Crackdown

[TheDude5000]

Well Crackdown is almost upon us. The demo was recently released, and we're only a couple weeks away from release. So I decided to create this, the Official Crackdown Thread. Gears Of War has one, why can't Crackdown?

 

The Official Crackdown Topic

 

Official XBox Page

 

New blog about weapons:

http://blogs.ign.com/Real_Time_Worlds/2007/01/31/45311/

 

New interview:

http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/773/773714/vids_1.html

 

I've been waiting for this game since Fall 2005, when Game Informer did a cover story on it. Now it seems everyone is jumping on the bandwagon like they did with Saint's Row.

 

Anyway, I finally got around to trying out the demo today, and I thought it was fantastic. Unlike Saint's Row, this game is actually innovating in the open-world genre, and I'm very excited about that. Saint's Row felt stale, this game feels very fresh. I like the super-human aspect, I love the vertical design of the city. Kicking vehicles and having them flip over is just so cool. Using almost any object in the environment as a throwable weapon is quite nice too. I will say the music was really not too good at all, neither was the way it was handled. Also, the targeting system is pretty bad. It's like it'll target anything but the people shooting you. It'll target a parked car, or a box, but not the guy right in your face with a shotgun. Combat is still very solid and pleasing, once you actually target an enemy. Jumping, and then firing on your enemies mid-air is pretty awesome. Melee fighting is also great, I love knocking enemies 20 feet in the air and having them land and splash blood all over the place. Throwing cars at them is quite fun too. Jumping around the environment looking for orbs is quite addicting too. About the graphics, I think they are great. Cel-shading, but not to a ridiculous level. Great reflection mapping on vehicles, and the environments just look very vivid and full of life.

 

I can't wait for this game, I've been waiting for so long...I've been hyping this game towards my friends, they kept trashing it. Now? Now they've changed their minds.

Edited February 2, 2007 by TheDude5000

[GTA3Freak-2001]

With the targetting issue I found that its only locks onto the closet target to where you have your cross-hair aimed at the time so you kinda have to face the target you want before locking on.

 

But yeah great game so far, leaping from rooftop to rooftop is awesome as is all the superhuman aspects its the twist these kinds of games needed to make them fresh again. I just feel annoyed that MS felt the need to shove bloody Halo 3 Betas into the game like they felt the game wouldn't make it on its own merits. Its got the guts to make it on its own!

[TheDude5000]

With the targetting issue I found that its only locks onto the closet target to where you have your cross-hair aimed at the time so you kinda have to face the target you want before locking on.

 

But yeah great game so far, leaping from rooftop to rooftop is awesome as is all the superhuman aspects its the twist these kinds of games needed to make them fresh again. I just feel annoyed that MS felt the need to shove bloody Halo 3 Betas into the game like they felt the game wouldn't make it on its own merits. Its got the guts to make it on its own!

Nah, that's not it. For example, my reticle is concentrated on an enemy in front of me, and it'll target something in the background.

 

 

I totally agree about the Halo 3 beta, I don't like that at all. I don't know why RTW allowed them to do that, it's going to taint this game's image. I can wait till fall to play Halo 3, they are revealing enough info about the game as it is. They can just toss a few screens out every now and then, and the game will still sell like hotcakes due to it's name alone. No need to shove the Halo 3 beta onto Crackdown..

 

 

Though the demo broke download records:

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/759/759785p1.html

 

 

the Crackdown playable demo was the most downloaded demo for a 24-hour period and the most downloaded demo during a seven day (week-long) period.

 

People are going to buy this game on it's own merits, but with the Halo 3 beta packed in, it won't seem that way.

[GTA3Freak-2001]

I am I the only one who thinks Halo is overrated? Sure I've played and enjoyed both previous games but not anymore then most FPS's I've played. Oh well lets just hope the extra sales boost will allow Real Time Worlds to make APB a really great game.

[Bauer]

I am I the only one who thinks Halo is overrated?

Yes, you are the first. Well, unless you count the holy sh*tload of other people.

 

Yeah... I played the demo. It initially felt really cool. The atmospheric and seasoned voice over and selecting a supercar and driving through that tunnel. I knew I was going to enjoy this.

Then I get a crap combat system with a bunch of tacky, forgettable enemies that are so weak I just stopped bothering killing them. The driving mechanics are better than Saints Row, but it is much less exciting.

 

The multiplayer is better. With the game memorizing every object in the game you alter and the ability to go anywhere with a friend is awesome.

 

Maybe the full game is better, and I will rent this when its released. But until then I'll be playing Saints Row. Only 4 more levels of the last mayhem and 15 more tags and my perfect pre-missions gamesave is complete!

[GTA3Freak-2001]

I think the car handling is on par with Just Cause, as in vehicles just seem to slide over the roads but to be far your driving skill raises throughout the game so we may find at its peak its much better. Not that driving happens as much, its the onfoot action that is where the game excels and when you can jump 25 feet who needs them anyway?

[SyphonPayne]

I preordered it. It's a cool game.

