Resident Evil 4

[Tornado Rex]

So I don't know if any of you heard, but Resident Evil 4 got leaked. Well, the Taiwan English version (Biohazard 4).

 

So I've been reading around on it. I was hella excited about the game when I heard it was going to be ported to the PC (you'll understand the "was" in a minute). If you check around your favorite gaming message boards you'll find that's there's quite a big controversy going on. I'll try to sum it up.

 

First thing is the graphics. It's a direct PS2 port which means, for the most part, the graphics suck compared to modern games (post 2005). The character model looks alright, but the background scenery looks like complete ass. This isn't a big issue for me personally though as graphics, by far, don't make or break a game.

 

The big thing for me is there's NO f*ckING MOUSE SUPPORT. This is where the big controversy comes in. There's people saying "it's meant to be played with just a keyboard", "it works great with a gamepad", etc and vise versa on the other side.

 

Now for a little rant of mine. In my opinion a PC game, by default, should include mouse support. I'm a PC gamer. I love my WASD and mouse. It's how I play games. Give me any shooter on a PC and I'll generally do pretty damn well. Give me the exact same game on a console and you'll kick my ass 11 times out of 10 (no that's not a typo). I've never been able to shoot with a console controller and I never plan to be able to. Why? Because I don't find it fun. It's more tedious than anything to me to try to shoot sh*t that's moving with two analog sticks and a button. Sure, I could practice for days on end and probably get the hang of it, but I don't want to. I like using my mouse to blow heads off. Now there's people running around on the boards saying "oh it would be too easy with a mouse, you'd get a headshot every time blah blah blah". f*ck that. I've seen videos of Halo players out there. If they took me on with their XBOX and I was on my PC they would f*cking annihilate me without even blinking. Anyway, [/rant]

 

So I'm looking for your opinions on both this game (if you've tried it) or on the general controversy of mouse support in PC games (mainly shooters).

[vint_cool]

I agree with you dude, the plus point of PC games are the tunable gfx options and mouse support ! I can never imagine playing half life 2 on consoles....and its not only with FPS, take any game like GTA SA, the mouse control makes the game a lot better !

 

I think the port was just a half assed attempt to rake in the extra dough owing to the game name ! But to be honest, I was very excited about a PC port of the game, I've never played anyone in the series b4 as I dont own a PS2....so just wanted to try one before its released on x360 !

[B Rob]

I beat it a couple times on PS2 and I thought it was a great game. It will be even better in PC I bet.

[flitcroft101]

Capcom/Ubisoft didn't hype it up so it was obvious it was going to be a sh*tty port. As for mouse support? that would ruin the game... headshots over and over, zzz.

[sainraja]

I would just get the game for PS2/Gamecube, specially if what you say is true. It doesn't seem like it was worth the wait....but the game shouldn't look worse than it does on the PS2/Cube so it should still look as good as it did on the consoles.

Edited February 7, 2007 by sainraja

[GTA3Freak-2001]

Having been out of the Resident Evil loop since Nemisis and the first two Resident Evil GC ports I don't have any information on Resident Evil 4 so don't laugh. Is Resident Evil 4 not using the traditional 3rd Person auto-target system or something?

[Twang of Cauliflower]

Having been out of the Resident Evil loop since Nemisis and the first two Resident Evil GC ports I don't have any information on Resident Evil 4 so don't laugh. Is Resident Evil 4 not using the traditional 3rd Person auto-target system or something?

It's an over-the-shoulder view. I don't believe there is an auto-aim.

[anuj]

A friend called me from Taiwan a few days ago, saying she saw this at one of those cheap little shacks full of pirated stuff. She asked me if I wanted a copy.

 

Thank God that I saw the screenshots beforehand. I told her to go to hell.

 

(Nah, she's a sweetheart)

 

The graphics are amazingly ass. I mean, seriously. They were so bad that I could make better stuff myself on this 1.6ghz laptop using 3DS Max 4.

 

I couldn't believe there was no mouse support either. This game and Gears of War just seem like they'd be perfect for mouse support. Like, the game would be amazingly fun with mouse look. But no, they took the one most obvious feature to add to the game AND SAID NO, TO HELL WITH YOU WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS FRUSTRATING.

 

edit - I bought a PS2 copy. With the exception of the cutscenes not being rendered in the real-time engine, it's just as good as the GC version. I love this game.

[Tornado Rex]

As for mouse support? that would ruin the game... headshots over and over, zzz.

Why should that matter though?

 

Think of it this way. There's people who can use a 360 controller better than they can use a mouse and keyboard. Does that mean they shouldn't allow 360 controllers to be used in the game?

 

Why should you limit the control of a game because it would be "too easy"? Should we all of a sudden take joysticks out of flying games because it's "too easy" and just make people use a mouse and keyboard?

 

 

With the exception of the cutscenes not being rendered in the real-time engine, it's just as good as the GC version.

Yeah that's the problem with the PC game too. They ported from the PS2 version so you get FMVs rather than the real time rendering. Which is stupid because any PC made post 2004 easily render that game in real time.

[Mafia Righthand_Man]

That's sucky. I can't imagine trying to play it without the mouse. Though I'm guessing a few months into release, someone might come up with a tweak so you can use the mouse.

[Tornado Rex]

That's sucky. I can't imagine trying to play it without the mouse. Though I'm guessing a few months into release, someone might come up with a tweak so you can use the mouse.

People are already releasing tools to support it. They all suck though. The best one out there uses a hook, but it's laggy and not very precise.

 

The problem everyone is running into is they have to emulate a gamepad stick with the mouse, which in turn causes it to lag. Someone might eventually be able to do it, but it's looking like it'll take a while.

[E.A.B.]

 

I would just get the game for PS2/Gamecube, specially if what you say  is true. It doesn't seem like it was worth the wait....but the game shouldn't look worse than it does on the PS2/Cube so it should still look as good as it did on the consoles.

The PS2 port got extras

 

lousy bastards.

 

I don't know why people say its impossible to shoot with a control. People make it out to look impossible. Ah well, personal preference, I guess.

 

I've played shooters without a mouse, it's not difficult, so long as your gun doesn't move all the way up in the air with the slightest touch of the arrow key. They should have mouse support on it, though it should be optional. Choices are good.

[sainraja]

 

With the exception of the cutscenes not being rendered in the real-time engine, it's just as good as the GC version. I love this game.

 

Really? I never noticed that. I have played both versions. I have finished the PS2 version though. Is it with all the cutscenes or just some of them?