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[Corndawg93]

._______________. emma released?

She got rehired dude

[Shenmue18]

WWE will make up for less Cena in July with more Adam Rose and Santino matches, as well as vignettes marking Cena's return date after he's gone for 7 minutes and showing him work with Make a Wish kids and troops to attempt to make people feel bad to boo him at sh- I mean... promote charity work.

[jukebox]

What's wrong with the way he markets for make a wish? He may use it ton his advantage but there are sick kids and most won't make it if they want to smile and see someone that they admire why can't they. I take offense my sister passed away from cancer and her wish made her so happy. So if exploiting us what you call it then john cena exploit away.....he just needs to not wrestle.

[Corndawg93]

I'm having trouble wondering why Sasha Banks isn't on the main roster yet

[AhmadJ]

 

._______________. emma released?

She got rehired dude

 

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[Corndawg93]

 

 

 

._______________. emma released?

She got rehired dude

 

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[Shenmue18]

What's wrong with the way he markets for make a wish? He may use it ton his advantage but there are sick kids and most won't make it if they want to smile and see someone that they admire why can't they. I take offense my sister passed away from cancer and her wish made her so happy. So if exploiting us what you call it then john cena exploit away.....he just needs to not wrestle.

He can do the exact same sh*t without all the cameras recording him and publishing it for good publicity for both the WWE and John Cena.

[AhmadJ]

so wwe is considering plans for a shield reunion sometime in late 2015/2016 & wwe is pushing talents to be more aggressive in matches

Edited July 3, 2014 by AhmadJ

[Shenmue18]

From what I'm hearing they want to make The Shield similar to DX and never completely take reunions off the table at any point, since DX and sold so much merchandise over the years, this is probably a wise move.

[Corndawg93]

News time peeps

 

Reason why Emma was rehired

http://rajah.com/node/41935

 

Cena's movie commitment

http://rajah.com/node/41941

 

The Shield being together again

http://rajah.com/node/41942

 

Flairs TV return

http://rajah.com/node/41943

I already mention them

[EQUIN0X]

I just had to share this hilarity. I just found this guy's blog.

 

http://fitzinfo.wordpress.com/2014/04/13/dark-spirits-surround-wrestlemania-30/

 

There can be no doubt that the WWE is a Judeo-Masonic Illuminati front guided by fallen spirits of hell. From sexual abuse to exploitation of its employees, demonic ritual, and Illuminati symbolism, the company is fulfilling its demonic goal of distracting the masses with spectacles and brutalizing their minds with psychodramas and soft pornography.

 

 

I can't stop laughing.

[AhmadJ]

imagine kozlov vs rusev

[Corndawg93]

imagine kozlov vs rusev

Or Umaga, seeing how I refer Rusev as a Umaga ripoff

[Hodgey.]

 

imagine kozlov vs rusev

Or Umaga, seeing how I refer Rusev as a Umaga ripoff

 

Really?

 

He's nothing like Umaga.

[Corndawg93]

 

 

imagine kozlov vs rusev

 

Or Umaga, seeing how I refer Rusev as a Umaga ripoff

 

Really?

 

He's nothing like Umaga.

Oh really.

Both have people talking for them

Both have the same build

Both we're undefeated for a long period of time

Both have/will have there undefeated streaks ended by John Cena

Both suck in the ring

Both have five letter in there name

 

Only difference is Umaga had a unique finisher like the Samoan Spike, where's Rusef has a generic finisher like the Steiner Recliner (forget the actual name)

[AhmadJ]

 

 

 

imagine kozlov vs rusev

Or Umaga, seeing how I refer Rusev as a Umaga ripoff

Really?

 

He's nothing like Umaga.

Oh really.

Both have people talking for them

Both have the same build

Both we're undefeated for a long period of time

Both have/will have there undefeated streaks ended by John Cena

Both suck in the ring

Both have five letter in there name

 

Only difference is Umaga had a unique finisher like the Samoan Spike, where's Rusef has a generic finisher like the Steiner Recliner (forget the actual name)

 

awesome

[Hodgey.]

 

 

 

imagine kozlov vs rusev

Or Umaga, seeing how I refer Rusev as a Umaga ripoff

Really?

 

He's nothing like Umaga.

Oh really.

