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Jordan

Sony Talks GTA IV (03/09/07)

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Note: This is real GTA IV news...not mindless speculation. Rate this topic as 'Good' so it doesn't fall between the cracks!

 

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Sony's British corporate executive and representative director Phil Harrison was the first Sony rep to finally talk about why Grand Theft Auto IV is not a Sony exclusive to the PS3. Here is the story:

 

 

Harrison made it plain that the PS3 was not currently suitable to be an exclusive home to a premiere installment like GTA IV.  "I don't think PS3 has the install base to support Rockstar's investment in GTA IV on its own," Harrison told the assembled blogging crew. Rockstar needs a giant audience to see a return on what is likely a massive investment, and the current installed PS3 user base simply isn't big enough. If they want to sell plenty of copies, it needs to be available on the 360 as well, but this clearly means things could change in the future.

http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/931.html

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deathdealer

intresting stuff jordan. well, exclusive or not, gta 4 will be big.

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Blind Joe Death
Does this mean that the PS3 version of GTAIV will be any different from the XBOX360 version? Well I hope not.

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IslandLee

No doubt that R* has invested a lot of resources of creating GTAIV. This will be one of the greatest games ever.

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Forelli_Boy

No biggie, it means R* can venture into a market with the most potential to expand and at the same time have the vast base of 360 sales to fall back upon in case of failure. Either way, it will be great success. biggrin.gif

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It makes sense to release it on both consoles at the same time. PS3 owners will be happy for X360 owners and vice versa. For the future I think like this: If the PS3 gives GTA the oportunity to be SIGNIFICANTLY better than on the Xbox, then going PS3 exclusive would be good for GTA. But I think the game will sell good on the xbox and Rockstar are going to be releasing their future games in a similar fashion. I guess we'll see.

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It makes sense to release it on both consoles at the same time. PS3 owners will be happy for X360 owners and vice versa. For the future I think like this: If the PS3 gives GTA the oportunity to be SIGNIFICANTLY better than on the Xbox, then going PS3 exclusive would be good for GTA. But I think the game will sell good on the xbox and Rockstar are going to be releasing their future games in a similar fashion. I guess we'll see.

i personally think that once PS3 owners are within sight of XB360 owners, in matters of numbers and such, that GTA games will be PS3 exclusive, unless of course the XB720 or XBPremium or some crap like that comes out, since M$oft tends to release things fast with less development time than Sony.

 

one could say that the XB360 is the only 6th 1/2 gen console, because to me the defining Characteristic of 7th gen consoles is ultra high capacity disks STANDARD. Making PS3 the only 7th Gen system, the wii is so fifth gen its not even funny

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They are all 7th gen, only each in a different way. Wii is inovative (because thats what Nintendo does) and there will be some amazing games, Xbox is internet-centric (with Live and all that), and PS3 is the big machine that tries to do all those things (online, motion sensing, great hardware, HDMI 1.3,.....). It sure is going to be a great time for gamers. I think the PC lost its focus biggrin.gif

 

Nintendo prooves that photorealistic graphics are not important. Its the "design" of graphics. Nintendo could have gone and made the Wii faster, but thats not Nintendo. They have their own path and they know what they're doing.

 

We could say Wii is new-school and Xbxo360 and PS3 is oldschool continued. So "core" AKA "hardcore" or "general public" gamers (and teens high on hormones) will pick up PS3 or Xbox360.

 

I might be wrong biggrin.gif

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one could say that the XB360 is the only 6th 1/2 gen console, because to me the defining Characteristic of 7th gen consoles is ultra high capacity disks STANDARD. Making PS3 the only 7th Gen system, the wii is so fifth gen its not even funny

Yes the new gen is all about the graphics dozingoff.gif

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Mike0

In any way Nintendo will do just fine. They will find their buyers. And indeed they have sold many Wiis.

 

Just watch the Nintendo Keynote:

 

here

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We could say Wii is new-school and Xbxo360 and PS3 is oldschool continued. So "core" AKA "hardcore" or "general public" gamers (and teens high on hormones) will pick up PS3 or Xbox360.

