The New Guitar Topic

[Slamman]

I'd get somethin' angular, the look alone inspires you to pick up and play it, it attracts the eye on stage as well. I just find Biches REALLY, really attractive. The RRhoads V is so much more comfy then the standard V, I owned both.

[rhyn]

I gotta disagree about the Randy Rhodes v's being more comfortable than regular v's. I find the RR's pretty unbalanced compared to say, a King V.

[Mand'alor]

I gotta disagree about the Randy Rhodes v's being more comfortable than regular v's. I find the RR's pretty unbalanced compared to say, a King V.

I'm going t second this post. There is no way a RR V is more comfortable than a normal shaped V, no way Jose!

[Slamman]

Dudes, I owned a genuine Gibson, Michael Schenker style, and my Rhoads was a better guitar, I loved it. I can appreciate if you like the full V, but there is a funny story about Rhoads and Grover Jackson making the body, Randy was given a slightly cut wing guitar and declined it saying it just wasn't enough taken out of it, so Grover took it back to the saw. I think it's so nice, having the chord coming from the upper wing, unlike Joey Rico's Iron Bird design, it's in the wrong place at the lower wing section!

 

I'm on a slight Foreigner Kick right now, so I will throw this clip in the post.... Reason being is the odd choice of guitar that Mick Jones happened upon for this promo vid shoot. The guitar is a short three letter name brand, I can't recall it but will double check, as it was in the NAMM report in Guitar Players Dec 84 issue, I have it here somewhere.

I'd never seen the two neck version. Looks ripe for MichaelAngelo's picking, to pun a phrase

 

 

Edited October 6, 2009 by Slamman

[Deathly Visage]

I'd get somethin' angular, the look alone inspires you to pick up and play it, it attracts the eye on stage as well. I just find Biches REALLY, really attractive. The RRhoads V is so much more comfy then the standard V, I owned both.

I have owned a Gibson Flying V and a Top of The Range Jackson RR. and to be honest, they look stupid, they are too heavy and most of the time, the tone is awful.

Dont be queer, if you buy a shiny ass, pointy guitar, it looks like your compensating for somthing.

[Deathly Visage]

Dudes, I owned a genuine Gibson, Michael Schenker style, and my Rhoads was a better guitar, I loved it. I can appreciate if you like the full V, but there is a funny story about Rhoads and Grover Jackson making the body, Randy was given a slightly cut wing guitar and declined it saying it just wasn't enough taken out of it, so Grover took it back to the saw. I think it's so nice, having the chord coming from the upper wing, unlike Joey Rico's Iron Bird design, it's in the wrong place at the lower wing section!

 

I'm on a slight Foreigner Kick right now, so I will throw this clip in the post.... Reason being is the odd choice of guitar that Mick Jones happened upon for this promo vid shoot. The guitar is a short three letter name brand, I can't recall it but will double check, as it was in the NAMM report in Guitar Players Dec 84 issue, I have it here somewhere.

I'd never seen the two neck version. Looks ripe for MichaelAngelo's picking, to pun a phrase

 

 

ESP/LTD?

[Canoxa]

 

Sorry mate, but you will do much better by getting a Vintage V6 Icon Strat copy. Those are the mutts nuts. And dont bother with guitar teachers, youwill get bored very quickly. teaching yourself is so much more rewarding. And, by teaching yourself you willl develope your own unique style. If you learn off a teacher, you will learn his style. its so good to learn a solo and know that no one helped you do it.

 

Try the intro solo of One by Metallica

Man, that just has to take the cake for "MORE BULLsh*t AMASSED TOGETHER" in this topic.

 

 

I have owned a Gibson Flying V and a Top of The Range Jackson RR. and to be honest, they look stupid, they are too heavy and most of the time, the tone is awful.

Dont be queer, if you buy a shiny ass, pointy guitar, it looks like your compensating for somthing.

Wait, no. You're able to top yourself off. amazing.

Edited October 6, 2009 by Canoxa

[Deathly Visage]

Sorry mate, but you will do much better by getting a Vintage V6 Icon Strat copy. Those are the mutts nuts. And dont bother with guitar teachers, youwill get bored very quickly. teaching yourself is so much more rewarding. And, by teaching yourself you willl develope your own unique style. If you learn off a teacher, you will learn his style. its so good to learn a solo and know that no one helped you do it.