Both have people talking for them

Both have the same build

Both we're undefeated for a long period of time

Both have/will have there undefeated streaks ended by John Cena

Both suck in the ring

Both have five letter in there name

 

Oh really.

One is billed from Samoa the other Bulgaria/Russia.

One had a male manager the other a female manager.

Umaga was much flabbier than Rusev.

Rusev doesn't wear face paint.

Rusev doesn't have as many tattoo's.

Rusev sucks......hahaha no.

Rusev isn't dead.

Edited July 3, 2014 by Hodgey.

[Corndawg93]

 

 

 

 

imagine kozlov vs rusev

 

Or Umaga, seeing how I refer Rusev as a Umaga ripoff

Really?

 

He's nothing like Umaga.

Oh really.

Both have people talking for them

Both have the same build

Both we're undefeated for a long period of time

Both have/will have there undefeated streaks ended by John Cena

Both suck in the ring

Both have five letter in there name

 

Oh really.

One is billed from Samoa the other Bulgaria/Russia.

One had a male manager the other a female manager.

Umaga was much flabbier than Rusev.

Rusev doesn't wear face paint.

Rusev doesn't have as many tattoo's.

Rusev sucks......hahaha no.

Rusev isn't dead.

If you think your points mean sh*t, WELL THEN I'M AFRAID IVE GOT SOME BAD NEWS!!!! Edited July 3, 2014 by Billy james

[XTREME0235]

Rusev isn't dead.

 

I feel so f*cking bad for how hard I laughed though.

[codename_duchess]

I just had to share this hilarity. I just found this guy's blog.

 

http://fitzinfo.wordpress.com/2014/04/13/dark-spirits-surround-wrestlemania-30/

 

There can be no doubt that the WWE is a Judeo-Masonic Illuminati front guided by fallen spirits of hell. From sexual abuse to exploitation of its employees, demonic ritual, and Illuminati symbolism, the company is fulfilling its demonic goal of distracting the masses with spectacles and brutalizing their minds with psychodramas and soft pornography.

 

 

I can't stop laughing.

hahaha this is so funny. Seriously, some people have far too much time on their hands.

 

After reading this, i'll never be able to watch Raw in the same way again lol

[AznDragon89]

I'm having trouble wondering why Sasha Banks isn't on the main roster yet

she cant wrestle, all she do is slaps

[Hodgey.]

 

I'm having trouble wondering why Sasha Banks isn't on the main roster yet

 

she cant wrestle, all she do is slaps

 

True.

 

I'd rather see Charlotte or Bayley brought up before Sasha. Like I said though a couple of pages back, they dont use half of the Diva's on the main roster anyway, so no point in bringing more up if they aren't going to do anything except wrestle once every 8 months on Main Event.

[AhmadJ]

bayley should stay in nxt forever or she'll end up being a joke in the main roster just like emma

[Shenmue18]

Umaga and Rusev are both monster heels, bigger guys, have managers that speak for them, have an undefeated streak, the country they're from plays a part of their character, they both wrestle similar dominant, deliberately paced styles. I can definitely see why Billy made the comparison, but I can see why Hodgey might disagree, since they aren't complete carbon copies of one another. Also, don't feel bad XTREME, you're not the only one who laughed at the "Rusev isn't dead" comment on Hodgey's post.

 

As for the NXT Women's bring ups, I pay next to no attention to NXT, the only guys I know from their are the ones that I've seen in the indie scene like a Sami Zayn, I've only see one of their shows which was the NXT Takeover PPV/Special Event/Super fun time sports entertainment party that they did a few weeks ago. So Charlotte seems to be a pretty solid worker, her match with Natayla was one of the best women's matches that the WWE has put on in years, I wouldn't mind seeing her on the main roster here soon.

[Crokey]

I'm having trouble wondering why Sasha Banks isn't on the main roster yet

Apart from the uneasiness of being on a developmental contract in NXT, therefore you can be dropped without any severance, I would much rather that everyone who's in NXT stays there for the foreseeable future in the hope that Triple H and Steph take over and get Kevin "Bloody" Dunn's arse the hell on out of there, so everyone can prosper and get a proper promotion without any fear. Sasha has greatly improved, however promotion would just lead to bra and panties musical chairs and getting dunked in pools of "sh*t" for Kevin "Bloody" Dunn's personal satisfaction.