[AndyGanteks]

Can anybody give me a link with some pictures of this game and is it coming for ps3??

[papanesta]

Not that driving happens as much, its the onfoot action that is where the game excels and when you can jump 25 feet who needs them anyway?

I love being in the middle of a gunfight, and you lose your armour.

 

Then you just leap to the nearest rooftop for cover.

[Andy...]

To be honest it's not as brilliant as I expected but I do like the fact that you can take a crime boss either by going right at him or by sneaking across a few rooftops to get straight to him.

 

Driving is crap though in my opinion. But hey, i only downloaded the demo yesterday so maybe it needs more time...

 

 

Yes Halo is overrated in my opinion although the multiplayer campaign was quite cool.

[zeta1]

Driving what? I only drive the cab, instant smash and boom.

 

Halo Overrated? I'll tip my hat to that.

 

I don't have much to say since Crackdown was a factor in the overheating of my console. It's on it's way to Microsoft's Repair Shop in Mcallen, Texas. That is not to say I will be first in line to buy the damn game even if it breaks my 360 again and again.

[SIP YEK NOD]

Driving is crap though in my opinion. But hey, i only downloaded the demo yesterday so maybe it needs more time...

 

Get your driving skill to level 4 by running over bad guys, jump in the agency SUV, and see if you can still say that

 

 

the demo is great, i can't wait for this game

[RMT]

I am I the only one who thinks Halo is overrated?

Nope. I hate that game with a passion. I also hate the 10 year old scum that play it online professionally and act like pricks. Which is mostly everyone.

 

I was skeptical about this at first. But the demo has changed my mind. Can't wait for it. I also managed to make it to the top of the agency building which owned. You only need *** in Agility. And the view is amazing, you can see the whole map. And the awesome thing is that you can see cars and people too. I need to take a sniper rifle up there at some point.

[vint_cool]

Is it true that this game doesnt have any interiors unlike GTA games ? I mean I heard from one guy who played the demo that you cant get inside buildings, you can get only on top of them !

 

 

[RMT]

Nope. But the roof tops make it up. RTW said they wanted the city to go up rather then be big. Which really works well.

[Andy...]

Oh noes you can't go inside buildings!!!!!!

 

Who cares when there's so much carnage and destruction outside. I expect there will be some missions based inside buildings but you may not be able to go inside them whenever you want willy nilly.

 

 

 

Get your driving skill to level 4 by running over bad guys, jump in the agency SUV, and see if you can still say that 

 

Heh, I have to admit that it pretty damn cool. Still not sure if I will buy the game however.

 

 

[Rob.]

I am I the only one who thinks Halo is overrated?

No, i never completed Halo 2 (got bored at the part where you play as the alien)

And i had to complete the original Halo on co-op becuase it was too boring on my own.

 

GTA is the only game i've ever queued to buy on launch day.

[BroDan]

Level 4 jump is f*cking awesome just because I love landing with a thud.

 

Level 4 driving is awesome for the Agency vehicles, it's so cool to watch them transform.

 

It's definately on my list as a must-buy game.

[GTA3Freak-2001]

I take back what I said of the driving being dodgy, just had a session only upping my driving and only just realised that your agency cars actually transform based on your level which is totally awesome. Seeing the SUV go from a crappy little thing into an almost monster truck and even the supercar turning into a machine gun dragster. And of course the driving becomes much more enjoyable. I had awesome fun with the full upgraded Semi Truck using its nitro feature to smash gang cars usually instantly killing the occupants.

 

Anyone know if the transforming will apply to traffic cars in the full game, the activation of lvl 4 driving seemed to imply the non-agency cars will transform but only slightly?

[Daz]

The game is nowhere near as deep as Saints Row was, or even as good.

 

Usually I would strike this game down with my fist but I may actually get it. Not only for the extreme fun it is to jump from rooftops for hours just being satisfyed collecting orbs, throwing cars and objects around and collecting all the guns. But also for its awesome co-op features.

 

What drags the game down the most is easily the shooting. Although being able to shoot free in manual aim it really is pointless, even when locked on with fully automatic weapons are completely useless, even at *** 3 stars, some weapons are better as you rank up but the default gang weapons tend to suck even still. You will find yourself just kicking everyone as it is much easier to kill multiple enemies that way.

 

Other aspects I dont like is how your character and vehicle will change with no choice on how they can look. I know I am going to choose a character then later on upgrade and have him ending up looking real queer with a pony tail or mustache I dont even want, and it will be impossible to change.

 

 

 

This game is still a poor effort for a next gen game, but those who care less about games will probably not mind, its possible I will buy this, but ONLY for its platforming and co-op aspects.

 

By two weeks finished or not I highly doubt I will play it again.

[TheDude5000]

Deep? Saint's Row was deep?! Are you kidding me? The game was very stale. There were main story missions, with side missions(that weren't even side missions really) tacked on to artificially lengthen the game, and that's all there was! You could purchase new things, and find hidden discs to unlock more music, but that's pretty much all there was to do. That game was as deep as a coffee mug full of water.