 

Try the intro solo of One by Metallica

Man, that just has to take the cake for "MORE BULLsh*t AMASSED TOGETHER" in this topic.

 

 

I have owned a Gibson Flying V and a Top of The Range Jackson RR. and to be honest, they look stupid, they are too heavy and most of the time, the tone is awful.

Dont be queer, if you buy a shiny ass, pointy guitar, it looks like your compensating for somthing.

Wait, no. You're able to top yourself off. amazing.

why?

[Canoxa]

Why?

 

Most people who get 'bored' with teachers are egotistical, ADD-classifiable kids whose only goal is to be awesome, yet do not believe in work. These types evolve well in the first year or two. After that, they feel they've outgrown their teacher because, even though they've just climbed the steep first step in the development curve and have hit their first plateau, they feel it is their teacher who is crampin' their style. I mean, they got along well so far with barely any of his help, right? They might evolve their technique without a teacher, but then, they're injected into a market of music that rewards either style or knowledge. They have none. Most Youtube Warriors fit. A big part of these will teach. They'll be horrible at it, driving away potential talents, who quit because they're bored with their teacher.

 

Teaching yourself isn't any more rewarding. The only people I've heard saying there were self taught. A big part of those self taughts decided to give classes a whirl. They changed their mind.

 

Developing your "own personal style" doesn't happen by working alone. Very much the contrary, in fact. Molecules recombine, they do not sprout themselves from anti-matter. All theo-physics aside, "Imitate, assimilate, innovate" has been the sacred motto in pedagogy in all areas of knowledge. That maverick bullsh*t, guess what: it doesn't work at all. A certain person, especially one in the position of that as a teacher might influence one a whole lot, but it takes a lot of narrow-mindedness to get stuck at that. And if you're that narrow-minded, you're right, no teacher will help you. Not to mention that the job of a music teacher isn't to teach the student, so to speak, but to allow the student to learn. It's very, oh so very different.

 

Regarding the pointy guitars. I'm having a hard time believing you 'owned' both guitars. But that's beyond the point. A more pertinent move from my part would be reminding you that a Gibson Flying V is a BIG chunk of mahogany, one of the heaviest woods used in guitar construction, with a mahogany neck. A Jackson RR is alder, and a whole lot smaller. They don't even feel the same against your body.

They look stupid. They are for people who are trying to compensate. And yet you've owned two. Two expensive ones, I might add. What do you attribute the crappy tone to, the shape? Not you, I'm sure.

Would you disclose your gear at the moment? What feels right to you?

 

If your "why?" was regarding your ability to top yourself off... You had 6 ideas in your first post. At least you were able to acknowledge Vintage guitars, which are indeed quite nice, and you did state that working towards a goal is rewarding, even if you did for the right reasons. Your second post, on the other hand... Not only you string a bunch of arguments that barely hold any truth value, but you also dis two guitars that you have claimed ownership of. But then again, you're obviously rich - you have enough good gear, true bypass boutique stuff, to actually notice how a guitar's shape influences the sound. You probably bought those two just to try.

[Deathly Visage]

Why?

 

Most people who get 'bored' with teachers are egotistical, ADD-classifiable kids whose only goal is to be awesome, yet do not believe in work. These types evolve well in the first year or two. After that, they feel they've outgrown their teacher because, even though they've just climbed the steep first step in the development curve and have hit their first plateau, they feel it is their teacher who is crampin' their style. I mean, they got along well so far with barely any of his help, right? They might evolve their technique without a teacher, but then, they're injected into a market of music that rewards either style or knowledge. They have none. Most Youtube Warriors fit. A big part of these will teach. They'll be horrible at it, driving away potential talents, who quit because they're bored with their teacher.

 

Teaching yourself isn't any more rewarding. The only people I've heard saying there were self taught. A big part of those self taughts decided to give classes a whirl. They changed their mind.

 

Developing your "own personal style" doesn't happen by working alone. Very much the contrary, in fact. Molecules recombine, they do not sprout themselves from anti-matter. All theo-physics aside, "Imitate, assimilate, innovate" has been the sacred motto in pedagogy in all areas of knowledge. That maverick bullsh*t, guess what: it doesn't work at all. A certain person, especially one in the position of that as a teacher might influence one a whole lot, but it takes a lot of narrow-mindedness to get stuck at that. And if you're that narrow-minded, you're right, no teacher will help you. Not to mention that the job of a music teacher isn't to teach the student, so to speak, but to allow the student to learn. It's very, oh so very different.

