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[Demarest]

Hello, all. After a chance encounter the other day, I now own LCS. Prior to that, I hadn't even read about it. I know you're Toni and I know there's bikes. And that's it. I purposely shied away from anything to do with it because A) R* f*cked us over SA and B) it was only available on systems I didn't have anyways.

 

Well now I'm getting ready to play it. I'm kind of afraid to though. If you know me, then you know I LOVE GTA3. Another game in a city I'm familiar with like the back of my hand in ANOTHER game might be confusing. Or worse, impair my knowledge of the original game. I'm probably just being, pessimistic, eh?

 

So yeah, just thought I'd share the experience. Feel free to discuss your first times. No spoilers please. As I said, I know NOTHING about this game and I miss that element in the other GTA3D's.

[BixDugan]

Its Liberty City, with BIKES!

Whats not to love?

Can't say more. don't want to spoil it for you.

OK?

 

You will love it.

 

Hints.

you can get a special vehicle by doing the "Avenging Angels" side mission on Portland. But you should wait til you get to Staunton, because you only have one garage on Portland. You need that to store another special vehicle from a mission involving

 

Spoiler alert

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You having to gun down a guy on a PCJ. If you kill him while he's still on his mount, grab that PCJ and store it. 2 guesses as to why its "Special".

 

 

And have fun with the USJs!

[saintdave]

Being a big fan of GTA 3 myself I was as eager as anyone to play LCS. When I finally got it I knew I wouldn’t be disappointed and neither will you.

 

You’ll enjoy familiarising yourself with the city again and checking the slight yet noticeable differences in certain landmarks and buildings. As well as some old faces the new characters offer a great extension to the GTA series and the storyline leading up to GTA 3.

[jnzooger]

The story explains a lot of things that are questionable in III. Like, the broken road in Portland, the construction site in Stauton, etc.

 

Other than that, it feels like the Liberty City mod for Vice City...minus easily obtainable helis.

[BixDugan]

Here is another tip...

 

 

not really a spoiler so,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There is a sanchez in the junkyard that starts a checkpoint race. Complete it and every car you take it to get compacted gats quadruple value!

[Demarest]

No spoilers please! I don't want to know the location of anything unless I find it. I thought I had found a few UJ's and were trying them out and died. And I roughed it, looking for PCJ's. My reward was finding a parked one and that is far more rewarding than looking it up online.

 

So far, I've found six hidden packages, completed four UJ's, and a rampage. I've been spending most of my time redoing the UJ's. There's this one that was quite hard to nail.

 

I'm seeing some landmark differences. I was intriguied too when I drove by the docks and saw a picket line. I had heard about it on the radio earlier. It also explained why when I got into the docks earlier, I had a mob after me. I thought it was a gang thing, but now I know. Probably is related to unlocking Staunton, but don't tell me!

 

So far, so good. I'm really liking the radio too. I thought I heard Method at one point. And a song by De La Soul (I think) that I had already been listening to before LCS.

[SteaVor]

Congrats on your purchase, Demarest! I wonder if you can get to 100% without looking up some locations (or being spoilered to death by some peole here in this very thread )

 

Just so you know, I'm feeling really left out now, not owning a console that I could play LCS on...

[Demarest]

Okay, I have my first question for you guys. Pretend this pic is LCS. Is the yellow ramp in front of Fido a UJ?

 

 

The reason I ask is because during Junkyard whatever it was called, the camera actually slowed down when I ramped this. Just one time though and I must've did the mission six times before actually passing it. But just that once. Now, I can't duplicate it even with a PCJ. Even using the boardwalk above and behind me as a runup. I don't want to beat my head against the wall if it's for naught, but am willing to see it through if I must. And feel free to throw in tips of how to get it. Maybe it's commonly missed. Maybe it's just me.

 

@SteaVor: I don't know. I've only been doing misc. stuff and it already says 13% complete. That can't possibly be true. Funny part is that I've only explored about half of Portland by now, if that. A couple odd things I've noticed: There are a TON of health pickups. And most all of the bribes are airborn

[HeliPilot]

Hi Dem.

 

To answer your Q: No, not a UJ at Harwood.

 

I am totally hooked, have been for over a year now, well over 150 hours game time do far:).

 

I was also skeptical because I love Liberty, and GTAIII as you know was my favorite in the series until LCS came out.

