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[The Pizza Delivery Guy]

 

Randy Orton speaks out... against Cena. 

Yes... yes YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!

 

Finally, I almost cannot believe it, Orton may be returning to a Heel position! Excellent!

 

Randy Orton is the reason that I started watching WWE. Back in 09', when he and HHH were going to face off at Wrestlemania, at some point before the PPV, Orton had a gigantic promo where he called out HHH. It was so cool to see him on stage talking all this sh*t about HHH with a smile on his face, and then when HHH actually showed up and beat the crap out of Orton, that settled it. WWE became my favorite TV show.

 

Now I've grown away from WWE, and this may be a move that'll bring me back. I'm curious, and am praying to Phil Collins that it follows through, about where this will head and that an Orton heel turn will spawn from it.

 

We'll see Monday.

 

EDIT: crap I'm on the front of a new page. Now everyone will see my fanboyism...

Edited June 7, 2013 by The Pizza Delivery Guy

[Shenmue18]

Well, he RKOed Daniel Bryan, I know the excuse was because he accidentally drop kicked Randy but that's definitely not what a normal face would do in response to that. So it's being teased, so maybe he'll fully turn heel in the next few weeks.

[iiConTr0v3rSYx]

 

Randy Orton speaks out... against Cena. 

 

Also Swagger may be out for a while with a hand injury... WHOAH WHOAH WHOAH... don't cheer too loudly, rumour has it he either kicked his own hand, cause he's a clumsy oaf, or he let his blunt burn down a little too close to his hand.

I had high hopes for Swagger when he returned, but now he's just a botch machine.

 

And people criticize Sin Cara? Atleast he doesn't injure people.

[Shenmue18]

Except himself.

 

Yeah, don't know what happened with Swagger and he's botching so often all the sudden, his moveset hasn't been completely changed so it's not like he's working a new style that he's never done before.

 

There has been talk of Sting coming to WWE to face Taker at 'Mania 30, apparently he's not happy with TNA and their booking of him or something, I think his tweet that "Sunday I was left to fight alone... Message received!" that people have been trying to say is him angry at TNA is a work, as he's talking about how Aces and Eights ganged up on him and no one helped him. Not something outside of kayfabe, but the other about not liking his booking in TNA isn't kayfabe so maybe he will in fact face Taker in WWE. Anyways, thoughts guys? Who do you think Undertaker should face at Wrestlemania XXX and do you think it's possible Sting will come to WWE?

 

I personally would like to see him face Cena as it's believable that WWE and their infatuation with Cena would let him end the streak, so every time he would hit the FU or lock in the STFU I'd be on the edge of my seat wondering if he'd end the streak. I don't care if Sting faces him since I wouldn't believe in him ending the streak, and he's not as good as he was back in the day so the match wouldn't be as good as it could have been 10 years ago.

[llSaviourll]

Anyone watch Smackdown? I missed it

[iiConTr0v3rSYx]

Anyone watch Smackdown? I missed it

Good matches as usual.

 

Highlight of the show

 

-Randy Orton RKO'd the hell out of DB.

[Capricornus]

Except himself.

 

Yeah, don't know what happened with Swagger and he's botching so often all the sudden, his moveset hasn't been completely changed so it's not like he's working a new style that he's never done before.

 

There has been talk of Sting coming to WWE to face Taker at 'Mania 30, apparently he's not happy with TNA and their booking of him or something, I think his tweet that "Sunday I was left to fight alone... Message received!" that people have been trying to say is him angry at TNA is a work, as he's talking about how Aces and Eights ganged up on him and no one helped him. Not something outside of kayfabe, but the other about not liking his booking in TNA isn't kayfabe so maybe he will in fact face Taker in WWE. Anyways, thoughts guys? Who do you think Undertaker should face at Wrestlemania XXX and do you think it's possible Sting will come to WWE?

 

I personally would like to see him face Cena as it's believable that WWE and their infatuation with Cena would let him end the streak, so every time he would hit the FU or lock in the STFU I'd be on the edge of my seat wondering if he'd end the streak. I don't care if Sting faces him since I wouldn't believe in him ending the streak, and he's not as good as he was back in the day so the match wouldn't be as good as it could have been 10 years ago.

