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[Corndawg93]

But it's terrible for the rest of the whole company to bury people and no selling their moves, to focus on one man instead of several is why the company has such a hard time finding other guys to take main event spots after Cena burying people for years and year and why they probably won't ever be able to turn Cena heel. like I said though, the latter part of the Rock/Cena segment had some great parts by Cena, so I did enjoy that.

That I don't understand, WWEs logic makes no sence

[Shenmue18]

It's really not Cena's fault that he has the gimmick he has, WWE is just retarded. If he had an interesting character he could have a lot of potential, that's why I'm dying to see him turn heel as he was great as a heel before.

[Corndawg93]

It's really not Cena's fault that he has the gimmick he has, WWE is just retarded. If he had an interesting character he could have a lot of potential, that's why I'm dying to see him turn heel as he was great as a heel before.

It would be nice if he did turn Heel and went back to his Rapper gimmick

[Shenmue18]

Definitely, his rapper gimmick was great. I heard someone say he should turn heel and his gimmick should be a AWOL Marine. (That would fit Randy Orton better though. : P) But I'd highly prefer him going back to his old rapper gimmick, he even had a shade of it in him last Raw getting in Rock's face and taunting him like that, especially with that arrogant smirk on his face.

[Corndawg93]

Why's Randy Orton on NXT

[Stryfaar]

Don't tell me Orton's gonna be a jobber.

[Ryda King]

His rapper gimmick was laughable. Although maybe that was the point.

[Shenmue18]

Don't they have big name stars at NXT, like once in a blue moon? Maybe it's just one of those occasions? I doubt Orton will be a jobber, he sells a good deal of merch... Then again so does Zack Ryder. : /

[Crokey]

Why's Randy Orton on NXT

Lots of the big names have been in NXT over the past year or so while they've been at Full Sail University Studios, Del Rio, Punk, Cena, HBK, Triple H, Big Show, Cesaro, Ryback, Ziggler, AJ and loads more... except The Rock

[Prometheus]

RAW was okay I guess, but not good enough for a pre-WM show. CM Punk's comment when the fans started chanting ECW was rather hilarious to be honest - "Speaking of deadmen..." Not much else I could remember about the show except for the "main event" Rock/Cena promo, very likely Cena will turn heel post-WM. Though I'd love to see Lesnar contending for the WWE Championship.

 

Seen a "Rock/Lesnar at ER?" news title at a dirt sheet site*, it could be one quite interesting [Extreme Rules] match, right? Also Ken Shamrock [who was an awesome theme song] might be returning, a feud between him and Ryback would be perfect.

 

*Didn't open the link because I didn't really want to spoil much - I've already did that with one WM main event. And pretty much this:

 

 

Wrestling is no fun when you always know who's going to win - it's like watching a blow-out football game.

[Flesh-n-Bone]

If Cena turns heel, he should NOT go back to his rapper gimmick. That was nice and all but let the past stay in the past. He needs to change completely to an aggressive destroyer kinda like Brock Lesnar, except he actually talks. That's like Orton going back to being the "Legend Killer" even though he himself is a legend at this point.

 

And what did Orton do in NXT? I wanna know if it was something interesting so I go out of my way to see it and if not, just skip it.

[Corndawg93]

If Cena turns heel, he should NOT go back to his rapper gimmick. That was nice and all but let the past stay in the past. He needs to change completely to an aggressive destroyer kinda like Brock Lesnar, except he actually talks. That's like Orton going back to being the "Legend Killer" even though he himself is a legend at this point.

 

And what did Orton do in NXT? I wanna know if it was something interesting so I go out of my way to see it and if not, just skip it.

Orton was in a match against Damian Sandow

[Ryda King]

John "Fruity Pebbles" Cena? A destroyer? F*cking lmao.

[Flesh-n-Bone]

John "Fruity Pebbles" Cena? A destroyer? F*cking lmao.

Believe it or not, he's damn good when he gets intense in his beatdowns.