 

Regarding the pointy guitars. I'm having a hard time believing you 'owned' both guitars. But that's beyond the point. A more pertinent move from my part would be reminding you that a Gibson Flying V is a BIG chunk of mahogany, one of the heaviest woods used in guitar construction, with a mahogany neck. A Jackson RR is alder, and a whole lot smaller. They don't even feel the same against your body.

They look stupid. They are for people who are trying to compensate. And yet you've owned two. Two expensive ones, I might add. What do you attribute the crappy tone to, the shape? Not you, I'm sure.

Would you disclose your gear at the moment? What feels right to you?

 

If your "why?" was regarding your ability to top yourself off... You had 6 ideas in your first post. At least you were able to acknowledge Vintage guitars, which are indeed quite nice, and you did state that working towards a goal is rewarding, even if you did for the right reasons. Your second post, on the other hand... Not only you string a bunch of arguments that barely hold any truth value, but you also dis two guitars that you have claimed ownership of. But then again, you're obviously rich - you have enough good gear, true bypass boutique stuff, to actually notice how a guitar's shape influences the sound. You probably bought those two just to try.

1. When i was in Middle School i applied for Guitar lessons. I diddn't get the postition in the class due to wha they called "lack of knowlege". So I thought to myself "f*ck it". Went out the next day and bought a sh*tty Squire Fender and taught myself. I'm not saying to dismiss teachers 100%. But atleast try it without them.

P.S. Even if you teach yourself, hard work is key.

2. I never said to develope your personal style you have to work alone. the most effective way is to work with other guitarists in bands and jam sessions.

3. Pointy guitars: Yes, I have owned both of those guitars. And in my expireience, Tone is 100% personal thing. Like, I used to love playing heavy metal. Now, I hate playing it. If i cant impress myself with what im playing, I lose all motivation. Nowadays, I play a lot of Eric Clapton and Jimi Hendrix.

Now, My parents are rich, so i can affort guitars that other people cant afford. But lately ive try to cheap down my whole setup. to make me appreciate the cheaper side of Guitars and Amps. Ive sold all of my expensive guitars. they held no personal value to me.

My Setup:

Vintage VS6: with higher output Wilkinson Pickups.

Crate GLX212 Combo Amp

 

I'm very much a EVH player, i belive that stomp boxes take away so much of the tone out of your guitar. I own one pedal, a Digitech DeathMetal Distortion. which i dont use.

 

If anyone want to buy it let me know

 

 

DV

[Canoxa]

 

1. When i was in Middle School i applied for Guitar lessons. I diddn't get the postition in the class due to wha they called "lack of knowlege". So I thought to myself "f*ck it". Went out the next day and bought a sh*tty Squire Fender and taught myself. I'm not saying to dismiss teachers 100%. But atleast try it without them.

So, even though you had no experience whatsoever with a teacher, you were able to advice a newbie not to bother with guitar teachers? Nice.

 

 

3. Pointy guitars: Yes, I have owned both of those guitars. And in my expireience, Tone is 100% personal thing. Like, I used to love playing heavy metal.

Personal as in, each one to his own or 'tone is in your fingers' guy?

 

 

Now, My parents are rich, so i can affort guitars that other people cant afford. But lately ive try to cheap down my whole setup. to make me appreciate the cheaper side of Guitars and Amps. Ive sold all of my expensive guitars. they held no personal value to me.

Do not take any comment regarding your family's wealth as an attack to your hard work. Maybe how easy they came was the reason they became boring to you, we'll hardly ever know.

 

[Deathly Visage]

Do not take any comment regarding your family's wealth as an attack to your hard work. Maybe how easy they came was the reason they became boring to you, we'll hardly ever know.

Yes, completely.

[Xeon]

I'm thinking of investing in a capo. I'm not experienced with them, so I thought I'd ask here if there's any particular brand or type that I should look for or avoid?

[Canoxa]

 

I'm thinking of investing in a capo. I'm not experienced with them, so I thought I'd ask here if there's any particular brand or type that I should look for or avoid?