All the very best of LC with a TON of side missions and other stuff to do after 100% complete. Another cool thing is watching the city slowly change as you complete story missions, signs change, and so on.

 

And Edisoncarter's cheat device is just the icing(helis) on the cake. Highly recommended to use if at all possible.(I'm lucky, I own a 2.60 PSP just for LCS with CD10D so I use the savefile version).

 

Anyway, thats it, can't say too much more and not give something away.

 

 

 

 

 

[Demarest]

Thanks. Both for the answer and the additional info. If it's not a UJ, then why do you suppose the camera went slow-mo on me and just that one time? No worries.

 

You want to hear what's really cool? I already have 20 HP's and a few of the locations are straight out of my Waldorf mod! I think that's why I'm doing so well at finding stuff: Not only because I know the city, but also because I had to comb it before. I've had a couple HP arrangements and once, years after writing it, I ran through to try and find them. Of course, some of the nooks and crannies are different here, but I'm trying. And doing well enough I think.

 

Since you know the game, I had another reveal something to me question. But ONLY if it doesn't make itself obvious in the game. I'm talking about the construction of Misty's apartments. At the top, is a ramp and a sniper rifle. I've tried a few times a few ways and can NOT get a bike up there. I abandoned the idea because being a construction site, I thought maybe a crane unlocked later and I could use that. Or maybe a heli with a magnet. I'm probably wishing on that one because I don't know yet if the game even HAS helis. Anyways, if it IS a UJ, and I'll be able to access it later, just leave me to it. Otherwise, I'd like to know if it is and if so, how the hell do you get it?

 

One last question: are the stats per island? They said something like 26 total UJ's, and I already have nine in Portland alone.

[HeliPilot]

Dem.

To answer your question about the construction in Portland, I can't really think of a good way without spoiling, but, Yes, a UJ will lead you to the top of the construction, after a certain story mission is done it reveals the ramp, and a bike won't quite do it, you need a Hellenbach GT at least.

 

The UJs are a total of 26 through-out LCS.

 

Hope this helps a little.

[Demarest]

Yes, though I don't know what that vehicle is. I was mostly trying to make sure that my inability to do it at this time wasn't a result of my own lack of prowess.

 

I must say: Scooter Shooter was a blast! Well, ten blasts before time ran out And Wong Side of the Tracks was another fresh idea.

 

All the R* lovers might want to cover your ears for this next one... When is R* going to learn that we don't like Paramedic? At least when they put it into SA for the third straight game, it was a different map. We've done this before in the streets of Liberty City. That would be like putting a Patriot in the parking lot of Fidl and having it trigger a mission called Patriot Playground with all the same corona locations. It's not a new game.

 

Keeping in mind that I don't think I have access to boats yet (there's a lot of rock islands that look tasty), I think I'm done exploring Portland. I still have Vigilante, Taxi Driver, and Firefighter to do (assuming they're still in here). On my own, I've found/did

 

five Rampages

26 HP's

nine UJ's

Paramedic

Thrashin' RC (one lap)

Bump & Grinds (all ten courses)

Noodle Punk

Wong Side of the Tracks

Scooter Shooter

Junkyard... something

 

 

All in all, 19% complete. If I've missed anything in Portland, I don't want to know. Just thought I'd share my results thus far.

[BixDugan]

Thats a roaring start alright. Sorry if I tipped you off on things you sorta don't want to know ....yet.

 

As to the ....

never mind, can't say or I'll get scolded.

 

How about the... no, sorry.

 

Did you know that mmnph, mrythrd in the upprjoindst.

Hey! Stop covering my mouth!

 

But I CAN say this, I hope. When I first went into the docks I took the back way in, from the beach. So I was surprised to be attacked too. LOL.

 

And I think I know why the chute (pictured) seems like a USJ. They slow the action a bit so you can adjust the bike in the air, to get the highest checkpoint, and confirm that you got it.

 

Again, my apologies.

 

Have a "blast". (chuckles under breath)

 

Edit:

A note about Vigilante.

On PS2 anyway, GTA III had the "Vig Glitch", where pausing the game caused targets to stop and exit their car. Fairly Easy.

 

Vice City:

You could wait to get the Hunter.

Easy.