 

 

 

 

Or in 2003 when he called out Brock Lesnar before Wrestlemania.

 

[Ryda King]

He's a shltty wrestler and can't ever be taken seriously by me. Most likely by most others as well. It's like trying to make Brodus Clay or Santino serious again.

[Flesh-n-Bone]

 

He's a shltty wrestler and can't ever be taken seriously by me. Most likely by most others as well. It's like trying to make Brodus Clay or Santino serious again.

Generic Smark #3215902973597297.

 

Next.

[Corndawg93]

He's a shltty wrestler and can't ever be taken seriously by me. Most likely by most others as well. It's like trying to make Brodus Clay or Santino serious again.

Generic Smark #3215902973597297.

 

Next.

It's not his fault he can't see a good wrestler when he sees one, tell me Ryda what did John Cena ever do to you, did he ever bully you, did he ever beat the crap out of you, no so shut the f*ck up and and stop bagging someone because of the gimmick they have

[Ryda King]

 

He's a shltty wrestler and can't ever be taken seriously by me. Most likely by most others as well. It's like trying to make Brodus Clay or Santino serious again.

Generic Smark #3215902973597297.

 

Next.

It's not his fault he can't see a good wrestler when he sees one, tell me Ryda what did John Cena ever do to you, did he ever bully you, did he ever beat the crap out of you, no so shut the f*ck up and and stop bagging someone because of the gimmick they have

He's not a good wrestler. He does his five moves of doom, and if he attempts any other move, he botches it worse than Sin Cara. He has no originality and never goes outside of his comfort zone. He never does anything new, or mixes it up, or invents new moves, or does a move we haven't seen in a long time.

 

Like Antonio Cesaro. That's a true wrestler.

 

What did Cena do to me? He's ruined WWE, which I've watched since I was about 5 years old.

 

F*ck Cena and all his retarded fans.

Edited March 28, 2013 by Ryda King

[Stryfaar]

Enough Cena talk. lol. WM29 anyone? MetLife Stadium.

 

[Flesh-n-Bone]

 

It's not his fault he can't see a good wrestler when he sees one, tell me Ryda what did John Cena ever do to you, did he ever bully you, did he ever beat the crap out of you, no so shut the f*ck up and and stop bagging someone because of the gimmick they have

It's just that everything he says is like a carbon copy of the most popular "IWC" opinions around.

 

Wrestler loses a match? BURIED!

John Cena? HE CAN'T WRESTLE!

Why? HE ONLY KNOWS 5 MOVES!

 

This "5 move" fad needs to die. Ric Flair is arguably the greatest wrestler of all time and his entire moveset consisted of about 5 moves too, specially if we exclude the "dirty" moves such as the Eye Poke and Testicle Claw. (Shinbreaker, Chop Block, Figure Four Leglock, Knee Drop, Knife Edge Chops)

[Ryda King]

It's not his fault he can't see a good wrestler when he sees one, tell me Ryda what did John Cena ever do to you, did he ever bully you, did he ever beat the crap out of you, no so shut the f*ck up and and stop bagging someone because of the gimmick they have

It's just that everything he says is like a carbon copy of the most popular "IWC" opinions around.

 

Wrestler loses a match? BURIED!

John Cena? HE CAN'T WRESTLE!

Why? HE ONLY KNOWS 5 MOVES!

 

This "5 move" fad needs to die. Ric Flair is arguably the greatest wrestler of all time and his entire moveset consisted of about 5 moves too, specially if we exclude the "dirty" moves such as the Eye Poke and Testicle Claw. (Shinbreaker, Chop Block, Figure Four Leglock, Knee Drop, Knife Edge Chops)

All of those are true. Darren Young getting squashed by Cena on Raw was getting buried. He used the 5 moves.

 

No, it doesn't need to die because it's true. Look at Antonio Cesaro. Does something different every time, and has great matches. He doesn't do the same thing every time and he's talented as hell.

 

Ric Flair? Yeah, he's good. Not the greatest of all time.