 

This game is so innovative and fresh, I consider that deep. Saint's Row didn't do anything new, this game is doing a lot of things new, to expand the open world genre.

 

 

This game is still a poor effort for a next gen game, but those who care less about games will probably not mind

 

Oh, what a dickish thing to say. So because you state your opinion, that makes it fact? So because you said it was, this game is now a poor effort? Because you said so, anyone who plays this game has lower standards than you? Get over yourself. I can't possibly believe how someone would look at Saints Row, such a shallow re-hashed game(which I own), and then say it's better than Crackdown, which is not re-hashing, which is innovating, which is keeping the open world-genre fresh, and looks so much deeper and bigger than Saint's Row in every way.

[Rob.]

How do you up your driving in the demo?

[Andy...]

Run people over in a car seems to be the most popular way although you can also do races to up your driving skill and also hit the stunt markers. I think the last two ways make your driving level go up faster than running over gang members.

 

I would like to throw my previous opinions out of the window now as I just had a session where I got my strength to maximum and my god that is fun. Kicking a police car and watching it soar through the sky only to squash a couple of enemies is really satisfying. I think I may get this game now.

[RMT]

So because you state your opinion, that makes it fact? So because you said it was, this game is now a poor effort? Because you said so, anyone who plays this game has lower standards than you? Get over yourself. I can't possibly believe how someone would look at Saints Row, such a shallow re-hashed game(which I own)

Dude. Irony.

 

Did you really have to go NATO on him? Daz only stated his opinion. Which wasn't a dickish thing. How-ever your post did come accross as. The last point he made was that people who don't read up on gaming stuff daily nor even monthly and just buy a game without knowing really anything about it wont mind how many flaws they are. Because they wont analyze the game like a avid gamer would. I totally agree with him. And for the record, I enjoyed Saints Row, no matter how cheap and dirty it made me feel. It filled the void because we didn't have any GTA last year.

 

Oh and 4x * driving is awesome. I don't like how the supercar changes from a Audi A4/Ferrari Spider to the batmobile, but the guns make up for it. I now need to try out 4x * firearms.

[GTA3Freak-2001]

Saints Row wasn't that deep but it was deeper then Crackdown is, but then again both games aimed at different aspects like Saints Row was more SP orientated while Crackdown is more MP Co-up mayhem.

[TheDude5000]

Saints Row wasn't that deep but it was deeper then Crackdown is, but then again both games aimed at different aspects like Saints Row was more SP orientated while Crackdown is more MP Co-up mayhem.

Believe me, I've played plenty of Saints Row to come to the conclusion that it is not deeper. But I didn't start this topic to argue over which game is deeper, I just wanna talk about Crackdown, so let's drop this...

 

Anyway, kicking vehicles and having them flip over is indeed very cool. Once you get used to the controls and what not, you can really manipulate your environment to your advantage, and things become very enjoyable. I personally like kicking enemy vehicles into enemies, or kicking cars off of a bridge.

[Bauer]

I've played the demo a lot lately and, although hoping for something that would sell this game for me, I just couldn't find it. It's fun for a while... but it's so tacky and bland at times that I just can't get myself to like it. I find myself constantly comparing Crackdown to Saints Row and constantly being disappointed. I'd rather play Saints Row for now.

 

I'm still crossing my fingers over GTA IV...

[Quadropheniac90]

I think this game is really cool. I find it addicting to get my Agility way up and see how high you can get. I haven't maxed out driving, strength, or any other skills yet, but I have to see what changes when I do. I'm gonna buy this, Saints Row, the demo, just didn't do it for me. This is something new, and I like it.

[BroDan]

The game shines in co-op. I was playing with a mate from work last night and the ability to go anywhere you want without the person uyou're co-oping with means you can have some major fun.

 

Also it's cool when you can get into the car with them. Plus you can kill each other if you want, my mate went for 4* Agility whilst I got 4* Strength then I kicked his sorry arse right through the air and killed him.

 

The only 4* I haven't tried yet are Firearms and Explosives but I might wait for the full game before I spoil everything.

[Daz]

I wasnt saying only things I like count, it IS a fact that the shooting is very poor, and I was saying that I for one look very deeply into shooting in games, and those who care less about that aspect wont mind, Im not saying you like games less, but even then thats nothing to be offended by.

 

Where I expect games to last a long time where as people with less time on their hands usually dont care if it lasts long, that is because thats most of what I do with my time.

 

 

The point is Saints Row sticked to what it claimed to be, an action driver/shooter, and although because of the engine it couldnt preform well as a driver, but the shooting although not perfect, were definately the best in any free roaming driver/shooter made to date. It did what it said on the tin. Where as Crackdown is also a driver/shooter, with some other aspects, but the core theme is not even perfected before they move on to the extra features. Thats why I feel Saints Row out preforms Crackdown, for what its made for.

 

You wouldnt buy a car with plastic wheels, just because the stereo and air conditioning are good.