 

SA:

See Vice City

 

VCS:

Ditto

 

LCS:

I had to do it the hard way, as in chasing targets in the usual Vig vehicles. When I finally passed it, both my hands felt bruised, and had honest to goodness blisters on a few fingers. But you'll have no problem.

Edited May 4, 2007 by BixDugan

[Demarest]

Yeah. So far, Vigilante has been the most challenging. On PC, it would be no issue. But aiming weapons at cars on the PS2 is a real chore. I ended up stocking up on SMG and making most of the kills out my window

 

Car Salesman was a nifty idea. Dragged on for so long though, I began to wonder if I was just making money or actually building towards something. Then I found out

 

I'm in a bit of a pickle though. I have the Hellenbach from one on Vincenzo's missions and now the Thunder Rodd as well... But only one garage! I hope neither is a lost forever.

 

I was similarly disappointed that Taxi Driver was unchanged. I would've settled for 50 dropoffs. Granted, in Portland, it's still pretty fast. Meh. Any idea why the Bickle has only shown up once of the dozen times I've visited Mean Street? For that matter, I wouldn't mind knowing why there's so many damn health pickups. Or why almost all of the bribes are airborn.

 

It's funny taking Ma Cipriani missions though. I remember back when Toni called up Chatterbox in GTAIII. Makes even more sense now

 

@Bix: No worries. I read you said something like "there's a Sanchez" and I stopped reading. I tried getting in every parked car I could find just in case it led to a mission. I think I've found two Sanchezes that started missions. I don't know if it's what you were trying to tell me though as I didn't read it anyways.

 

Guess I'll keep plugging away and hope I get another garage soon. Then once I'm in Staunton, I can shift back into explore mode.

[BixDugan]

D.

The "Junkyard thing" that you found is what I was hinting at, the Junkyard Checkpoint Pick-up Mission that starts by getting on that Sanchez. If you completed it, then you have the reward. If you missed the "blurb" about the reward, check my earlier post. Already finished the dirt-track races? That was quick. The Manchez is pretty nifty.

 

About that construction area. You saw the sniper rifle on top (I never did, til I got there) of the tall building. Did you see the other item? In plain sight, but couldn't get to from the ground? Another poster said a ramp is available later on, but I have heard that its possible to land up there before that, by using a "nearby infrastructure". Never made it myself. But you're probably already on Staunton.

 

I'm envious, you're getting to play a new GTA. I've gotta wait til October.

 

Some of those USJ aren't so easy, huh?

 

Edit:

Strange you're worried about losing the Hellenbach, ( Hell and Back, get it? I didn't! ) since you said you completed car salesman...Hmmmm

Edited May 4, 2007 by BixDugan

[Demarest]

Well what's the point of 4x junkyard prices? I never used the crusher in GTA3 and I don't use it here. No real money to speak of. I've been collecting my Noodles money and car dealership money. Though nothing has come up yet that really needs money.

 

You mentioned Manchez. When I finished the tenth course, I thought I saw it said something about Manchez. But I didn't read what. And it wasn't recorded in the Brief option in the menu. What am I missing out on?

 

Yes, I saw that in my first visit to Misty's apt yard. Getting it is not hard at all. If you hop on the el train tracks, it's easy to run and jump from there to a ledge on the upper construction area. From there, it's just a matter of dropping down. But this top construction area is what I was able to access from the start. It seems as if both of you thought I was asking how to get up there. But I was asking if the ramp that was up there was a UJ as I couldn't tell because I couldn't figure out a way to get a BIKE up there.

 

I passed Blow Up Dolls. There's a hidden package INSIDE the building! That's not cool! But yes, I was able to complete the UJ (with a bike no less). Once up there, the ramp beside the sniper rifle pickup doesn't seem to be a UJ.

 

Just after I made my last post, I realized there were a couple areas I had overlooked exploring. As a result, I found 9mm Mayhem and an AK pickup. I had done an AK Rampage before and I REALLY like the way they changed that gun. So I was glad to find a pickup. Wish I would've found it before Vigilante, but it wouldn't have made too big a difference.

 

What caught me off guard was that after I beat the Dolls mission, the radio announcer spoke of it. No big deal as that made sense. But after I completed the mission where you supply hookers to the picket line, the announcer came on talking about a Max Sentenz or something like that. I don't remember seeing any signs or anything, so if this is a side job I can do, I wouldn't know. Just seemed odd because if they're going to announce it like that, it must mean SOMETHING. Maybe it will become apparent later.