Let's be honest here the vast majority of the 4.5m wii owners are under 10 years old. Let's not beat around the bush... it's not an all round non-gamers console it's for little kids who are too young to apprieciate a real console as their parents wouldn't waste $500+ on them to play disney/pixar sh!t and mario-esque-clones.

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totti868

does this mean gta iv for will be better on xbox 360? i am confused should i buy xbox 360 or ps3 for gta iv???

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Yeah, this all makes sense. Like somone else said the resourses gone into this game would be phenomenal. Also the capital. I'll say the game maybe much longer and will have double the radio content/licensed music. I't's all down to money. Rockstar need to make such a return in the first week or someone will get fired. OK maybe it's not as bad Paramount or Fox and someone won't get fired but you catch my drift.

 

 

@vcPINK: No, I don't think Rockstar will go back from releasing GTA IV on 360 abd PS3 to just one console. Thats not really progress. It's not gonna expand, then narrow down business. I think Rockstar want to go into serious business and just Hi-jack the market with their greatness.

 

 

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The face of console gaming and gaming in general has changed, more and more games are going cross-platform even initially stated exclusives because it simply makes more sense from a business point of view. Makes more money this way.

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does this mean gta iv for will be better on xbox 360? i am confused should i buy xbox 360 or ps3 for gta iv???

the press release mentioned on the first page is saying that the reason why GTAIV isn't going to be "Sony has it on 16October2007, Microsoft has it on 15March2008" because Rockstar doesn't want 12million copies of GTAIV sitting in the warehouse because there aren't enough people with a PS3 to make it exclusive to them, and as ThePinkFlyodSound said, there needs to be a larger number of people buying the game and, Microsofts 10 million XB360 consoles sitting in people homes all around the world allows for the number of games sold to be maximized, but other than the fact that PS3 supports 1080p and XB360 only supports 1080i there is no difference in the way you should see or feel the game, but one might miss the rumble, because PS3 has no rumblees, XB360 does

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If you were R* wouldn't you rather release the product on as many consoles possible? It's more money, it informs them on how much better it is selling on which console, so it's a really smart decision.

 

Personally I am waiting for the PS3 release, I want to play it with a PS control pad, and I am look forward to the PS3 more than the XBOX360.

 

R* aren't messing about here, they want it released on both consoles naturally as it will run perfectly on both, so to not release on both would be idiotic. I'm thinking it will all boil down to what the episodic content will contain, because, as confirmed, it will not be the same, both systems will have different content, and if it's more powerful then maybe the content will be more advanced on the PS3.

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The issue is this: Most people when they buy a console, they buy ONE, so they have to think carefully how that console will do in the future. (ofcourse they can change the console whenever they want). So the dilema with GTA IV will maybe be:

 

Imagine that GTA IV on the PS3 has better graphics, but the consoles will have different episodic content. That would be a mess for real GTA fans if they wanted to play all the episodes. But I guess we will see.

 

I think for those who dont yet own any of the consoles and plan on buying them, to wait out untill October and see how everything stands with the graphics, gameplay, and episodic differences. And then choose. But there is that special feeling with the PS3 that you're playing it on the "right" system, since III started with the PS2.

 

But if they somehow mess up the PS3 version or something that would be a bad mess and I wouldnt like it biggrin.gif , because I want GTA IV to rule on the PS3 and crush Microsoft hehe.

 

 

In the previous gen, Rockstar made GTA III a timed exclusive for the PS2 and alot of people bought a PS2 because of that.

 

But now it comes out on both and alot of people are confused: will the GTA after the IV be exclusive for Xbox or PS3 or also simultaneous? That is the dilema. The safest way is to wait until october. Those of you who already own a PS3 or Xbox 360, you only have to wait for the game as you already made your console purchase biggrin.gif

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We could say Wii is new-school and Xbxo360 and PS3 is oldschool continued. So "core" AKA "hardcore" or "general public" gamers (and teens high on hormones) will pick up PS3 or Xbox360.

Let's be honest here the vast majority of the 4.5m wii owners are under 10 years old. Let's not beat around the bush... it's not an all round non-gamers console it's for little kids who are too young to apprieciate a real console as their parents wouldn't waste $500+ on them to play disney/pixar sh!t and mario-esque-clones.

That's the biggest load of dribble i've heard in my life. Don't say something unless you can back it up.

