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[Jonesizzle]

Well, sh*t. BoB Odd Future/Tyler diss.

 

 

 

It's a pretty dope track, but not really all that insulting or anything.

 

 

Whoa. I Don't Think The 'No Future' Song Is Even A Diss. But, Ive Never Heard Him Spit Like That. Took Me By Surprise, Cus Its Tight

"can't see me unless ya gotta telescope"

 

Honestly, never listened to B.o.B, but that was the sh*t right there. That was a diss.

[Skins]

Two beats I've made recently...

 

Ultramatum

 

Swine

 

and this song if pretty tight even though I don't really like Vast Aire

 

 

[GTA The Mobster]

 

Cypress Hill_Lowrider

[El Zilcho]

Just went out and got the slaughterhouse ep and yelawolfs trunk musik.

f*ck yes. Slaughterhouse is where it's at.

 

 

[Skins]

 

 

so f*cking dope.

[Mati]

The Game makes best diss tracks IMO.

 

And he's so f*cking real (I don't mean no sarcasm)

[Jonesizzle]

He only disses G-UNot, it got old real quick. They would beef, then go to charity and hug, beef again, then kiss. Doesn't make sense. Publicity.

 

Been bumpin' Big L

 

 

[Loch Dawg]

 

 

This is mixtape rules, it's got a remix of MF Doom as well.

[gamesguru]

A free LP from Big K.R.I.T, ReturnOf4Eva, is out now. I've already listened to a couple of tracks from this, and it sounds like it is gonna be dope. But you shouldn't expect less from Big K.R.I.T...

 

 

Big K.R.I.T. - ReturnOf4Eva
1. Dreamin (clean version) 2. Dreamin (dirty version) 3. American Rapstar (clean version) 4. American Rapstar (dirty version) 5. R4 Intro 6. Rise and Shine 7. R4 Theme Song 8. Dreamin’ 9. Rotation 10. My Sub 11. Sookie Now (feat. David Banner) 12. American Rapstar 13. Highs & Lows 14. Shake It (feat. Joi) 15. Made Alot (feat. BIg Sant) 16. Lions and Lambs 17. King’s Blues 18. Time Machine (feat. Chamillionaire) 19. Get Right 20. Amtrak 21. Players Ballad (feat. Raheem Devaughn) 22. Another Naive Individual Glorifying Greed and Ecouraging Racism 23. Free My Soul 24. The Vent 25. Country sh*t (Remix) (Feat. Ludacris & Bun B)
Download

 

I don't know if any of you visit the KanyeToThe forums? I was checking out a few topics there (as I tend to do every once in a while to see if if I can find any gems of info), and I came across this topic. One of the members there, Scarves, works (and has friends) within the music industry, and has leaked many things including: Distant Relatives and Stronger (the Kanye track). But that isn't what's interesting. Scarves and Koolo got into a 'war of words. Scarves seems like a cool dude (despite the leaking...), and it looks like he knows what he is doing also. He mentioned how Mr. Prescription was over a year old and that wasn't going to be on Detox. He even showed some messages by Koolo asking for people to come forward with tracks he can buy (although we know he does/did this anyway). As you know Koolo is having a 'break', and he has also took his Twitter account down. But it was strangely after this incident; so I don't think we will be seeing Koolo leaking for a long time. Good for the artists. All the pieces of the puzzle are somewhat in that topic.

 

Additionally: unreleased Budden and unreleased Lupe ft B.o.B.

[Cheat]

The only things I knew of Big K.R.I.T were that he's a producer-rapper and he's featured on the 2011 XXL Freshman Class.

I looked a few tracks up on YouTube and they sound hella right, definetly downloading.

 

Oh, and a question - does hi produce his own tracks, especially those on the tape? 'Cause he's spitting on some mad beats.

 

And that boy Scarves seems to really know his game, and definetly know stuff we all don't. Never heard of him before, nor the forums, but I think I'll stay tuned on that forum from now on.

 

 

 

New Mac Miller here.

[gamesguru]

K.R.I.T. produces all of his tracks, including on this tape and on K.R.I.T. Wuz Here. I need to listen to more Mac Miller, I've only listened to a few tracks, but they haven't been to my personal preference. Although I can't hate on any up and comer doing their thing. That beat is kinda chill though.