 

If you want to talk about perplexing HP's, how about the one on the roof of the AmCo station? Is it still called AmCo? Anyways, I have yet to get that one. Haven't figured it out yet. If there's no helis in the game, I'd have to use a Packer or something. Haven't seen one though. I saw a vehicle that looked KIND OF like one, but I'd bet it's a Flatbed. Besides, the ramp it's carrying doesn't extend to the ground. Don't tell me (yet). I am patiently awaiting the point in time I get to pick that up.

 

[EDIT]

Almost forgot. You said something about Car Salesman and the Hellenbach. What did you mean by that? Was there another reward other than a cash pickup I'm not aware of? I didn't see one parked in the lot and the car parked in the showroom is a Kuruma.

 

[EDIT2]

I was worried for nothing. I just found a parked Thunder Rodd at the old school hall. It wasn't there before, so I assume I unlocked it when I did that race. Speaking of which, afterwards, I was told I'd be called with challenges. But haven't yet. Oh well.

 

[EDIT3]

Is Slash TV required for 100%? It's kind of fun and the challenge does increase. But I don't feel like doing it right now if it's not required for 100%.

Edited May 5, 2007 by Demarest

[GTA_Loco]

 

Well what's the point of 4x junkyard prices? I never used the crusher in GTA3 and I don't use it here. No real money to speak of. I've been collecting my Noodles money and car dealership money. Though nothing has come up yet that really needs money.

You’re right on that. There aren’t much to purchase in this game except maybe some weapons that you can pick up somewhere anyway. If you need lots of ammo for some important ones you can just glitch them without having to spend a single dollar.

 

 

Almost forgot. You said something about Car Salesman and the Hellenbach. What did you mean by that? Was there another reward other than a cash pickup I'm not aware of? I didn't see one parked in the lot and the car parked in the showroom is a Kuruma.

Maybe he was just referring to the car spawn after doing a number of levels in the mission. You might consider it a reward too if you can figure out what else you can get from those vehicles that you have to test drive for the customers. Since you said you didn’t want any spoilers I thought I’m not going to mention anything about it yet. Unless of course you know about it already when you said earlier you found out something about that mission.

 

 

I was worried for nothing. I just found a parked Thunder Rodd at the old school hall. It wasn't there before, so I assume I unlocked it when I did that race. Speaking of which, afterwards, I was told I'd be called with challenges. But haven't yet. Oh well.

That car is always parked there from the beginning of the game. No need for any task(s) to unlock it. If I’m not mistaken, it spawns there from between 13:00 to about 18:00.

 

 

Is Slash TV required for 100%? It's kind of fun and the challenge does increase. But I don't feel like doing it right now if it's not required for 100%

Yup. You need to do two rounds of 5 levels each, then you get some nice rewards from it.

 

Just as an additional tip, you can get a Rhino from the army very early on if you feel like having the convenience of using one for your vigilante mission. I think it’s more like a glitch that’s really useful.

[Demarest]

Almost forgot. You said something about Car Salesman and the Hellenbach. What did you mean by that? Was there another reward other than a cash pickup I'm not aware of? I didn't see one parked in the lot and the car parked in the showroom is a Kuruma.

Maybe he was just referring to the car spawn after doing a number of levels in the mission. You might consider it a reward too if you can figure out what else you can get from those vehicles that you have to test drive for the customers. Since you said you didn’t want any spoilers I thought I’m not going to mention anything about it yet. Unless of course you know about it already when you said earlier you found out something about that mission.

Are you saying that even after you win the cash pickup there, you need to keep playing more levels to unlock more stuff?

 

And thanks for using spoiler tags. I haven't revealed what it says yet, but it's nice to know it's there if I need it. And thanks for letting me know that Slash TV builds to 100%. After trying Portland Chainsaw Masquerade a LOT of times to get the hang of it, I really wasn't interested in playing it some more so soon if I didn't have to.

[GTA_Loco]

 

Are you saying that even after you win the cash pickup there, you need to keep playing more levels to unlock more stuff?

 

And thanks for using spoiler tags. I haven't revealed what it says yet, but it's nice to know it's there if I need it. And thanks for letting me know that Slash TV builds to 100%. After trying Portland Chainsaw Masquerade a LOT of times to get the hang of it, I really wasn't interested in playing it some more so soon if I didn't have to.

