Did Vic die or did Pete die?

[Grove4Lyfe]

I thought it was Vic in the first place. And you can see why in the other topic about this posted by GTAvanja.

 

But I searched a bit more and I think it is reasonable that it is Pete. Before people said Vic doesn't have an accent. I replied by

saying that GTA VCS probably was not planned yet when they made VC. But look at it this way.

Maybe the GTA's were not placed in a proper order because when you look at it this way, GTA 3's storyline happened after GTA SA's storyline even though it was made first.

 

But take the whole GTA storyline. All of it has always made sense.

So all of you people who believe it was Vic. Let's pretend it was Vic. Why would they take Vic from VC who has an accent and put him in VCS and take away his accent? I mean they could have just made someone else the main character of VCS like they did to LCS. They took out Claude and put Toni Cipriani.

 

Vic said he would lay off the drug money they made as well. All of that money they made could be used to get medications for Pete.

 

If you go to www.google.ca and type in Pete Vance, you will see a picture of him at the deal. It says "Pete as he is about to engage......."

Or type in Vic Vance and go to page 3.

Edited April 4, 2007 by Grove4Lyfe

[Rashon.]

Rockstar wouldn't want Victor to be in VCS with a South American accent. They took that out since he wasn't a major character in Vice City. Vice City Stories wasn't the first time Victor was seen or metioned anywhere. He was on the Vice City official website for gosh sakes. If Pete died in the deal, then his name would've been up there, Victor's wouldn't, and he probably wouldn't even be the protagonist in VCS.

[humancorpse]

Also, during VC, Lance keeps complaining about how is brothre used to threat him like kid. VCS was made after this, and they made Vic fit this description.

 

But anyway, why do we need another topic on this when we've already got one on the same page?

[jrbabbitt]

Personally, i think you are reading too much into what Lance says in the beginning of Vice city, mentioning to Tommy vercetti that he wants his "brother's money and white lady".

Think of it this way, since we all can see that there is a visible difference between Victor and the person in the opening cutscene in Vice City, could it have been possible that Lance was referring to his "brother" as slang for his current new partner, trying to sell off the drugs and not his "blood-brother"?

 

Look in a different context of the phrase "my Brother"

 

 

hmm, something to ponder???? just food for thought.......

[Grove4Lyfe]

 

Also, during VC, Lance keeps complaining about how is brothre used to threat him like kid. VCS was made after this, and they made Vic fit this description.

 

But anyway, why do we need another topic on this when we've already got one on the same page?

Lance did say his brother treated him wrong. And of course he most likely means Vic. I agree with you on that, but it doesn't mean Pete wasn't the one that was shot. I don't see how what you are saying has anything to do with this.

 

Lance could have meant Pete when he said "He killed my brother! What do you expect me to do mow his lawns?" and when he said that his brother treated him unfairly he could have meant Vic. He didn't mention any specific names which means he could have been talking about both Pete and Vic. Lance doesn't have to talk about one brother throughout the whole game here!

[TonyZimmzy]

I haven't read through this topic but I'll say what I always say just incase it hasn't been covered.

 

Vic used the phony accent at the deal to make sure Diaz couldn't track that it was the Vance brothers going behind his back selling their coke when they were meant to be working for him. Diaz heard a coke deal going down and ordered for the dealers to be killed, not realizing it was the Vance's.

[Adam Jensen]

 

Lance could have meant Pete when he said "He killed my brother! What do you expect me to do mow his lawns?" and when he said that his brother treated him unfairly he could have meant Vic. He didn't mention any specific names which means he could have been talking about both Pete and Vic. Lance doesn't have to talk about one brother throughout the whole game here!

I agree. Lance could have been talking about both of his brothers in Vice City. And, we don`t know how Pete treated Lance. Maybe both Pete and Vic treated him like a peace of sh*t he is.

 

About that Fake Accent, that`s just stupid. If that`s someones voice it`s Pete`s voice, not some fake accent.

 

My topic is better. I started it first.

[humancorpse]

That's a good point, though I get the impression that Lance is talking about the same brother troughtout the game as the one who dies in the deal,. which is the only one Tommy should have any knowledge about. I'll agree that this isn't a very strong point though.

 

As for Pete treating Lance like sh*t too, I think that sounds abit weird in this context. The fact that he treated Lance like a kid is pretty much the only personality description we hear about Lance's brother in VC. I'd say they had this in mind when they designed Victor's charachter for VCS.