 

Let it said right now to end all this crap; The Wii has new innovative gameplay, the Xbox360 is the all rounder (It doesn't necessarily do anything new, but it almost everything well) and the PS3 is shown as the powerhouse and it's the hotbed for Sony's new format, and it brings a new way (albeit very much like the wii) of gameplay with SixAxis.

 

All consoles are next gen/7th gen and don't start crap saying otherwise.

 

The difference between the Xbox360 version and the PS3 version will be very little. IF ANYTHING, the 360 will have better looking graphics because the 360 is already into 2nd gen games and developers have had more time to work out kinks and most importantly more time to get more out of the system. The PS3 is also said to be harder to code for (And it's only in 1st gen of software), and therefore this most likely means it'll take longer and require more from developers to get more out of it.

 

Xbox360 games will almost always look better than PS3 games because the console has been out for longer and is always going to be 1 gen ahead when it comes to games (Not to mention the advantages in the GPU in the 360, that's a different story)

 

 

But now it comes out on both and alot of people are confused: will the GTA after the IV be exclusive for Xbox or PS3 or also simultaneous? That is the dilema. The safest way is to wait until october. Those of you who already own a PS3 or Xbox 360, you only have to wait for the game as you already made your console purchase biggrin.gif

 

People can read. It's being released on both 360 and PS3 on the same day, and we've known this for quite a while.

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RaQnaR0ck

One way or the other, i still wait for the PC version.

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Harrison made it plain that the PS3 was not currently suitable to be an exclusive home to a premiere installment like GTA IV.  "I don't think PS3 has the install base to support Rockstar's investment in GTA IV on its own," Harrison told the assembled blogging crew. Rockstar needs a giant audience to see a return on what is likely a massive investment, and the current installed PS3 user base simply isn't big enough. If they want to sell plenty of copies, it needs to be available on the 360 as well, but this clearly means things could change in the future.

Good info. I agree that is a wise decision from rahkstar2.gif . Lets just hope GTA 4 is excellent smile.gif

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does this mean gta iv for will be better on xbox 360? i am confused should i buy xbox 360 or ps3 for gta iv???

the press release mentioned on the first page is saying that the reason why GTAIV isn't going to be "Sony has it on 16October2007, Microsoft has it on 15March2008" because Rockstar doesn't want 12million copies of GTAIV sitting in the warehouse because there aren't enough people with a PS3 to make it exclusive to them, and as ThePinkFlyodSound said, there needs to be a larger number of people buying the game and, Microsofts 10 million XB360 consoles sitting in people homes all around the world allows for the number of games sold to be maximized, but other than the fact that PS3 supports 1080p and XB360 only supports 1080i there is no difference in the way you should see or feel the game, but one might miss the rumble, because PS3 has no rumblees, XB360 does

360 does support a full 1080p although not through HDMI but VGA, it was added with the latest update

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Good info Jordan, glad to hear that. A good move from Rockstar's side. Check.

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We could say Wii is new-school and Xbxo360 and PS3 is oldschool continued. So "core" AKA "hardcore" or "general public" gamers (and teens high on hormones) will pick up PS3 or Xbox360.

Let's be honest here the vast majority of the 4.5m wii owners are under 10 years old. Let's not beat around the bush... it's not an all round non-gamers console it's for little kids who are too young to apprieciate a real console as their parents wouldn't waste $500+ on them to play disney/pixar sh!t and mario-esque-clones.

That's the biggest load of dribble i've heard in my life. Don't say something unless you can back it up.

 

Let it said right now to end all this crap; The Wii has new innovative gameplay, the Xbox360 is the all rounder (It doesn't necessarily do anything new, but it almost everything well) and the PS3 is shown as the powerhouse and it's the hotbed for Sony's new format, and it brings a new way (albeit very much like the wii) of gameplay with SixAxis.

 

All consoles are next gen/7th gen and don't start crap saying otherwise.

 

The difference between the Xbox360 version and the PS3 version will be very little. IF ANYTHING, the 360 will have better looking graphics because the 360 is already into 2nd gen games and developers have had more time to work out kinks and most importantly more time to get more out of the system. The PS3 is also said to be harder to code for (And it's only in 1st gen of software), and therefore this most likely means it'll take longer and require more from developers to get more out of it.