Anytime Dem

 

Not exactly unlock more stuff. It has something to do with the vehicles themselves. All those you test drive are bulletproof, explosionproof and fireproof.

 

I thought I'd just let you know about this if it might interest you somehow.

 

[radioman]

Congratulations Demerest on getting the sequel to your faviriot game, although in my opinion, it is harder than GTA 3. Do you think you can get 100% in this as fast as you did in GTA 3?

 

When I first got the game, I was surprised to see that you can't jump the bridge to stauntan early like in GTA 3, but i'm still trying to find a way so I can get the hidden packages early like in gta 3, so if you find a way please let me know. I also noticed that the missions are a little more evolved than they were in the previous game, as you probably are finding out. and about the hidden package on the gas station, the best vehicle for that is the pcj 600 bike and involves the wall used to get the gta 3 one there-but that's all i' saying as I don't want to spoil it for you. Hope this helps.

[Demarest]

Not exactly unlock more stuff. It has something to do with the vehicles themselves.

He wasn't talking about the vehicles themselves. He mentioned a connection with the Hellenbach.

 

 

Congratulations Demerest on getting the sequel to your faviriot game, although in my opinion, it is harder than GTA 3. Do you think you can get 100% in this as fast as you did in GTA 3?

As if. Portland alone had at least 50% more missions and probably 100% more side stuff. And that's just of the stuff I've actually found! Who knows if there's more.

 

Also, I don't want to be told how to do this or that unless I ask. The package you tried to tell me about (again, I didn't read) is one I assumed a story mission would reveal to me how to get it, or it involves a heli or a Packer. Unless the game returns to Portland like SA returned to Grove St, I can scratch that option. And if I play through the game to find there are no helis or Packers, then I'll re-evaluate it at that time. If at that time, I'll want to know how to get it, I'll ask.

 

The only stuff that's really fair game is the stuff I ask about or the stuff I've already done. For example, there was mention of a Manchez. I remember seeing that word on screen, but didn't get to read what the game was saying about it. So if somebody could fill me in on that, I'm still awaiting a reply. Looks like Bix disappeared.

[saintdave]

When you ask about the Manchez are you asking about how to get it?

[Demarest]

I don't know. When I completed track ten Bump and Grind or whatever, it said something. When Bix saw that that was in my list of accomplishments, HE said something. So I don't think I'm asking how to get it. I'm assuming it's upon completion of track ten. But I don't know where it is as I didn't catch what it was saying.

[saintdave]

As you say you have completed the 10 tracks and the game acknowledged this the following isn’t really a spoiler. But just incase it tells the location of the bike.

 

The Manchez spawns on the dirt track upon the completion of the courses.

[Demarest]

Thanks.

 

I stumbled upon Deimos Dash and Torrington TT. That must be the racing thing. Though I was never contacted. I was also happy to stumble on the Love Media car list. Don't know why, but the car lists have always been my favorite parts of the GTA's. Makes me glad I held onto the Hellenbach so long ago! One thing I'm bummed about though: The time I tried the ferry just to see what it was about, it dropped me off at Portland and there were three Phobos's right there. I hopped in one to see what it was, but I didn't keep it. Haven't seen one since and now I need it. And I didn't even know Hearses were in the game! So I won't be able to complete it immediately.

 

I had taken a day's break after I reached Staunton and just picked it back up today. I'm not even half done exploring Staunton! I had about 38 sales made in Bike Salesman before I finally realized that screwing around at the top of the inoperable lift bridge somehow built up the meter pretty quickly. Must be the altitude. But then I fell in the drink! I wasn't looking forward to having to do that all over again. Then I found out they are cumulative and I just had to do a few more. Whew!

 

So noobody else thinks it's cool that they used a few HP locations from my Waldorf mod? They probably would've used more, but Waldorf was meant to be HARD. Including some you could see and have to wonder how the hell to get them. I found the one by the lift bridge. Not quite where I put it in Waldorf, but still much harder to see/get to than mainstream GTA

 

I'm liking a lot about the atmosphere. I like that there' bikes, but no policeman on bikes I'm really liking the radio stations. I like how the R3 missions require you to hit R3 twice to quit. There's been a few times over the years that such a thing would've been helpful. Especially in SA, where 2 is default submission, and just a key away from W (default forward). And I lol'ed when I saw the hockey stick in front of the stadium. I didn't even realize there was one in the game. To find it outside a sporting venue was cute.