A capo is a capo. It'll always do it's job, no matter how cheap. Sturdiness and how easy one can put in in, take it out and slide it around if you need to is what matters. Unless of course, you want those fancy spider capos that allow you to cover selected strings or even stop chords for you.

 

I have a cheap Dunlop spring capo. Does its job.

[Democrab]

Just brought a Jackson RR3, I can't wait until it is delivered.

[Slamman]

I got an inquiry on my own ad for a white BC RICH Bich body I decided to sell being so broke and out of work poor. I had intended to have Neal Moser himself work on it, putting in his dual preamp/boost circuit at least. That alone he sells for $150!

 

Someone started the replication process with the body, we feel. Even Neal Moser himself commented on it and saw the various pics when I took the guitar off eBay.

 

It's one rare ax, but just a shell of what it could be, even has diamond inlays.

 

To DVisage, I disagree that the Gibbo sounds bad, it has damn good pickups, the neck was fat, the frets large. By contrast, the BC Rich has thin frets or flatter but fat frets, they all are a bit different when comparing hand made USA guitars, I might add, built to order by original owner! That's why they cost a premium. Guitars with unque body designs don't suffer some sort of tone course, as you suggest, and I never get tired of holding or looking at them, quite simply, it's why they choose to be different, so to speak

Earlier I mentioned the Foreigner video, also in Molly Hatchet's Satisfied Man, the Infinity guitar, I nearly forgot to look that one up for the record;

 

It's April 1984 GUITAR magazine, if you can find a copy, page 47 review of NAMM, Design Engineer, and non rockin dude "looking" Dave Petschulat shows off an Infinity guitar from his company JTG, the name I really couldn't recall. The band Nuclear Assault also used this guitar.

 

Price $595, ash body, highly figured curly Maple neck, gray pearl finish (on example) single hum and custom tremolo (looks to be Kahler however) charcoal gray with accents and pearl white as well as red with light gray optional coatings. When I started guitar shopping something similar was in mind as I'd just gotten the magazine while taking lessons (I looked at a Hondo model, often much maligned in guitar circles, with possible good reason, I never did own one)

 

Peavey had a line of interesting 1980s bodies.

The plain jane Strat never held much appeal, outside of Gilmour's, so I wound up with a Ibanez Roadstar, Strat style with rubber knobs, my favorite feature of that series!

Wanted the Ibanez Iceman with Paul Stanley name plaque on it, I thought it was the "Destroyer", which Phil Collen of Leppard played?!?

Edited October 25, 2009 by Slamman

[Aussiebushmatt]

Here's the guitar I got a couple of weeks ago (sorry it's sideways):

 

 

 

[Slamman]

Nice, looks vintage, I love the sunbursts, can't go wrong, simply put. I owned two sunburst Charvel Jackson Deluxes that I recall.

Traded last one on the Randy Rhoads, and I never meant to let anyone else get the guitar but the pawn shop offered it up ultimately.

 

When I mentioned in contrast to the Gibson Flying V I had, the Jackson Rhoads had the thinnest frets of them all. Whether they were custom done (ie Dressed) like that, I don't know, but damn, made playing rather effortless. I am not a fan of huge fretwire or large guage strings. I stop playing when my fingers hurt, I'm a wuss! hahaha

[Canoxa]

Definitely looks like a lawsuit Strat, but such a picture would fool someone that actually knowns them, let alone me.

 

What does it say on the headstock?

[Slamman]

It looks like a Fender, no doubt.

BC Rich's Bich, my own Strat, if you will, had some very close Japanese replicas made, you can find examples shown online, Neal Moser commented on these as well. I mention him because he was just working on guitars and building his own standard issues until the idea for the 10 string Rich Bich materialized in 1976/77.

It really is amazing his first private guitar through BC RICH company took off when Bernie Rico decided to build it.

Neal's commented on fellow guitar craftsman like Wayne Charvel and Paul Reed Smith, and made me chuckle. Observations on how they build axes.

 

It was just great to hear from someone working in that field, and building some of the best 1970s guitars in the USA.

 

Just my own observation on the shapes, the Ironbird is real tough balance wise, it's got a heavy neck, I think the bass does a bit better due to the size, the Warlock I also owned, before trading to the HM-20V Washburn. The Warlock was a late 80s NJ, not a bad one, purple crackle finish, Floyd licensed tremolo. It just poked me in the stomach when I played it. The Bich only suffers from the rear wing SIZE, but it wouldn't look right smaller, and it functions as a tuner placement on ten string models at the back. The other thing to overcome is locking strap retainers add size and mount to the rear of the wings, so they tend to jab into you.

