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[Lonely-Martin 34,584]

1 hour ago, Keano said:

Started watching after Chapter 5 released and Undertaker announced his retirement. He's my all time favorite. I got into wrestling in 1999/2000 when The American Badass version of Undertaker was appearing and was hooked ever since. To say the man is my entire childhood may even be an understatement. To this day, the gong going still gets me jumping up and down in my living room. It's truly the end of an era for me as a fan, but I'm happy for him and at least Edge came back, my other favorite. 

I was one of the lucky ones that got to watch his debut and like you, was drawn in and hooked from day one, lol. I was about 10 when he first started with that Survivor Series match and was both in awe and a bit scared of the character, lol. But it's been an amazing ride mostly ever since.

 

Definitely contributed to my love of horror movies too, lol.

 

The way they brought Kane in was brilliant and probably the greatest debut that had a huge impact on me too. Just a perfect story with Paul Bearer doing his part of course.

 

Then the badass, a great turn and change of pace. Added much on the mic for the era and just had me drawn in more and more. The whole Brothers of Destruction thing was awesome to watch as I loved both characters. Some great storylines with the likes of Mankind and Stone Cold back then.

 

The 4 matches with Shawn and HHH were great storytelling and some awesome matches, and when he lost the streak to Brock, I was bowled over at the time too.

 

30 years I've been a huge fan and I know I'll miss his ring presence, but he'll never be forgotten and I don't think he'll ever be topped either. But this documentary was so good for me to watch and learn more about the man behind the character, along with the Stone Cold Broken Skull interview. It bought a nice end to a character I've been invested in for so long and definitely had an influence on me throughout the years.

 

What a legend! 

[Guest]

Unpopular opinion : Seth Rollins' current theme > Burn it Down

 

In fact I think his overall look is the best it's ever been. Not following the shows that much apart from clips here and there but I hope they take to calling him the Black Hand, would be a sick name for current Seth. 

[Corndawg93 1,148]

Slamerversary is currently on, who's watching?, I'm not

[Corndawg93 1,148]

Keith Lee is awesome

[Carl Theft Auto 991]

Wrestling is $#!T now. I miss the old days of wrestling 2007-2011. The cool Wrestlers like The Undertaker, Stone Cold, John Cena, HBK, Brock and many others are old and retired now.

Edited November 3, 2020 by Carl Theft Auto

[Bartleby 1,824]

9 hours ago, Carl Theft Auto said:

I miss the old days of wrestling 2007-2011.

I'm guessing you were a little kid during this (PG) era? Because I don't think I'm alone in saying that that period of wrestling was godawful, at least as far as WWE goes. It's generally regarded as such by people of my generation or older, it seems.

 

That said, it's not all rose-tinted glasses for me, either - there was plenty of garbage even in the golden years of the late '90s. Watching back a random Raw or Smackdown from then is interesting because the quality of the actual wrestling is pretty lacking compared to today. Back then it was more about crash TV and gimmicks, I spose.

Edited November 3, 2020 by Bartleby

[Wayne Kerr 2,280]

13 minutes ago, Bartleby said:

Watching back a random Raw or Smackdown from then is interesting because the quality of the actual wrestling is pretty lacking compared to today. Back then it was more about crash TV and gimmicks, I spose.

Tbh I prefer the older style of wrestling somewhat or at least I think today's wrestlers are... I guess too skilled if that can even be considered criticism lol, but now everyone does a suicide dive for example to the point I don't get excited with that move anymore whereas when I first watched (interestingly I first started watching WWE around 2009ish myself) it seemed like such a daredevilish and exciting move. 

 

I remember when Justin Gabriel debuted in 2010 odd and the 360 splash was seen as this magical move, now people perform even crazier moves but the thing is this has become so overdone that it doesn't feel magical anymore. I get the feeling Randy Savage vs Ricky Steamboat done today would appear so boring to fans used to seeing 'flippy sh*t' for lack of a better term. 

 

But yeah the consensus is that the PG era kind of sucked and even if I have a lot of nostalgia for it I will say today's era is better with the Women's revolution, the growth of NXT, the debut of AEW, the rise of NJPW etc. I guess like you said when you started watching is important too, despite how good pro wrestling is today for me 2009-2016 was the peak years as a fan. 