[Corndawg93]

It's not his fault he can't see a good wrestler when he sees one, tell me Ryda what did John Cena ever do to you, did he ever bully you, did he ever beat the crap out of you, no so shut the f*ck up and and stop bagging someone because of the gimmick they have

It's just that everything he says is like a carbon copy of the most popular "IWC" opinions around.

 

Wrestler loses a match? BURIED!

John Cena? HE CAN'T WRESTLE!

Why? HE ONLY KNOWS 5 MOVES!

 

This "5 move" fad needs to die. Ric Flair is arguably the greatest wrestler of all time and his entire moveset consisted of about 5 moves too, specially if we exclude the "dirty" moves such as the Eye Poke and Testicle Claw. (Shinbreaker, Chop Block, Figure Four Leglock, Knee Drop, Knife Edge Chops)

Flesh has got a point there

[Capricornus]

Always loved Flair's failed attempt at a high risk maneuver off the top rope. He'd just climb up there only to get thrown down. I think he hit it once though.

[Shiva.]

This "5 move" fad needs to die. Ric Flair is arguably the greatest wrestler of all time and his entire moveset consisted of about 5 moves too, specially if we exclude the "dirty" moves such as the Eye Poke and Testicle Claw. (Shinbreaker, Chop Block, Figure Four Leglock, Knee Drop, Knife Edge Chops)

Hey don't forget his "please, don't hurt me" move.

 

Tuned into RAW via Youtube. The show was nice. I know CM Punk will surely escape as soon as the lights went off.

 

I loved how aggressive Jericho was throughout his match wit Ziggler. This Fandango guy has a really future ahead him. He'll surely become the next Santino Marella, I guess.

 

I didn't like the Rock\Cena promo much. Hell, I had to open a new tab to check out some Buzzbook. The Hall of Famer's nicely added to the Winning and Loosing debate by not sliding on anyone's side. I still don't get, what Rock's really into. I mean, before few weeks or so, he was like "I respect you, Cena." when Cena said, he will beat Rock but now he's like "WHO THE HELL YOU THINK YOU ARE?"

[Crokey]

This "5 move" fad needs to die. Ric Flair is arguably the greatest wrestler of all time and his entire moveset consisted of about 5 moves too, specially if we exclude the "dirty" moves such as the Eye Poke and Testicle Claw. (Shinbreaker, Chop Block, Figure Four Leglock, Knee Drop, Knife Edge Chops)

That is a little unfair to Flair (lol Bobby Heennan reference).

 

Ric Flair had 6 moves, Shinbreaker, Chop Block, Figure Four Leglock, Knee Drop, Knife Edge Chop and his trusty blade

 

Also The Undertaker is coming to the UK after Wrestlemania which interestingly Punk isn't and he's not been advertised for a good while after Wrestlemania, so he's probably going to lose and take time off due to injuries etc. The interesting part is that The Undertaker is probably going to make this his last UK appearance as all the indicators are that WM30 will be his last... although I hope that they don't go by the tradition of losing your last match.

 

Also Del Rio will continue to by the big hitter with the WHC belt, as well as Ziggler throughout the rest of the year, hopefully that means Sthwagger is getting de-pushed.

[Flesh-n-Bone]

 

That is a little unfair to Flair (lol Bobby Heennan reference).

 

Ric Flair had 6 moves, Shinbreaker, Chop Block, Figure Four Leglock, Knee Drop, Knife Edge Chop and his trusty blade 

 

Also The Undertaker is coming to the UK after Wrestlemania which interestingly Punk isn't and he's not been advertised for a good while after Wrestlemania, so he's probably going to lose and take time off due to injuries etc.  The interesting part is that The Undertaker is probably going to make this his last UK appearance as all the indicators are that WM30 will be his last... although I hope that they don't go by the tradition of losing your last match.

 

Also Del Rio will continue to by the big hitter with the WHC belt, as well as Ziggler throughout the rest of the year, hopefully that means Sthwagger is getting de-pushed.