Sting vs Taker at Mania would be pretty cool, but I don't count on it at all man. I would like to see Taker vs Jericho, for it would be a great match IMO. Jericho is one of my favorites. Also Daniel Bryan vs Undertaker, or even Cena. I think the fans would be happier to see DB end Taker's streak as opposed to Cena.

[Shenmue18]

The fans would riot if Cena ended Taker's streak, WWE would lose soooooo many viewers, but I'd like to see the match (As long as Taker wins.) because it's believable that WWE would let Cena end Taker's streak because Vinny loves Cena. A Jericho vs Undertaker match would be amazing though.

 

No, I didn't watch Smackdown, but it sounds like it was a pretty good show with The Shield vs Team Hell No and Orton and Curtis Axel vs Chris Jericho. Still probably not going to watch any of it though because I don't want to hear the commentators go on and on about the WWE App 145,232,153,685,368 times in one match.

[Crokey]

Quick Recap of the WWEek

 

Raw - Was average nothing special about it, same old same old stuff.

NXT - Was great as always, if this is the future of WWE then the future is bright... which means the future can't come quick enough.

Superstars - Was alright this week, usual sort of matches

Main Event - Was so-so

Smackdown - Best show this week purely for Daniel Bryan, I know they dub a lot of extra crowd noise onto Smackdown, but that match didn't need it.

 

A little prediction time, Kaitlyn's mystery man is apparently going to be revealed on Monday Night Raw (no it's not me... I wish it was), but I'm guessing that the Wyatt Family are going to debut on Monday night and then on Smackdown Bray Wyatt will start a feud with The Miz on MizTV, the Miz will then win the IC at Payback and Wyatt will challenge for it. Meanwhile Wyatt and Kaitlyn will join up and Ziggler, AJ and Big E will turn Face (or there will be a shake up there) so a now heel Kaitlyn will face a Face AJ for the Diva's title.

[iiConTr0v3rSYx]

Miz and Kofi. Forever stuck going after the IC/US title.

[Shenmue18]

 

Quick Recap of the WWEek

 

Raw - Was average nothing special about it, same old same old stuff.

NXT - Was great as always, if this is the future of WWE then the future is bright... which means the future can't come quick enough.

Superstars - Was alright this week, usual sort of matches

Main Event - Was so-so

Smackdown - Best show this week purely for Daniel Bryan, I know they dub a lot of extra crowd noise onto Smackdown, but that match didn't need it.

 

A little prediction time, Kaitlyn's mystery man is apparently going to be revealed on Monday Night Raw (no it's not me... I wish it was), but I'm guessing that the Wyatt Family are going to debut on Monday night and then on Smackdown Bray Wyatt will start a feud with The Miz on MizTV, the Miz will then win the IC at Payback and Wyatt will challenge for it.  Meanwhile Wyatt and Kaitlyn will join up and Ziggler, AJ and Big E will turn Face (or there will be a shake up there) so a now heel Kaitlyn will face a Face AJ for the Diva's title.

I like those ideas, So does anyone know who WWE hired for their new creative head writer? I heard their last one was fired but never read who the new one was, maybe they don't have one and that's why WWE has been looking so bad recently lol. : P

[Crokey]

... So does anyone know who WWE hired for their new creative head writer? I heard their last one was fired but never read who the new one was, maybe they don't have one and that's why WWE has been looking so bad recently lol. : P

As far as I can gather they still haven't got anyone in as yet, probably why Vinny and Steph have been on the show in last week in order to gain viewers and cover weak stories. From what I can gather they are still looking but apparently they've relaxed their requirements for the head of creative and they want someone who is not as 'multimedia' as the last guy was, as apparently that was hindering their recruitment and was the stumbling block for the last guy. Which was kind of obvious as creating content for shows and then creating content for other media outlets like the website, youtube/yahoo and apparently they've even got a phone App (yeah, I know!?!) would be far too much and requires a different discipline. The main reason for this is that WWE are finally realizing they are better to separate various interests of the business and let them run quasi-independently, than trying to be a jack of all trades and master of none by getting a guy in charge of the whole schmozzle.

[The Pizza Delivery Guy]

Actually a little pumped for RAW tonight, is ANYONE else?