 

Xbox360 games will almost always look better than PS3 games because the console has been out for longer and is always going to be 1 gen ahead when it comes to games (Not to mention the advantages in the GPU in the 360, that's a different story)

 

 

But now it comes out on both and alot of people are confused: will the GTA after the IV be exclusive for Xbox or PS3 or also simultaneous? That is the dilema. The safest way is to wait until october. Those of you who already own a PS3 or Xbox 360, you only have to wait for the game as you already made your console purchase biggrin.gif

 

People can read. It's being released on both 360 and PS3 on the same day, and we've known this for quite a while.

Listen to this guy. He hit the nail right on the head.

 

And let's not forget DVD-9 also won't limit GTA IV, because games as huge as Oblivion(which were originally on 4 DVD-9's) were compressed to fit on one disc, so surely GTA IV will have no problem being a huge map and still fitting on the disc.

 

Anyway, I can't stand the fact that anyone would want GTA IV to be a PS3 exclusive. Selfish fanboy bullsh*t. I'm gonna be there midnight, launch day, and I'm taking that game home and playing on my 360 all night. Why would some a-hole want me to wait a year or more before it comes out on my console? I'm glad it's a multi-plat, that's how it should be. And I can't wait for the PC release as well.

 

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Jordan

I still haven't made my mind up over the PS3 or Xbox 360. I won't be getting both, though.

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I still haven't made my mind up over the PS3 or Xbox 360. I won't be getting both, though.

What would you say would be the deciding factor?

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vcPINK

 

We could say Wii is new-school and Xbxo360 and PS3 is oldschool continued. So "core" AKA "hardcore" or "general public" gamers (and teens high on hormones) will pick up PS3 or Xbox360.

Let's be honest here the vast majority of the 4.5m wii owners are under 10 years old. Let's not beat around the bush... it's not an all round non-gamers console it's for little kids who are too young to apprieciate a real console as their parents wouldn't waste $500+ on them to play disney/pixar sh!t and mario-esque-clones.

That's the biggest load of dribble i've heard in my life. Don't say something unless you can back it up.

 

Let it said right now to end all this crap; The Wii has new innovative gameplay, the Xbox360 is the all rounder (It doesn't necessarily do anything new, but it almost everything well) and the PS3 is shown as the powerhouse and it's the hotbed for Sony's new format, and it brings a new way (albeit very much like the wii) of gameplay with SixAxis.

 

All consoles are next gen/7th gen and don't start crap saying otherwise.

 

The difference between the Xbox360 version and the PS3 version will be very little. IF ANYTHING, the 360 will have better looking graphics because the 360 is already into 2nd gen games and developers have had more time to work out kinks and most importantly more time to get more out of the system. The PS3 is also said to be harder to code for (And it's only in 1st gen of software), and therefore this most likely means it'll take longer and require more from developers to get more out of it.

 

Xbox360 games will almost always look better than PS3 games because the console has been out for longer and is always going to be 1 gen ahead when it comes to games (Not to mention the advantages in the GPU in the 360, that's a different story)

 

 

But now it comes out on both and alot of people are confused: will the GTA after the IV be exclusive for Xbox or PS3 or also simultaneous? That is the dilema. The safest way is to wait until october. Those of you who already own a PS3 or Xbox 360, you only have to wait for the game as you already made your console purchase biggrin.gif

 

People can read. It's being released on both 360 and PS3 on the same day, and we've known this for quite a while.

i smell Microsoft Fanboyism, developers have had the PS3 system for several months before the Japanese Release which adds even more time to the game development.

 

Here is my Slightly PS3 slanted Opinion:

 

look at the hardware specs and the differences between the 360 and the PS3, the only major differences are optical disk technology and the graphics technology, btw Side by Side the 360 and the PS3 are nearly identical in GPU power, and BTW the PS3 can give 1080p while 360 can only give 1080i, the PS3 has a better HD format, but since most consumers are still using lower end HDtvs and some old 480i/p systems(standard, non HD) tvs that won't even make a difference. the one only difference that counts is the storage capacity of the game disks, PS3 uses a better storage medium than the 360 for their game titles, because BluRay>DVD any day, the high capacity BluRay disk can hold much more data, and you can have higher resolution buildings because the textures can be more detailed when you have 50Gigabytes of space to use verses a DVD that only contains 9.3 Gigabytes for its disposal, and the fact that the 360 doesn't come standard with a Hard Disk Drive(the PS3 does) means that the 360 will either be forced to:

1) have lower quality graphics because Rockstar can't use 10 gigs of space to fill with textures on a DVD, and they can't make it a dual disk game that requires installing the game on the Hard Drive to get that extra space, or

2) have just as good graphics but require the user to have a Hard Drive installed and put the game data on the Hard Drive,

either way it doesn't mater how well the 360 can process the graphics and textures if Rockstar can't put the best textures on the game disk so the 360 can process them.

 

BTW i have both systems and i play the PS3 more because the graphics are better than the 360s

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We could say Wii is new-school and Xbxo360 and PS3 is oldschool continued. So "core" AKA "hardcore" or "general public" gamers (and teens high on hormones) will pick up PS3 or Xbox360.

Let's be honest here the vast majority of the 4.5m wii owners are under 10 years old. Let's not beat around the bush... it's not an all round non-gamers console it's for little kids who are too young to apprieciate a real console as their parents wouldn't waste $500+ on them to play disney/pixar sh!t and mario-esque-clones.

That's the biggest load of dribble i've heard in my life. Don't say something unless you can back it up.

 

Let it said right now to end all this crap; The Wii has new innovative gameplay, the Xbox360 is the all rounder (It doesn't necessarily do anything new, but it almost everything well) and the PS3 is shown as the powerhouse and it's the hotbed for Sony's new format, and it brings a new way (albeit very much like the wii) of gameplay with SixAxis.

 

All consoles are next gen/7th gen and don't start crap saying otherwise.

 

The difference between the Xbox360 version and the PS3 version will be very little. IF ANYTHING, the 360 will have better looking graphics because the 360 is already into 2nd gen games and developers have had more time to work out kinks and most importantly more time to get more out of the system. The PS3 is also said to be harder to code for (And it's only in 1st gen of software), and therefore this most likely means it'll take longer and require more from developers to get more out of it.

 

Xbox360 games will almost always look better than PS3 games because the console has been out for longer and is always going to be 1 gen ahead when it comes to games (Not to mention the advantages in the GPU in the 360, that's a different story)

 

 

But now it comes out on both and alot of people are confused: will the GTA after the IV be exclusive for Xbox or PS3 or also simultaneous? That is the dilema. The safest way is to wait until october. Those of you who already own a PS3 or Xbox 360, you only have to wait for the game as you already made your console purchase biggrin.gif

 

People can read. It's being released on both 360 and PS3 on the same day, and we've known this for quite a while.

i smell Microsoft Fanboyism, developers have had the PS3 system for several months before the Japanese Release which adds even more time to the game development.

 

Here is my Slightly PS3 slanted Opinion:

 

look at the hardware specs and the differences between the 360 and the PS3, the only major differences are optical disk technology and the graphics technology, btw Side by Side the 360 and the PS3 are nearly identical in GPU power, and BTW the PS3 can give 1080p while 360 can only give 1080i, the PS3 has a better HD format, but since most consumers are still using lower end HDtvs and some old 480i/p systems(standard, non HD) tvs that won't even make a difference. the one only difference that counts is the storage capacity of the game disks, PS3 uses a better storage medium than the 360 for their game titles, because BluRay>DVD any day, the high capacity BluRay disk can hold much more data, and you can have higher resolution buildings because the textures can be more detailed when you have 50Gigabytes of space to use verses a DVD that only contains 9.3 Gigabytes for its disposal, and the fact that the 360 doesn't come standard with a Hard Disk Drive(the PS3 does) means that the 360 will either be forced to:

1) have lower quality graphics because Rockstar can't use 10 gigs of space to fill with textures on a DVD, and they can't make it a dual disk game that requires installing the game on the Hard Drive to get that extra space, or

2) have just as good graphics but require the user to have a Hard Drive installed and put the game data on the Hard Drive,

either way it doesn't mater how well the 360 can process the graphics and textures if Rockstar can't put the best textures on the game disk so the 360 can process them.