Ha, he didn't even need a blade at times. He would just hit himself in the forehead with his knuckles and start bleeding.

 

And interesting to see Undertaker in UK. Wonder what he'll be up to. Really wish he had wrestled Brock instead this year. And so glad Punk is taking time off because I can't stand him at all.

 

Smackdown looks to be boring for a very long time. Even if Thwagger gets depushed, there'll be two other boring individuals in the picture (Ziggler and Del Rio). Hope that means Orton turns heel and enters the WWE Championship picture if Cena remains face. That way I can completely skip Smackdown.

 

lol @ Ryda King getting busted.

[Shiva.]

And interesting to see Undertaker in UK. Wonder what he'll be up to. Really wish he had wrestled Brock instead this year.

Yeah, that would have been a great match but then Triple HHH would have had little to do in Wrestlemania.

 

Alright now, excuse me for my BS prediction but I don't really believe Big Show's gonna join hands with Sheamus and Orton in defeating The Shield. I mean, what if he turns against Orton and Sheamus itself. It had happened so many times before in WWE and it would really serve as a good plot twist. Suppose, the match is drifting to it's end with Orton dominating and getting ready to connect one among the trios (The Shield) with a RKO while Sheamus is suffering outside the ring from the injuries, he got during the match while Show is standing apron wondering if Orton will make the tag whilst also cheering up for Orton. Meanwhile Orton is all ready to connect a RKO to his opponent and surprise!

Big Show lays Orton down with a knock-out punch from behind followed by one among The Shield to pin Orton for the win!

The next week on RAW, Show joins The Shield?!

 

Once again, apologise for letting my imaginations go crazy but I couldn't help throwing it off my chest.

[Flesh-n-Bone]

No, if anyone is gonna turn heel in that match, it's Orton. Show is doing nothing and is old. Orton is still young and needs to have his character freshened up. Plus he's been begging for a heel turn for months so he might just get that.

 

It also makes sense with him being the "voice of reason" in that team and suddenly being the backstabber in the end. Either that, or WWE will keep being boring and have The Shield win clean.

[Prometheus]

And interesting to see Undertaker in UK. Wonder what he'll be up to. Really wish he had wrestled Brock instead this year.

Yeah, that would have been a great match but then Triple HHH would have had little to do in Wrestlemania.

 

Alright now, excuse me for my BS prediction but I don't really believe Big Show's gonna join hands with Sheamus and Orton in defeating The Shield. I mean, what if he turns against Orton and Sheamus itself. It had happened so many times before in WWE and it would really serve as a good plot twist. Suppose, the match is drifting to it's end with Orton dominating and getting ready to connect one among the trios (The Shield) with a RKO while Sheamus is suffering outside the ring from the injuries, he got during the match while Show is standing apron wondering if Orton will make the tag whilst also cheering up for Orton. Meanwhile Orton is all ready to connect a RKO to his opponent and surprise!

Big Show lays Orton down with a knock-out punch from behind followed by one among The Shield to pin Orton for the win!

The next week on RAW, Show joins The Shield?!

 

Once again, apologise for letting my imaginations go crazy but I couldn't help throwing it off my chest.

It's not plot twists, it's just Vince changing his mind more than a hooker on...well, you know what I mean.

 

Ryda's banned? B-B-But, why? He's the top poster of the topic by the way. The greyhound isn't really far from him, only 30 posts away from the nursing home Gareth!

 

Also on Cena, to be honest he can be quite entertaining at times unlike the rest of the roster. His "major" feuds are always great to watch. Ryda, up there in the sky, if you're reading this, which do you think was better - the Cena/Lesnar feud, or the HHH one? Cena/Rock or Punk/Rock? and all the Cena/Punk feuds, there were quite amazing.

[OliRow]

Very sad to hear Reid Flair, Ric's youngest child, passed away this morning at the age of 25.

 

He had drug issues previously, but seemed like he was getting his life back on track.