[Cheat]

K.R.I.T. produces all of his tracks, including on this tape and on K.R.I.T. Wuz Here. I need to listen to more Mac Miller, I've only listened to a few tracks, but they haven't been to my personal preference. Although I can't hate on any up and comer doing their thing. That beat is kinda chill though.

Aight, thanks, that's always a major plus to me.

 

Yeah, you should, check out the material on K.I.D.S, I think that's his best, a tad better than the new mixtape, not saying it's any bad.

I hear a lot of people blaming him for imitating Wiz but I personally don't (want to?) hear that, no matter what he still goes hard in the end, so does it really matter? Dunno.

[Claude4Catalina]

Well, sh*t. BoB Odd Future/Tyler diss.

 

 

 

It's a pretty dope track, but not really all that insulting or anything.

 

 

Whoa. I Don't Think The 'No Future' Song Is Even A Diss. But, Ive Never Heard Him Spit Like That. Took Me By Surprise, Cus Its Tight

flow was terrible

beat was generic.

OFWGKTA will tear Bobby Ray to pieces, f*ck, Tyler will probably make references to metophorically raping B.o.B.

this is what the hip hop industry needs, I mean B.o.B is hardly gonna pull out a piece and blast Odd Future, he's some fa**ot that got to where he is thanks to T.I., who in the UK is considered a one hit wonder for 'Live Your Life'; nobody paying any mind to his older material or anything else on Paper Trail, maybe an OFWGKTA/B.o.B. beef will make people realize that B.o.B. isn't hip hop in the slightest, he's become a sellout whore who writes pop lyrics to an obscure 'hip hop' beat.

[gamesguru]

Why does a music orientated beef have to equal to physical altercations and violence? You are implying that an artist who is less likely to pull a 'piece' is less talented and not as worthy to be in their position they are in within music. It is what Hip-Hop needs? I'm sorry but I'd rather live with an artist like B.o.B then someone like yourself glorifying violence. I mean, seriously!? He is never gonna shoot anyone, so he must be a fa**ot, and is definitely not Hip-Hop. How ignorant and anti-progressive is that? I highly doubt Tyler would shoot anyone sometime soon either. Considering his background. Learn to separate musical content from actual life. Only because Tyler talks about rape and violence in his music, doesn't mean that is his lifestyle is similar to it. I.E. being more likely to shoot Bobby Ray than vice versa.

 

As for T.I. being the reason for Bobby Ray being in the position he is in, please do your research. It may have helped, but 2007 on wards Bobby Ray was on the road to success regardless, and the album itself was the reason he is in the position where he is at. Bruno Mars is more accountable for Bobby Ray's success than T.I. was and will ever be. Even so, why should that matter? You are implying that, that should detract from artists themselves. If many had opportunities to get more recognition, they are going to take it. Just because The Adventures of Bobby Ray was a popular mainstream album that was as much as Pop as it was Hip-Hop doesn't mean it was a bad album. It was solid. Sure it wasn't great, but it isn't the pile of sh*t many of the ignorant portion of Hip-Hop purists make it.

 

Besides his album, a lot of Bobby's guest features and mixtape tracks are definitely heavily southern Hip-Hop influenced. T.I was far from a one-hit wonder in the UK as well. He may not have huge success here, but again, why should that detract from an artist? The is contradictive outlook when comparing quality, sales and the industry workings. Many big American rap artists have and have had very little success here in the UK, not just T.I. Before Live Your Life, Swagga Like Us did well, and as did Why You Wanna. Dead & Gone peaked at #4 in the charts; and that was after Live Your Life.

 

Besides, there most probably wouldn't be a 'beef'. Bobby Ray basically implied that he wasn't taking it too seriously on his Twitter, and Tyler seems to be the same. I wouldn't be surprised if they met one another, and maybe even did a track in the future. I find that more likely.

[Kippers]

meh, I like B.o.B

[Claude4Catalina]

-massave essay-

a beef doesn't equate to an altercation, what I'm getting at is that Bobby Ray is far from the normal 'gangsta' image of rap, yet he's classified as rap despite releasing alot of 'pop sounding' tracks, the lyrical content of what he releases is what makes him a fa**ot. look at Ja Rule, alot of hardcore lyrics with drug references, yet he's faded.