[codename_duchess]

 

I'm having trouble wondering why Sasha Banks isn't on the main roster yet

Apart from the uneasiness of being on a developmental contract in NXT, therefore you can be dropped without any severance, I would much rather that everyone who's in NXT stays there for the foreseeable future in the hope that Triple H and Steph take over and get Kevin "Bloody" Dunn's arse the hell on out of there, so everyone can prosper and get a proper promotion without any fear. Sasha has greatly improved, however promotion would just lead to bra and panties musical chairs and getting dunked in pools of "sh*t" for Kevin "Bloody" Dunn's personal satisfaction.

 

Two legends talking about Kevin Dunn. Basically says it all

 

 

[Hodgey.]

Kevin Dunn has better knowledge in his little finger than Jim and Paul combined.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 3, 2014 by Hodgey.

[Crokey]

I never tire or watching that video, also if Percy Pringle/William Moody/Paul Bearer hated you then you done bad, and I was never that keen on Jim Cornette until I saw that video, but now...

 

On the subject of Kevin "Bloody" Dunn, this was piece written by a user called "alexgreenfeild" over at CageSide Seats, who at one time worked as a writer on the creative team in WWE, it's long read, but it's entirely worth it and by the end of it, you will really hate Kevin "Bloody" Dunn

 

I don't like Kevin Dunn; KD doesn't like me.

This could easily become the most TL;dr post ever as I’d love nothing more than to expend several gallons of digital ink telling you how little I like Kevin Dunn, but I’ll endeavor to restrain myself. Here’s the long and the short of it: when I saw that KD was the “My Name Is” today, my heart leapt with mean schadenfreude joy. I’ve been reading CSS regularly since right after ‘Mania, but this morning I was compelled to sign up. I’m kind of glad that there was a delay before I could post. Instead of just launching into a stream of vitriol, I got to read other comments. Many of them. Interestingly, it’s the defenses of Dunn that I find most intriguing.

 

The unanimity with which people hate on KD would absolutely set off my skepticism spidey sense if I didn’t know the guy. It feels to me like a lot of the defense in these comments can be boiled down to, “We don’t know the guy and he can’t POSSIBLY be as bad as these people are saying.” I totally understand the instinct to say that. Here’s the thing: I worked closely with KD for a couple years at WWE when I was a writer/producer on the creative team, and he absolutely IS that bad.

 

One of the primary arguments in his defense is that WWE product looks good, and that this demonstrates that he is a talented television director/producer. I’ve worked on a number of sports projects over the years and I’m here to tell you that KD is not one lick more talented than the EP/director of a mid-market NBA team. Indeed, I argue that WWE television would be well served bringing in someone just like that to take over television production because they would be more creative and could get outside the box programming has been in since the early-‘00s.

 

WWE shows do look good, but they also look the same. There’s a homogeneity to the feel of the product that stems directly from Dunn. His creative instinct is fast food: if it works, don’t muddle with it and keep Vince convinced it is the only way to do things by any means necessary.

 

When I took over as the head writer of Smackdown in the summer of 2006, one of the first things we pitched was to replace Kevin Dunn as the executive producer and promote Tim Walbert to take over the position. Tim was one of our directors (something KD is actually no good at doing – he can’t actually direct a live show to save his life) and was more than qualified for the job. We wanted Smackdown to look and feel like a completely different television than product – think in terms of Nitro vs. Raw – and for a little while Vince was intrigued by the idea (and Stephanie supported it as well).

 

Kevin, naturally, cared more about his fiefdom than trying something different with a show. He started his whisper campaign with Vince the moment we got off the plane (I intentionally did the initial pitch of the idea in Kevin’s presence on a flight back from TV). He buried Tim, me, the idea of a different feel to the product as a whole. It’s not just what another commenter said – that KD doesn’t give a sh*t about wrestling and is all about sports/entertainment – it’s that he wants to create an entertainment product that’s like fast food. He wants his job to be easy.

 

That means neutralizing any threat. Stephanie took a shine to me pretty early in my time at WWE and started grooming me to take over a show. She was no fan of KD at that point and it was very clear to me that he and handful of Vince’s other stooges would be gone at the moment of she and Hunter’s coronation. There are plenty of writers out there who bury Steph at every opportunity, but I remain convinced that the company will be in better hands when she takes the reins.