[EmagmaLak]

Orton speaking out against Cena really sounded like a shoot interview. Sometimes it is hard to tell the difference between a legitimate shoot or a secret angle. But that seemed a bit too personal to be worked into a story.

 

I remember the Jeff Hardy / CM Punk shoot interviews, at first i was really thinking it was an angle, but then it got so personal and turned out to be a real life dislike for each other.

[Crokey]

Actually a little pumped for RAW tonight, is ANYONE else?

I would like to say yes, but Raw Go Home Shows of late have been piss poor, and with the build up to this PPV being even pissier (if that is even a word... if not, it is now) then I'm not hopeful... unless they let Daniel Bryan off the leash again, in which case I'll mark out.

 

Shock News:

The Payback Pre-Show, which apparently is now call the "Kickoff to...<insert PPV Title here>"... erm, yeah. Anywho that's not the shocker, the shocker is this PPV Pre-Show.. sorry Kickoff To Payback is between Damien Sandow and Sheamus... oh my, Sheamus relegated to a pre-show.

[EmagmaLak]

Shock News:

The Payback Pre-Show, which apparently is now call the "Kickoff to...<insert PPV Title here>"... erm, yeah. Anywho that's not the shocker, the shocker is this PPV Pre-Show.. sorry Kickoff To Payback is between Damien Sandow and Sheamus... oh my, Sheamus relegated to a pre-show.

Classic WWE booking, nobody does drop it like its hot quite like the WWE.

[Shenmue18]

So, how was Raw everyone? Was there any good matches or segments? I keep hearing about Vince McMahon seeming like he's about to turn heel or something, apparently they're having him treat Stephanie and Triple H poorly and Triple H and Steph are mad at him plus it looks like his promo last week was very heel...ish with him looking down on the crowd and saying that "I'm beginning to think all of you are beneath Triple H too."

 

 

[EmagmaLak]

So, how was Raw everyone? Was there any good matches or segments? I keep hearing about Vince McMahon seeming like he's about to turn heel or something, apparently they're having him treat Stephanie and Triple H poorly and Triple H and Steph are mad at him plus it looks like his promo last week was very heel...ish with him looking down on the crowd and saying that "I'm beginning to think all of you are beneath Triple H too."

Has he ever really been a face HHH's retirement lasted all of 5 minutes, but in all honesty they need some big names to still be around as the card is weak. Back in the attitude era most of the roster wouldn't of even made the dark matches.

 

But one huge benefit of the current WWE, Stephanie McMahon being back and she is hottttttt.

[Shenmue18]

He turned face back a couple years ago I think, all of 2012 whenever he would make an appearance it was as a face.

 

Anyone hear the Raw ratings for yesterday? I'm hoping that they've gone down again.

[Crokey]

Not saw Raw yet, but I thought this was burntastic

 

 

Zack Ryder - @ZackRyder

[email protected] do you want your oversized glass jaw broken?

 

 

Dolph Ziggler - @HEELZiggler

- “@ZackRyder: @HEELZiggler U want your oversized glass jaw broken?” - U sending @RealJackSwagger? or is this on @WWE superstars?

[Shenmue18]

According to Sescoops, Mark Henry will be returning on Raw next week.

 

In other news, this is my 1,000 post! So everyone, welcome to the party and treat yourself to some cake, ice cream and pie.

[EmagmaLak]

According to Sescoops, Mark Henry will be returning on Raw next week.

 

In other news, this is my 1,000 post! So everyone, welcome to the party and treat yourself to some cake, ice cream and pie.

But where are said treats?! Congratulations

 

The only return i want to see is CM Punk. He is just about the only single talent worth watching on a regular basis.

[iiConTr0v3rSYx]

According to Sescoops, Mark Henry will be returning on Raw next week.

 

In other news, this is my 1,000 post! So everyone, welcome to the party and treat yourself to some cake, ice cream and pie.

But where are said treats?! Congratulations

 

The only return i want to see is CM Punk. He is just about the only single talent worth watching on a regular basis.

You don't like Daniel Bryan?

 

I hear they want to turn Bryan heel for a Summer feud with Cena.