 

Still in explore mode though. And haven't really touched the blocks that are there, but weren't in GTA3. That should be interesting. It sucks that so much is under construction. Like tw@ and the stadium. But so far, I've been finding UJ's, HP's, and a few side jobs.

[Cdgthug]

If you already got the cash pickup from the auto store, The car inside should have changed to a Hellenbach

[Demarest]

Oooooh! I didn't even think to check. Does the game tell you so?

 

I just finished the Avenging Angels mission. Thanks to everybody for not telling me about it, even when I expressed dismay at the radio message. Either I'm stupid or R*'s clever; I got the outfit and could see what they looked like and I heard the radio announcement, but I didn't put 2 and 2 together. That's as hidden/clever as Multi-Stlorey Mayhem was in GTA3.

[GTA_Loco]

 

I just finished the Avenging Angels mission.

Oh no, I hope you didn’t miss something there. Well that is only if you’d care having that "something" as a reward.

 

 

I stumbled upon Deimos Dash and Torrington TT. That must be the racing thing. Though I was never contacted.

Car and motorbike races send you notice of their availability immediately after you complete the missions that open them. "Grease Sucho" for car races and "Booby Prize" for the motorbike races

 

It’s good to know you’re liking the game, you being a Liberty City/GTA games veteran. Despite what others say negatively about it, it’s still a quality GTA game.

 

[Demarest]

 

When I first got the game, I was surprised to see that you can't jump the bridge to stauntan early like in GTA 3, but i'm still trying to find a way so I can get the hidden packages early like in gta 3, so if you find a way please let me know.

Well, I never bothered to try. I didn't have a problem with exploring Portland first and then the missions, exploring Staunton first, etc. But then I got to thinking. I'm like you: I enjoy being able to jump to the next islands and collect some stuff early. It's not like they made it easy (especially for console users). Same with VC. It wasn't easy, but you could skip ahead if you liked. Besides that, some people find GTA's too hard and would like to just kick around. When SA came out, I was quite bothered by the facts that A) you could NOT skip ahead and B) even if you could, when you could start certain side missions required doing story missions to unlock them. It's fun to launch GTA3/VC and do ALL the side stuff straightaway. Don't we play these to have fun? I wish I knew why suddenly R* is so insistent upon our meeting tasks in a timely fashion. All they have to do is make the way challengin or hard to find.

 

Anyways, when I'm finished, I'll probably try and find a way. Though if there's a way, I'd think it would be published by now. But that's not why I'm posting. I'm posting because after all of the above, I thought I'd give an old GTA3 trick a bit of a spin and try it here... and it worked! As such, I haven't even done the first Staunton mission and I'm on SSV. No cheats used either; I've never even looked them up or know what they are. Old GTA3'ers might remember reading similar things for GTA3. There was one guy I remember who was determined to get a boat in the water in front of the dam. He got real close too. I wish I could remember his username because he was the inspiration for what I just did.

 

If you take a Speeder and scan the NE coast of Staunton, you see a green shoreline that comes to a VERY MODERATE V shape. The coast itself is quite steep. From the upper ferry pier of Portland (I don't think ferries actually utilize it; or maybe it's meant to be a ferry to SSV later), take the Speeder full speed into the V. The first time I did this, I barely made it onto land and it was so near the edge that by time I was able to get a truck just a few feet away and come back, it had slid so far I couldn't use it. The second approach however, I was already on the upstroke from the tide when I hit the shoreline. I literally launched into the center of the road. At this point, you want a Patriot if you can have one. I wouldn't leave the boat just in case it disappears. I had to settle on a Landstalker, but it still has the 4x4-ish trait, which is important. From here, you're trying to puse it in a northwest by west direction so that you can push it west of the ferry station and therefore west of the separating pipeline. Try your best to push, not ram. The boat will take a lot of damage, but even with SOME ramming, I was able to shove it back into the water west of the ferry station. It was so beat up that when I "rammed" SSV in the picnic area where Rumble and Gripped! take place, it caught fire. I bailed and was safely on SSV though I'll find out shortly enough if I can use the safehouse/garage and/or make use of any side missions that would be triggered by Rampage icons, parked cars, etc.