Edited November 3, 2020 by Utopianthumbs
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[Bartleby 1,824]

5 minutes ago, Utopianthumbs said:

Tbh I prefer the older style of wrestling somewhat or at least I think today's wrestlers are... I guess too skilled if that can even be considered criticism lol

I think that's legitimate and fair criticism - sometimes it comes across as way too choreographed. WWE's had this problem for years in that the wrestling, the scripted promos, the graphics, the whole production comes across as completely overproduced.

 

What the "Attitude Era" was good at was having a good balance of lots of different guys doing lots of different things up and down the card, and all feeling totally different. Since then things have felt largely same-y.

Edited November 3, 2020 by Bartleby

[Wayne Kerr 2,280]

5 minutes ago, Bartleby said:

What the "Attitude Era" was good at was having a good balance of lots of different guys doing lots of different things up and down the card, and all feeling totally different. Since then things have felt largely same-y.

Another thing I feel the Attitude era did better(though admittedly I may be wrong on this) is that gimmick matches like Hell in a Cell, TLC matches etc felt more important and feud ending, whereas today these kind of matches becoming themed pay per views, in a way it's fine but now they dont feel as exciting cause again it feels overdone, imo these kind of matches should only come to the picture for an extremely personal feud and not just because a pay per view is themed on it. 

 

But then again this year's Hell in a Cell PPV was fun or at least the Cell matches were good so idk I may be off base haha. 

[Carl Theft Auto 991]

On 11/3/2020 at 11:52 PM, Bartleby said:

I'm guessing you were a little kid during this (PG) era? Because I don't think I'm alone in saying that that period of wrestling was godawful, at least as far as WWE goes. It's generally regarded as such by people of my generation or older, it seems.

 

That said, it's not all rose-tinted glasses for me, either - there was plenty of garbage even in the golden years of the late '90s. Watching back a random Raw or Smackdown from then is interesting because the quality of the actual wrestling is pretty lacking compared to today. Back then it was more about crash TV and gimmicks, I spose.

I was like so young when I started watching WWE 2011 because of a friend. it was fun back then. But now the shows are getting boring and boring to the point where I just watch old WWE videos and feel the nostalgia.

 

I can still remember how I reacted when John Cena won against HBK at WrestleMania 23.Good times. Even though that happened 5 years ago lmao.

Edited January 21 by Carl Theft Auto

[Wayne Kerr 2,280]

14 minutes ago, Carl Theft Auto said:

can still remember how I reacted when John Cena won against HBK at WrestleMania 23. Good times.

I didn't see this live but yeah it was a classic. Their rematch on Raw in London is even more highly acclaimed, not often do you see Raw matches go for an hour, and a match of that quality with a boisterous London crowd, man great stuff. HBK-Cena is one of the underrated rivalries I feel. 

Edited November 4, 2020 by Utopianthumbs

[Carl Theft Auto 991]

I remember being a Cena fanboy lmao.

Edited January 21 by Carl Theft Auto

[Wayne Kerr 2,280]

What a Raw main event, probably the best one in a while. So pumped for Survivor Series now. 

 

Putting this in spoilers just in case.

 

Spoiler

So pumped for Drew. Incredible to think he's now a two time WWE Champion and the top face after his 3MB days. WWE Champion Drew McIntyre vs Universal Champion Roman Reigns is going to be a beast-fight, a bloody war and I can't wait.

 

Also it seems this is the first time the WWE title changed hands on RAW since Roman beat Sheamus in 2015, speaking of Sheamus really liking his and Drew's bromance

 

[Carl Theft Auto 991]

Just found out that one of my favorite wrestlers have died today. RIP Luke Harper, kinda reminds me a bit about Chris Benoit passing.

[Corndawg93 1,148]

R.I.P Jon Huber

[Lonely-Martin 34,584]

Yeah, a real surprise and shame to learn of Luke Harper's passing. Quite enjoyed his stuff and had hoped he could be more back when with WWE. 

 

By the sound of things, seemed like a real gent too. RIP big man!

[Corndawg93 1,148]

Royal Rumble on Sunday, who's keen

[Carl Theft Auto 991]

On 1/28/2021 at 8:21 AM, Corndawg93 said:

Royal Rumble on Sunday, who's keen

I kinda regret not watching it, Alot have returned and it was epic. 

 

Spoiler Alert:

Spoiler

Carlito Cabana returned

Edge won, which sucks.

 

[Corndawg93 1,148]

The whole card from top to bottom was superperb, very rare from WWE ppv