 

admittedy I haven't listened to the entirety of The Adventures of Bobby Ray, and I wouldn't chose too. I'm being pretty damn biased because I dislike B.o.B., simply because when I first heard of him, my initial thought was: "another mainstream artist that I can live with listenting to on the radio, hopefully similar to TI", then he comes along with this pop bullsh*t? but the point remains, after 'Live Your Life', TI seemed to fade in the UK, I know of people who reference 'Dead and Gone' as Justin Timberlake ft TI, which pisses me off even more as a TI fan. what annoys me is how people will say TI is an idiot for getting caught trying to buy firearms without knowing the story behind it, which granted anyone trying to buy illegal firearms is obviously at risk of getting caught, but Lil Wayne gets caught with a .40 and serves 2 thirds of his jail sentence, and these same people say he's a 'better person' for serving his time.

 

I'm gonna stop now before I go far off what we we're talking about and go into a rant about what I think is wrong about music; I'll just stick with my OFWGKTA and Mikill Pane.

[Cheat]

 

Why does a music orientated beef have to equal to physical altercations and violence? You are implying that an artist who is less likely to pull a 'piece' is less talented and not as worthy to be in their position they are in within music. It is what Hip-Hop needs? I'm sorry but I'd rather live with an artist like B.o.B then someone like yourself glorifying violence. I mean, seriously!? He is never gonna shoot anyone, so he must be a fa**ot, and is definitely not Hip-Hop. How ignorant and anti-progressive is that? I highly doubt Tyler would shoot anyone sometime soon either. Considering his background. Learn to separate musical content from actual life. Only because Tyler talks about rape and violence in his music, doesn't mean that is his lifestyle is similar to it. I.E. being more likely to shoot Bobby Ray than vice versa.

 

As for T.I. being the reason for Bobby Ray being in the position he is in, please do your research. It may have helped, but 2007 on wards Bobby Ray was on the road to success regardless, and the album itself was the reason he is in the position where he is at. Bruno Mars is more accountable for Bobby Ray's success than T.I. was and will ever be. Even so, why should that matter? You are implying that, that should detract from artists themselves. If many had opportunities to get more recognition, they are going to take it. Just because The Adventures of Bobby Ray was a popular mainstream album that was as much as Pop as it was Hip-Hop doesn't mean it was a bad album. It was solid. Sure it wasn't great, but it isn't the pile of sh*t many of the ignorant portion of Hip-Hop purists make it.

 

Besides his album, a lot of Bobby's guest features and mixtape tracks are definitely heavily southern Hip-Hop influenced. T.I was far from a one-hit wonder in the UK as well. He may not have huge success here, but again, why should that detract from an artist? The is contradictive outlook when comparing quality, sales and the industry workings. Many big American rap artists have and have had very little success here in the UK, not just T.I. Before Live Your Life, Swagga Like Us did well, and as did Why You Wanna. Dead & Gone peaked at #4 in the charts; and that was after Live Your Life.

 

Besides, there most probably wouldn't be a 'beef'. Bobby Ray basically implied that he wasn't taking it too seriously on his Twitter, and Tyler seems to be the same. I wouldn't be surprised if they met one another, and maybe even did a track in the future. I find that more likely.

Treated.

 

Hell, this point of view is exactly what we do not need in hip-hop - for sure, back in the ol' good times emcees used to rhyme about bustin' caps, but they did it because they spat about what they saw in their enviroment, not because they thought it would award them with more recognition.

 

I've seen pictures of Tyler the Creator "tooled up", and even without knowing the actuality and past of the pictures, I've got to admit they have strenghtened Tyler's image in my eyes but still, that does not equal to anything regarding rap or hip hop.

 

Besides, if you are (like it seems you are) trying to betoken your "loyalty" to Odd Future or Tyler, I believe Tyler's response to "No Future" was "it's tight". Probably still doesn't mean he appreciates the song but has the balls to admit and give his personal honest opinion about it.

 

PS. I'm a fan of the both. So don't go there.

 

EDIT: Oh sh*t, you re-responsed. Didn't see that.

 

Okay, so first off. An artist shouldn't be classified a rapper because he doesn't put out a "gangster" image? f*ck. Outta. Here.

Also - I haven't listened to much Ja Rule, for the record - without having the ability to answer to Ja Rule being "faded out", you think an artist should not get recognition if they refer to drugs or the usage of them in their songs? What the f*ck is the point here, for real!?