 

Any rate, the faith Stephanie had in me did not go unnoticed by KD and he did not like that at all. He didn’t like Stephanie having someone ambitious working for her, and he didn’t like that I was clearly on her side. So he started burying me with bullsh*t. It got back to me that he’d told one of the segment producers that I’d been slipped a roofie and passed out in a hotel lobby.

 

This was not the case.

 

I got my heat back on him plenty, but it was a constant fight long before I was given the head writer nod. The more instructive part of the story is that Kevin did this with anyone he perceived as a threat. Vince is a bit capricious about who he lets in his ear. Whenever he got close with Bruce Prichard, KD would be right there the first time Bruce was out of earshot burying him. Same with Brian Gewritz. Same with JBL. Same with JR. Same with a long list of people, and this I personally observed. KD once tried to turn ME against another writer who was similarly ambitious. Anyone who posed a danger to Dunn’s position from any perspective – a producer at the studio, a talent, whoever – KD would bury them to the boss. This was true even when there wasn’t any real threat.

 

So yes, KD still has a job, but I think the way you treat people matters. There is certainly something to be said about being cutthroat in a corporate culture that rewards sociopathy. I was no kinda freaking angel to get ahead as quickly as I did. At the same time, WWE would be a better place to work that would present a better product if Kevin Dunn were gone.

Case in point, one of the big rubs on KD: he’s a misogynist influence on the product. I can tell you this is absolutely true and I learned it almost from jump street. One of the long term stories I’m most proud of from my time at WWE was being the principal producer on the Trish Stratus/Mickie James “Single White Female” story. There’s no humble in the brag when I say we grabbed the audience by the throat by a couple weeks into the angle and our quarter-hour ratings bore that out.

 

The first time we were given a crossover segment because the story was getting over, KD fought it tooth and nail. He fought us every week. Show was heavy? KD wanted to cut Trish/Mickie. “Temple of Trish” segment? KD argued that we needed more action and people would get bored. Lesbian kiss? “Trish has gotta like it!” Every single element, he wanted both protagonist and villain to be sexier and stupider.

 

Perhaps the following scene will be more instructive. You are on the WWE corporate jet. Imagine every rock star plane in any movie: four captain’s chairs facing each other in the front. Behind them, two benches facing each other across the aisle on which are crammed the writers. The captains? Vince, KD, Michael Hayes, HHH (Steph was on maternity leave, of Hayes would have been on the bench). We’re flying back from TV after taping one of the early WWECW shows. Kelly Kelly has just been introduced as the domestic [violence] partner of Mike Knox.

 

Hayes: She just feels cold, you know? She’s not connecting.
Vince: Mm. She needs to find her sensuality.

KD hops up and down in seat with sni**ering laughter in that “Hey, boss, pay attention to me” way. Vince turns to him.

KD: She NEEEEDS to find some TITS!

KD continues to snicker, eyes on Vince, begging for approval. Vince snorts. Conversation continues.

 

This kind of thing? The tendency to present women as only softcore objects? Those conversations came every single day, and KD was the WORST about pissing on any serious woman’s program.

 

Ugh. I’m now on pg. 3 of the word doc I’m typing this in, so I’ll wrap it up. [Yaaaaay!] In my opinion based on my personal experience, Kevin Dunn is a detriment to WWE programming from both a creative and a production perspective. It is fair to credit him with being a part of something we all enjoy, but at the end of the day the product would be better if he weren’t involved in it. When that day comes, WWE will be a better place to work for both talent and crew.

 

 

[Shenmue18]

It's a shame that Vince loves to surround himself with dumbasses like that. You think you wouldn't hire a misogynistic piece of sh*t like that to work for you in the 21st century. I guess Vince likes to have himself a bunch of yes men who'll bow down and kiss his ass instead of someone who'll try and give new, fresh, creative ideas.

[Crokey]

I did read somewhere ages ago that Dunn was taken on by Vince Snr. and told Vince Jnr to "look after" him after he's gone, I think there was some sort of family friend connection between Vince Snr and Dunn's family, and Vince Jnr is a surprisingly sentimental kinda guy and has kept him on as part of that "promise" for want of a better term.

 

So it's only when Vince Jnr leaves the picture that Kevin "Bloody" Dunn will get future endeavored either by Triple H and Steph taking over or if Vince leaves in anyway shape or form that Kevin "Bloody" Dunn will jump before he's pushed.