Rashon. Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 I know you say that Rockstar may have intended for Victor to be the killed brother at the drug deal but I find it a bull statement that Rockstar would suddenly try to change the killed brother from Victor to Pete. We don't know what Pete looks like but the comparisions of Victor of VCS and VC aren't completely different. I know they're only games but I'm trying to make some points here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrbabbitt Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Personally, i think you are reading too much into what Lance says in the beginning of Vice city, mentioning to Tommy vercetti that he wants his "brother's money and white lady". Think of it this way, since we all can see that there is a visible difference between Victor and the person in the opening cutscene in Vice City, could it have been possible that Lance was referring to his "brother" as slang for his current new partner, trying to sell off the drugs and not his "blood-brother"? Look in a different context of the phrase "my Brother" hmm, something to ponder???? just food for thought....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topdogkiller Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 I know a lot of people was talking the almost same about this but, how can u say that Victor was killed in Vice City if Lance never mentioned his brother`s name, and in VCS they talk a lot about their third brother Pete who has asthma. In the end of game Victor sais he`ll never deal drugs again, and Lance is talking about those 20k from first Vice City in 1986. The guy at the bigining of Vice City is small, and fat, he loks like he could have asthma, he`s short, he has different voice and accent, and personality. Vic was in the army, he is disciplened> so he could never get fat >unlike Tony Cipriani< Rockstar never killed any protagonist, so i don`t think they would kill Vic. There is even more but i can`t realy write down everything. Conclusion> Pete Vance was the one who got shot neer thought of that, your theory seem possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vettefan88 Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 I know you say that Rockstar may have intended for Victor to be the killed brother at the drug deal but I find it a bull statement that Rockstar would suddenly try to change the killed brother from Victor to Pete. We don't know what Pete looks like but the comparisions of Victor of VCS and VC aren't completely different. I know they're only games but I'm trying to make some points here. you don't know what pete looks like, but you do know what vic looks like. and the character at the beginning of VC is NOT vic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelegendaryX Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 I know you say that Rockstar may have intended for Victor to be the killed brother at the drug deal but I find it a bull statement that Rockstar would suddenly try to change the killed brother from Victor to Pete. We don't know what Pete looks like but the comparisions of Victor of VCS and VC aren't completely different. I know they're only games but I'm trying to make some points here. you don't know what pete looks like, but you do know what vic looks like. and the character at the beginning of VC is NOT vic. I'm gonna laugh my ass off if Pete and Vic turn up to be twins! (Unless somebody knows their ages..?) I think there are stronger reasons for it being Vic than Pete, sorry.. All this "Vic said he was through" stuff doesn't cut it because, as much as we all hate to admit it, Lance had Vic to command at all times! Even if most of you said it WAS Pete, I'd still disagree because that's not what I want to believe. Just like each of you I have a preference and I'm standing by it until absolutely PROVEN wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humancorpse Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 things can change in the game world. R* changed their plans. get over it already. Exactly, things can change in a video game, INCLUDING charachter appearance. Again, I am not saying there's no way that it could be Pete who was killed, but it seems very unlikely to me. But I dubt we will every get any conformation on this topic anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creed Bratton Posted April 3, 2007 Author Share Posted April 3, 2007 If VCS was never relised, we would never find out about any of Lance`s brothers. In Vice City we knew about one. But suddenly, in VCS we meet one and hear about other one. Isn`t it logical that we actually met Pete in the begining of VC, and we met Victor in VCS, so now we know everybody exept their aunt. As for mr. Tony Cipriani, my bad. But they still have SIMILAR VOICE and aperance, like all the other re-apered characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenteus Maximus Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 I would like to think that Vic is still alive after VC but i'm going to play devil's advocate for a second and mention the fact that Rockstar did kill off one of my favorite main character allies in LCS: Avery Carrington. That was kind of an unexpected surprise so who is to say they wouldn't kill the player character of VCS as another random surprise like that? I hope it isn't true but its something to think about. R.I.P. Avery Carrington. Wheeling, dealing and driving down real estate prices with good ol' fashioned gang wars in a better place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rashon. Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 If VCS was never relised, we would never find out about any of Lance`s brothers. In Vice City we knew about one. But suddenly, in VCS we meet one and hear about other one. Isn`t it logical that we actually met Pete in the begining of VC, and we met Victor in VCS, so now we know everybody exept their aunt. As for mr. Tony Cipriani, my bad. But they still have SIMILAR VOICE and aperance, like all the other re-apered characters. Have you read any of my posts? It seems my points aren't getting across. I previously said that on the Vice City website, it listed every character that was seen or heard about in the game. Victor was never mentioned by name in Vice City, but he was on the website and he was the one who was killed at the drug deal. If Victor wasn't seen or mentioned in Vice City, he wouldn't be on the website. Again, Pete's name was never seen on the Crime Tree so he was never seen or mentioned in the game. Lance always refered to Victor as his brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grove4Lyfe Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 (edited) I actually think it could be pete at the beginning of vice city. since R* didn't have any plans of a vice city stories at the time of vice city they probably made the game with the idea that the brother at the beginning was vic. But when the diea for the "stories" games came around they changed their mind, and decided that the brother killed in the beginning would be "pete". Why else would pete even be mentioned? if he had no part at all in the game why even bring him up? and why bring him up in an offshoot of VC? because R* wanted to change the idea that Vic died in the beginning, and instead change it to the formerely unknown brother pete. It does not matter if they mention him. It doesn't mean Pete has to be shown. He was part of the VCS storyline. Why did Vic need money so badly? Because Pete was very ill. Pete was someone to help create a storyline. Look at all these characters in the GTA series that you did missions for, talked to, or were mentioned, but were not shown in the actual game. D-Ice of the Redjacks- You did missions for D-Ice but talked to him over the phone only. Queen Lizzy- I don't even know who this person is. I forget if you take missions for her or what, but he/she is another character who is only menttioned. He/She is the reason why Diabloz and Yardies are at war. Because Diabloz dissed her. El Burro- You do side missions for this guy in GTA 3. The Thing is you only talk to him over the phone. You can see him on pictures and loading screens, but you don't see him in actual game play. Pete can be one of those characters that help out the storyline. And looking at how you can't see him in pictures, loading screens, crime lord bulletin board, or in the history of these gangs listed in wikipedia (The link is below) most likely means he was just there to be apart of the storyline. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gangs...ce_Crime_Family Edited April 3, 2007 by Grove4Lyfe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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