 

You must be f*ckin' kidding me, honestly. Like, what the f*ck?

Where have you been taught that an rapper should use or especially brag about using drugs? Without representing my personal view on drugs here, I'd like to see evidence of this.

 

Besides, think about how many rappers out there stay respected and "real" without talking about drugs? How about Lupe Fiasco spitting "I don't get high", how about Jazzy Jeff's "King Heroin"? How about Run-DMC, De La Soul and Public Enemy all critisizing the usage of drugs?

 

Get back to school, fo' real.

Edited March 29, 2011 by Cheat

[gamesguru]

Fair do.

Although Rap has come far from its Gangsta image. Nowadays I think it is rather versatile, although for me the main projection of Hip-Hop is still rather negative. Partially due to the fact that most of the more popular songs consist of: bragging, money, materialism, 'hoes', etc. I don't think lyrical content should decided whether something is Rap or not, as that is restrictive and somewhat bias in my opinion. Even if you feel it makes them a 'fa**ot' for example. One of the joys of music is its expression; the freedom to say what you want to say. But of course, not everyone will enjoy everything. But that is what makes many artists and listeners unique. It's the same reason some people hate Odd Future for their over-the-top grotesque content, whereas others like it (I personally love Odd Future now). The same goes for love/relationship based Hip-Hop music. I'm very open and even enjoy music that is supposedly 'for the ladies'.

 

But your opinion of B.o.B's album is yours. I can understand partially why someone would not like it. Although I still feel the use of the word 'fa**ot' is a little strong.

Edited March 29, 2011 by gamesguru

[Claude4Catalina]

I'm not saying drugs is what defines a musician, but it's seemingly become a part of the subculture of hip hop, and I was drawing comparisions of how B.o.B. is known for being clean cut and mass produced, whereas Ja Rule, no matter how much of SugeKnight's meat puppet he was, was known for being fairly angst-y and on edge, the polar opposite to B.o.B.'s party tracks.

 

drugs in music never really ends well, look at the likes of Marvin Gaye.

 

on the subject of Marvin, check out 'Marvin' by B. Dolan, not sure if this has already been mentioned, but he's Sage Francis's labelmate, and my God does he have a hell of a voice!

[Jonesizzle]

 

These guys don't wanna 'beef'. Although, it adds entertainment to the rap game and it shows who is really the best lyrically. Its competion, and unfortunately the competition we have now is mainstream vs. underground which really isn't a fair fight. I don't wish for motherf*ckers pulling out guns and killing each other, but lyrically, I wouldn't mind.

 

 

peep out this guys instrumentals. dude is sick.

[Mr.Mister]

Man ive been looking for this one for such a long time.

 

 

[El Zilcho]

[meta187]

 

 

 

Catch this one. ^

 

 

 

Love the loop on this.

 

 

 

Some good ol'Mixtape type sh*t.

 

 

[Kippers]

Check this, I think i've just fallen in love with this Mixtape:

 

DJ Alexei presents - Drake x The Fugees - Drizzy Settles The Score

 

The 2 make a surprisingly good combo imo. Especially the new 'Forever' remix. If mainstream beats were like that, life would be amazing.

[Suihkubad]

New Dj Quik

 

Sounds so f*cking fresh I smiled. And the new album will be released 420

[El Zilcho]

Going to see Nas in Manchester tomorrow! Can't wait

[gizmo]

back onto BIG KRIT, yall need to listen to his stuff man. he is a beast. back when i was djing he'd send me a lot of stuff 3 or 4 years ago. it just goes to show u that u REALLY need to work hard to make it in the industry.

 

3 or 4 years ago he was GOOD and now he is a ROOKIE? i mean cmon he's been rappin longer than a year just the whole nation hadn't heard of him.

 

now they have and they need to listen coz he got FIRE

[Mister Pink]

Going to see Nas in Manchester tomorrow! Can't wait

Sweet. Should be a good one..

 

 

 

[Mr.Mister]

[Kippers]

This video is from a few years back (2009) but I found it pretty damn hilarious. I found it whilst reading about HipHopDx's april fools article about Snoops new collaboration with Charlie Sheen.

 

 

Korn - Twisted Transistor ft Snoop Dogg, Xzibit and Lil Jon in the video.

 

 

 

Pretty good Korn track as well. I don't know why I hadn't heard about it before.

Edited April 2, 2011 by kippers.