 

 

Oh no, I hope you didn�t miss something there. Well that is only if you�d care having that "something" as a reward.

Okay, now you're just teasing The reward was the ability to get busted without losing money. Which really is stupid considering money appears to be no object in the game. Not losing your weapons would've been good. Or how about this: I stumbled upon Well Snacked Pizza. When I finished it, I wasn't at all surprised that I gained even more max health because I had noticed that the plus on my health bar was conspicuously smaller than the plus on my armor bar. Why not do the same thing with armor and make the second boosting come from the Avenging Angels mission?

 

 

Car and motorbike races send you notice of their availability immediately after you complete the missions that open them. "Grease Sucho" for car races and "Booby Prize" for the motorbike races

Oh I know. It's just that at the time, it told me I'd be contacted. A phone ringing that I just happen to notice the corresponding yellow sphere of isn't what I would consider contact. It just makes me wonder if there were phones on Portland I didn't notice because I did my exploring before the story missions.

 

 

It�s good to know you�re liking the game, you being a Liberty City/GTA games veteran. Despite what others say negatively about it, it�s still a quality GTA game.

I didn't realize others spoke negatively about it. Believe me, I have my gripes as well. For now, I'm keeping them mostly to myself because I want to get the full experience in before I criticize certain elements of it. My biggest complaint as you can see is the inability to truly do what you want when you want. Which is why when I realized that Blow Up Dolls yielded another HP and UJ, I wasn't happy at all despite actually gaining more in the game. Blowing up the factory in VC and having an exposed minigun pickup is one thing. Concealing elements of 100% is another. At least in my book. Other than that, my only observation at this point is that the timidity of SOME of the missions and certain aspects of the radio stations and ped commentary make it pretty clear that we did not get top shelf R* in this installment. I almost won't hold that against them just because what the project itself stands for. By that I mean that they have come a long way in GTA environment/development. The desire to revisit the first 3D city is understandable. Especially when you consider that for years, many people the world over have put effort into making or partaking of a mod that put this city into a newer engine to benefit from some of the newer engine features. This could be considered their way of saying this is how they'd do it if they did it today. To that end, I approve thus far. That's why I made this topic: I wanted to be able to spill my thoughts as I go. I'm glad I did too because I've never approached a GTA with this level of "I'll do it myself" before. I'm finding out I only cheated myself in so doing. To give you an example of what I mean, I'm only a Hearse away from completing the Love Media car list. Before, I might look up LCS Hearse online to at least see if I yet have access to a parked one or at least a pic of exactly what it looks like. You know, simple assistance like that. Here though, I'm completely starving myself. I'm going to do what I can by myself, see how much percentage I get, and THEN peek.

 

[EDIT]

Turns out you cannot save on SSV. So I thought I'd go looking for helis. No luck. And I was beginning to see too much and would rather take the game at its intended progression. So after beliving myself to be done with exploring Staunton, I've found, done:

 

55%

12 Rampages

54 HP's

15 UJ's

Bike Salesman

Trash Dash

Slash TV

15 Love Media cars

Avenging Angels

Ragin' RC

Deimos Dash

Torrington TT

Go Go Faggio

Well Snacked Pizza

9mm Mayhem

Edited May 7, 2007 by Demarest

[BixDugan]

Demarest-

 

Last Friday I was furiously trying to complete a post with some hints/answers I thought you were wanting. I needed to catch a bus, and I thought I completed the post, but I don't see it anywhere, so my bad. Didn't mean to bail on you.

 

So:

After reading the rest of the thread, I'm not sure you want ANY help,

since I don't know if you looked at the spoilered-out black boxes.

Did you find the secret of the Hellenback spawn point on Portland?

Manchez: The hint I gave in my non-post was "where were you when you got that message?"

 

BTW- you have all you need to get the gas station HP from the start of the game. I believe one way was already hinted at. I have another but it doesn't include a Packer (not in game anyway), but another similarly sized vehicle.

 

You said you completed AA mission and received "get money or weapons back after getting busted/wasted" reward. I'm not sure of this reward because I'll re-load if wasted or busted. But there is another reward(s) for AA, that you NEED to figure out, especially if you like unique vehicles, and have a garage to store it.

 

How'd you like the "escape from Portland" mission? The first time I did it, I was in a Garbage Truck! So Sal's comment made sense. LOL!

Edited May 7, 2007 by BixDugan