 

It's something of a little discomfort but not sure there's a solution, like a flat input jack would provide on a guitar where the jack plugs in the lower wing( keeping a low profile you can rest against your leg)

[Aussiebushmatt]

It's definitely a Fender Strat, but it's a Squier.

On the headstock it says:

 

 

Squier L037401 by Fender Stratocaster made in Japan Silver Series

[Slamman]

I assumed it might be, I was looking at Fender Teles at the Guitar Center some years back, the guy made a comment about Gibson or Fender guy, and of course, I'm neither! haha

[Canoxa]

Wow, a Japo Squier. That's actually quite nice.

[Slamman]

Been gettin' inquiries on the white rich Bich neck/body I offered on Craig's List, a project I could never finish, wanted to restore it properly.

 

It seems though, it was a fan made copy, and not too bad, just in horrible shape as it arrived, needs TLC. Still, hope the interest pans out and someone's gonna give it the facelift it needs to be great.

[ACAngus]

Yo guys im looking for a new guitar for christmas. Can you suggest any in the 500$CA range? Ive been lookin and i found this http://www.bcrich.com/mockingbird_masterpiece_lefty.html do you guys know if this is a good guitar? I already got an epi sg, so if you kno that the sg is a better guitar then the mockingbird could you let me know? I dont want to waste money on just looks.

[rhyn]

Personally I think B.C Rich guitars look as ugly as all hell but they play well (some of them). I wouldn't expect anything amazingly different between that and your SG tbh. Nice to have if your just looking for some variety looks wise though. I'd imagine it sounds a bit thicker too.

[Democrab]

To be honest, if it's the same Epi SG I have (The Special model without pickguard) and depending on what music you play, it's a very nice guitar in terms of sound after you play around with the action, etc, mines adjusted for low action with the pickups as high as possible and it has heavy top/light bottom strings and in terms of sound, can give my Jackson RR3 Rhoads a run for its money sometimes.

[Slamman]

Truly depends on the point of origin, and if you don't like BC Rich shapes, there's something wrong with you rather then the guitar, because they make more then one design, and each one had a different person coming up with the shape, so how can you dislike them all?? It's sheer stupidity.

 

Each one was born of different circumstances and in a different time frame as well.

 

I love most all BCR designs, and I like radical guitars, but there are downsides that are more pressing, like heavy necks partly because of the strap post positions.

 

Anyone know a TAB site for VoiVod's Dimension Hatross album???

[rhyn]

 

they make more then one design, and each one had a different person coming up with the shape, so how can you dislike them all?? It's sheer stupidity.

Sorry for having an opinion Bill. I did forget to mention the BCR Beast though, which is the only one of the lot I don't mind the look of. Personally I find the super strat shape more appealing. The Ibanez S series are some of the nicest looking guitars I've come across and of course the Maverick F and X series'. That's just me though.

[Slamman]

Opinion can't be a "blanket" statement without much bias present, my own opinion along those lines.

 

I'm saying not all unique and bizarre guitar ideas are eye candy as well, some are eye sores, but it is what it is, the trick that the luthier must tackle is a playable and comfortable instrument that brings unique approach and ideas to the table. For me, what's interesting about the BCR classics, they do seem to complement one in another, in a way. Nothing looks too out there in the BCR family. Brian of Deicide came up with the Beast, Joey Rico designed the Ironbird, and Neal Moser crafted the BCR Bich.

 

The all time iconic Warlock was one of the first guitars designed with a modern approach on the body lines. (I believe, more professionally "drafted" angles, or something in terms of the body architecture, but it was about 1980 when that came into play.

 

Guitarist Spencer Sarcombe (sp?) of Shark Island helped design the Warlock initially, still others came up with Mockingbird and the Seagull, which may have been Bernie Rico Sr.

 

Before solid body guitars, they were totally acoustic heritage!!

 

 

 

For me, the Bich is the best with it's bevelled USA crafted original body, not the flat versions, and those bevels taper around the heelless joint neck through as well as both horns! They really are Horns on the Bich guitar

Edited November 20, 2009 by Slamman