Big mistake for WWE if they turn him heel, he's way over with the crowd.

[Crokey]

I hear they want to turn Bryan heel for a Summer feud with Cena.

Big mistake for WWE if they turn him heel, he's way over with the crowd.

WWE don't like doing face v face, however there is times when this can work (Wrestlemania 6, Hogan v Warrior), I think this may be one of them.

 

Also Smackdown looks interesting this week, not wah-hey, but interesting.

[EmagmaLak]

You don't like Daniel Bryan?

 

I hear they want to turn Bryan heel for a Summer feud with Cena.

Big mistake for WWE if they turn him heel, he's way over with the crowd.

I don't mind him, but his just one of them wrestlers i can't fully buy into. It's the same way i felt about RVD, clearly talented and over with the fans, but just not someone i ever took a huge interest in.

 

CM Punk i like because he reminds me of a younger Chris Jericho, amazing and funny at being heel, but the fans secretly love it. I mean this was Chris Jericho being heel, but how can you not love this:

 

 

 

If you have never seen this, one of the best promos EVER.

[Shenmue18]

WWE can go f*ck themselves if they turn Bryan heel, this guy is 10 times more over then Cena, and but because WWE f*cking sucks Cena's dick, they're going to turn him heel and ruin his popularity with the casual and kid fans, all the regular and hardcore fans will still cheer him though.

 

Also, Jericho's Man of 1,004 Holds promo is a classic.

Edited June 12, 2013 by Shenmue18

[EmagmaLak]

Just a little backstory on me here, i used to be a HUGE wrestling fan. From the early WCW days until around 2007 i was a huge fan, then i kind of fell out of love with it. But i am still in possession of a huge about of wrestling memorabilia, magazines, books, photos, DVD's. Little bit of everything really.

 

I own every single WWE magazine from 2003 - 2008. Well, they were Smackdown and Raw magazines until around 2006, then they merged into one magazine.

 

Anyway, whilst looking through, i found my signed copy of Matt and Jeff Hardy's autobiography. Now unfortunately i never got it personally signed, my aunt went to a book signing of there's in around 2003, in New York i believe, and brought me this back as a present.

 

 

 

I also have a signed Christy Hemme photo with a certificate of authentication. Purely because i thought she was sexy as hell. Still do.

[Meekail]

 

Paul Heyman Interview

 

What fans can expect from CM Punk this Sunday in his match with Chris Jericho: "You can expect to see CM Punk do what CM Punk does on a daily basis in his career, which is demonstrate to the WWE Universe that he is worthy of the distinction of being the best in the world."

 

Dixie Carter recently saying that she would do a WWE / TNA crossover event: "I'm sure that Dixie Carter would love to do a WWE versus TNA pay-per-view. Why wouldn't she? A friend of mine who has way too much time on his hands just started a new beverage company here in the United States. It's called Shmuley's Soda Company and he's now distributed in three stores in the Bronx and two in Brooklyn.

 

"He would like to do a global promotion with Coca-Cola. I don't suggest that Coca-Cola would be profitable having to do a global co-promotion with Shmuley's Soda Company. In the same way it would make no sense for WWE with 95% global share to do an event with TNA with its 5% global market share!"

 

His ideal WrestleMania 30 main event: "I have a very standard answer for that because it's the most genuine answer I can give someone. I think the main event for WrestleMania 30 should be a battle for the WWE Championship against the World Heavyweight Championship, to unify the titles.

 

"And that match should feature Brock Lesnar versus CM Punk, with Paul Heyman advising both men and therefore getting a percentage of the profits of both sides of the main event at WrestleMania."

 

Full interview: http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/s216/wwe/news...estlemania.html

 

Source: Digital Spy

[Flesh-n-Bone]

Only thing that interests me for Payback is Randy Orton & Daniel Bryan's tag match. Will Randy turn heel? That's my big question.

 

Otherwise it's a pretty bleh card.

[Shenmue18]

I'm betting on Daniel Bryan turning heel as he's supposedly going into a feud with John Cena and WWE always loves to give us the exact OPPOSITE of what we want (Keeping Cena face and the top guy, not turning Orton heel which is what Randy HIMSELF actually wants, turning Punk into a chicken heel.)