 

BTW i have both systems and i play the PS3 more because the graphics are better than the 360s

I smell anal PS3 fanboyism on you, yet I see nothing fanboy-ish about Cran's post. Was he defending the 360? Yes. Was he acting like it was the best thing ever? No. He was using cold, hard, facts.

 

Think of it this way. You're a business (R*). You want to make money. You realize that if it comes out on PS3, then Xbox360 later, you will make less money. You then realize if they come out on each console at the same time, you make more money. Which are you going to do?

 

Hate to break it to you, but R* is a business; they're not doing it for us, they're doing it for the money.

 

And don't say something like "I have both consoles" because you have no proof, and that has nothing to do with the matter.

 

And who gives a flying f*ck about graphics? I'd rather play Super Mario World then some of the games I've seen on PS3, and when you're comparing graphics between those, it's really no competition. Good graphics are nice, but not as nice as good gameplay.

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I still haven't made my mind up over the PS3 or Xbox 360.  I won't be getting both, though.

What would you say would be the deciding factor?

For me, price probably. However, extra features may outweigh that for me. If GTA IV is online, Microsoft has the better and more established service going.

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Thanks for posting this info, Jordan. smile.gif

I read it on QJ a few hours ago but didn't think of doing anything with it.

 

Sony is really starting to turn around as I see it. Admitting to low sales, creating a cheaper (though for the company fund's sake) PS3 for Europe, and that free Home thing.

 

I'm very happy with my 360--but if I had an extra 200 dollars I would have baught a PS3. As I already own a PSP.

 

I do hope this fanboy sh*t stops. I'm a Sony-Microsoft guy so it's interesting to see what people have to say about their console. tounge.gif

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vcPINK

 

We could say Wii is new-school and Xbxo360 and PS3 is oldschool continued. So "core" AKA "hardcore" or "general public" gamers (and teens high on hormones) will pick up PS3 or Xbox360.

Let's be honest here the vast majority of the 4.5m wii owners are under 10 years old. Let's not beat around the bush... it's not an all round non-gamers console it's for little kids who are too young to apprieciate a real console as their parents wouldn't waste $500+ on them to play disney/pixar sh!t and mario-esque-clones.

That's the biggest load of dribble i've heard in my life. Don't say something unless you can back it up.

 

Let it said right now to end all this crap; The Wii has new innovative gameplay, the Xbox360 is the all rounder (It doesn't necessarily do anything new, but it almost everything well) and the PS3 is shown as the powerhouse and it's the hotbed for Sony's new format, and it brings a new way (albeit very much like the wii) of gameplay with SixAxis.

 

All consoles are next gen/7th gen and don't start crap saying otherwise.

 

The difference between the Xbox360 version and the PS3 version will be very little. IF ANYTHING, the 360 will have better looking graphics because the 360 is already into 2nd gen games and developers have had more time to work out kinks and most importantly more time to get more out of the system. The PS3 is also said to be harder to code for (And it's only in 1st gen of software), and therefore this most likely means it'll take longer and require more from developers to get more out of it.

 

Xbox360 games will almost always look better than PS3 games because the console has been out for longer and is always going to be 1 gen ahead when it comes to games (Not to mention the advantages in the GPU in the 360, that's a different story)

 

 

But now it comes out on both and alot of people are confused: will the GTA after the IV be exclusive for Xbox or PS3 or also simultaneous? That is the dilema. The safest way is to wait until october. Those of you who already own a PS3 or Xbox 360, you only have to wait for the game as you already made your console purchase biggrin.gif

 

People can read. It's being released on both 360 and PS3 on the same day, and we've known this for quite a while.

i smell Microsoft Fanboyism, developers have had the PS3 system for several months before the Japanese Release which adds even more time to the game development.