Edited April 5, 2007 by humancorpse

[vettefan88]

Rockstar wouldn't want Victor to be in VCS with a South American accent. They took that out since he wasn't a major character in Vice City. Vice City Stories wasn't the first time Victor was seen or metioned anywhere. He was on the Vice City official website for gosh sakes. If Pete died in the deal, then his name would've been up there, Victor's wouldn't, and he probably wouldn't even be the protagonist in VCS.

OMG! Drop the F******) website already!

get this througth your F****** skull! they would list the major member of a gang, not some pawn in a drug deal. it was pete's first deal, so why would he get acknowledged, he's jsut some low-level gang member. Vic was the leader, of course he'd get mentioned. it makes perfect sense how it is, and you need ot drop that ridiculous argument! you sound like an idiot everytime you use it as your defense!

[Rashon.]

Rockstar wouldn't want Victor to be in VCS with a South American accent. They took that out since he wasn't a major character in Vice City. Vice City Stories wasn't the first time Victor was seen or metioned anywhere. He was on the Vice City official website for gosh sakes. If Pete died in the deal, then his name would've been up there, Victor's wouldn't, and he probably wouldn't even be the protagonist in VCS.

OMG! Drop the F******) website already!

get this througth your F****** skull! they would list the major member of a gang, not some pawn in a drug deal. it was pete's first deal, so why would he get acknowledged, he's jsut some low-level gang member. Vic was the leader, of course he'd get mentioned. it makes perfect sense how it is, and you need ot drop that ridiculous argument! you sound like an idiot everytime you use it as your defense!

You don't get it. The website lists everyone that was mentioned or seen in the game. If Pete was seen or mentioned in the game, then his name would've been up there.

[B0bby]

my cousin has an interesting theory. he believes that victor and BJ smith are the same person, and that vic changed his name to bj smith, got a new career, and left lance and pete to deal drugs.

 

i personaly thing thats a load of crap, but you never know.

 

however i do think that it was vic that was killed in vc

[Durham_Lad]

I think this ending answers all questions and eliminates the possibility that it was Vic who was killed

 

 

 

Listen carefully to what is said at the begining and in the ending

Edited April 13, 2007 by Durham_Lad

[MrMagic50]

i dont agree with u. at the end of vcs lance tells vic that he has 2000 key's of coke to sell and he has a buyer. vic says that they should lie low for a while and then sell it. in the two years it takes to sset up the deal with Sonny Forelli and Tommy Vercetti they can get enough money from their empire to run Vice

[TommyV15]

This is the most pointless topic of all pointless topics. Vic dies in vice city, you people who claim it's lances other brother are fools. If vic didn't die in vice city, he would BE in vice city. Their would be missions where Tommy, Vic and Lance would be working together, because in VCS, lance and vic were a team. It was Vic, he dies in Vice city, but he gets his moment of undeserved glory in VCS.

[Gman8]

Just because Pete was not on the board doesn't mean he couldn't have been killed in VC. It could have also been Vic.

 

With that said, the answer to this question will probably never be known.

[hye4life]

Also, during VC, Lance keeps complaining about how is brothre used to threat him like kid. VCS was made after this, and they made Vic fit this description.

 

But anyway, why do we need another topic on this when we've already got one on the same page?

yea its kinda confusing

[.:Alex:.]

The Official Vice City Website says that the man who works with Lance in Vice City is Victor Vance. Besides, it has to be Vic in Vice City or they wouldn't re-use him in VCS would they? Not to mention that Pete can't go around dealing drugs if he has medical problems.

[Good Daddy]

i read in wikipedia that it is vic that dies in the drug deal in vc.dont believe me go to wikipedia and search up Victor Vance

[Justin]

i read in wikipedia that it is vic that dies in the drug deal in vc.dont believe me go to wikipedia and search up Victor Vance

Wikipedia is user edited. In this case, its contents are meaningless and not backed up by fact.

[Mr Benz]

I wondered about this one. I personally think that Vic is dead by 1986 (though it pains me to say it). To be honest I was kinda moved when Louise died and although we know that Vic stayed in VC (Hey, the game continus after the last mission) I think he probably got demoralised and ended up dead. Lance was so much cooler in VC, and I reckon it's because Vic wasn't around to keep him in check.

 

As to whether it was Vic in the opening scene in VCS, I really don't think so.

[BixDugan]

In any case, Lance must've found a very good re-hab clinic in the 2 years following VCS. No sign of his habit are seen in VC. Except crossing Tommy. That was suicidal!