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKEY GTA Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 i dont think hes a jerk he and sam are the men go Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/279036-i-think-a-lot-of-us-are-underestimating-the-size/page/2/#findComment-4288746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomHeadshot Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 to get a realistic city it needs to be around the size of the whole of san andreas Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/279036-i-think-a-lot-of-us-are-underestimating-the-size/page/2/#findComment-4288809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfenVic Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 I happen to think GTA IV will in fact be bigger than San An. Each time we get a preview they ask about landmass but what they haven't included so far is how much water is between landmasses. See if there is enough water inbetween landmasses the game could appear larger. See one brough is red county, then water ,another is the area around Mt Chilliad,then water then another and another till the game is bigger then we expected but smaller then we think. Add on if this LC is like that then we can expect the "one hour from one end to the other" to probably appear. Hope I made sense. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/279036-i-think-a-lot-of-us-are-underestimating-the-size/page/2/#findComment-4288878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKEY GTA Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 good point trains i think so too. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/279036-i-think-a-lot-of-us-are-underestimating-the-size/page/2/#findComment-4288922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
farrugia Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 I happen to think GTA IV will in fact be bigger than San An. Each time we get a preview they ask about landmass but what they haven't included so far is how much water is between landmasses. See if there is enough water inbetween landmasses the game could appear larger. See one brough is red county, then water ,another is the area around Mt Chilliad,then water then another and another till the game is bigger then we expected but smaller then we think. Add on if this LC is like that then we can expect the "one hour from one end to the other" to probably appear. Hope I made sense. Oh of course. Why not make motherf*cking oceans between each island? That way the map will look really huge!!! The only way I see you to take one hour to travel from end to end is to get stuck in a New York style traffic jam. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/279036-i-think-a-lot-of-us-are-underestimating-the-size/page/2/#findComment-4289029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfenVic Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 Oh of course. Why not make motherf*cking oceans between each island? That way the map will look really huge!!! The only way I see you to take one hour to travel from end to end is to get stuck in a New York style traffic jam. Well this is to be New york so yeah traffic jams are possible but on the oceans no. See each area is different in width and since we don't know how excatly the are's will be put together I am putting them in lines. Crossing a river in GTA for New York should REALISTICly take about two to three minutes and not oceans but slow moving bridge traffic.Now if this city had no cars I'd say a 20 seconds to cross the river and about half an hour to get across the city. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/279036-i-think-a-lot-of-us-are-underestimating-the-size/page/2/#findComment-4289054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b4rtsimps0n Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 Oh of course. Why not make motherf*cking oceans between each island? That way the map will look really huge!!! The only way I see you to take one hour to travel from end to end is to get stuck in a New York style traffic jam. Well this is to be New york so yeah traffic jams are possible but on the oceans no. See each area is different in width and since we don't know how excatly the are's will be put together I am putting them in lines. Crossing a river in GTA for New York should REALISTICly take about two to three minutes and not oceans but slow moving bridge traffic.Now if this city had no cars I'd say a 20 seconds to cross the river and about half an hour to get across the city. there won't be any traffic jams and huge traffic that you can't get trough fast enough. rockstar said they're making the traffic look real and dense but without affecting gameplay so you can drive trough lc fast enough. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/279036-i-think-a-lot-of-us-are-underestimating-the-size/page/2/#findComment-4289083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaringbugle Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 Am I the only one who wants a smaller map? Personally, I do not like all of the wasted space in San Andreas. I would much rather prefer a smaller, more detailed city where most of the buildings are interactive. No more cities with buildings just for decoration and the occasional mission. Is it fun to speed down a seemingly endless country side road? Sure, but that offers no more than a few fun minutes. I do not want the city to be spread across a huge map, just so Rockstar can say, "Hey, the map is the same size as San Andreas!" Think of how fun it would be learning every corner of the city. Knowing what buildings are what. No more driving across miles of country side to get to another city. I want to learn back alley ways and side routes to avoid the police. Maybe it's just me, but i would be fine with a city the size of Red County and Los Santos combined, all city with no wasted space. Thats about 40 percent of San Andreas. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/279036-i-think-a-lot-of-us-are-underestimating-the-size/page/2/#findComment-4289190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxmylastregrets Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 I agree, its prolly gonna be about 75 percent of S.A. Either way, like said before, theres gonna be vertical space too. I mean it is a city. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/279036-i-think-a-lot-of-us-are-underestimating-the-size/page/2/#findComment-1057292722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnyboy Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 I say 80% of SA Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/279036-i-think-a-lot-of-us-are-underestimating-the-size/page/2/#findComment-1057292724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bren_34 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 i think they said it will be pretty much all city no wasted space. 2/3 of san andreas is country and barren deserts Pretty much, yeah. I'd go as far as to say about 3/4ths of San Andrea's was Barren Deserts, Country and Ocean inbetween. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/279036-i-think-a-lot-of-us-are-underestimating-the-size/page/2/#findComment-1057292833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
swishersweets20031 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 does anyone feel this game is starting to become very over hyped? im more interested in the sequel to this then this game actually. Im assuming alot of new bells and wistles so to speak. But how long will this be impressive? I think the real leap will be the sequel after. Just like what was done with part 3 it was new and fresh then vice city just upped the bar. To me IV will be the test ground for what direction they will go and the one after will be the one that should be carved in stone and so on and so on after with sequels. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/279036-i-think-a-lot-of-us-are-underestimating-the-size/page/2/#findComment-1057292869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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