 

Here is my Slightly PS3 slanted Opinion:

 

look at the hardware specs and the differences between the 360 and the PS3, the only major differences are optical disk technology and the graphics technology, btw Side by Side the 360 and the PS3 are nearly identical in GPU power, and BTW the PS3 can give 1080p while 360 can only give 1080i, the PS3 has a better HD format, but since most consumers are still using lower end HDtvs and some old 480i/p systems(standard, non HD) tvs that won't even make a difference. the one only difference that counts is the storage capacity of the game disks, PS3 uses a better storage medium than the 360 for their game titles, because BluRay>DVD any day, the high capacity BluRay disk can hold much more data, and you can have higher resolution buildings because the textures can be more detailed when you have 50Gigabytes of space to use verses a DVD that only contains 9.3 Gigabytes for its disposal, and the fact that the 360 doesn't come standard with a Hard Disk Drive(the PS3 does) means that the 360 will either be forced to:

1) have lower quality graphics because Rockstar can't use 10 gigs of space to fill with textures on a DVD, and they can't make it a dual disk game that requires installing the game on the Hard Drive to get that extra space, or

2) have just as good graphics but require the user to have a Hard Drive installed and put the game data on the Hard Drive,

either way it doesn't mater how well the 360 can process the graphics and textures if Rockstar can't put the best textures on the game disk so the 360 can process them.

 

BTW i have both systems and i play the PS3 more because the graphics are better than the 360s

I smell anal PS3 fanboyism on you, yet I see nothing fanboy-ish about Cran's post. Was he defending the 360? Yes. Was he acting like it was the best thing ever? No. He was using cold, hard, facts.

 

Think of it this way. You're a business (R*). You want to make money. You realize that if it comes out on PS3, then Xbox360 later, you will make less money. You then realize if they come out on each console at the same time, you make more money. Which are you going to do?

 

Hate to break it to you, but R* is a business; they're not doing it for us, they're doing it for the money.

 

And don't say something like "I have both consoles" because you have no proof, and that has nothing to do with the matter.

 

And who gives a flying f*ck about graphics? I'd rather play Super Mario World then some of the games I've seen on PS3, and when you're comparing graphics between those, it's really no competition. Good graphics are nice, but not as nice as good gameplay.

i said before i went on my shpeel that i was slanted towards the PS3 but that is because i have both, i have played both, and my overall use has given it to me that the ps3 is moderately better

 

anyway, so i wasn't using facts when i pointed out that the two consoles are the same in almost every way shape and for, with exception to storage capacity which does play a major role in weather or not the graphics look as good as the designer wants or the system can handle, but i agree with you i would rather have Super Mario Brothers than Most of the games I've played, BUT the point i was trying to make in response to his point is that the PS3 can beat out the 360 in terms of system capabilities purely because the PS3 can use High Density Game Discs in the form of the BluRay Disk, and as my posts and my sig indicate: THE XBOX360 CONSOLES DO NOT USE HD-DVD GAME DISKS; which would actually provide for a better data storage method for the XB360.

 

I know that the big guys at Rockstar are releasing on both consoles at the same time to make as much money as they can, but that wasn't the question. The Question Was: Which console (if any) will give better game play, and the answer is Neither because rarely do Game developers utilize the full capacity of there current technological capabilities in terms of storage mediums and processing power, even though the ps2 had Dual layer DVD capabilities, many of the games released only used about half of what they could have, but the 360 is still stuck using DVDs for games, and since the PS3 uses a higher capacity disk the 360 version will be stuck using a DVD which i suspect will be completely filled if Rockstar wants any decent graphics on the 360, citing the textures part of my previous post, so even though the game experiences will be very similar, the ps3 has the capabilities to be better, and until Microsoft releases a 360 with HDDVD GAMING the ps3 is technically a better console, even though most of the things the two systems will do wont even be close to fully utilizing the full power of either system.

 

 

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i am basically trying to say that it doesn't matter which system you get, the only difference will be the ""exclusive episodic content"" that will be about as exclusive to the 360 as LCS and VCS were to the PSP, the content will eventually be available to the PS3, and i will bet money on that point. But it still doesn't matter because the content described will only be available to those people who have a Hard Drive installed on their 360!!!!! so please just shut the h3ll up about me being a fan boy, i love the fact that the XBOX was the first game console with a hard drive standard, sure you could put a HDD in the PS2s but that was too much hassle.

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I NEVER SAID THE 360 SUCKED nor did i say PS3 ROXX0R, M$ SUXX0R, i simply stated the facts and used my personal experience with both consoles and game MY EDUCATED OPINION, about which was ever so slightly better!

 

EDIT: i would like to add that you get what you pay for and the PS3 is more expensive.

 

god help the heathens who still think i'm a fanboy

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