Raindancer Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Which one do you think will win the format war? Dont know if anyone remember's the VHS Vs Betamax battle. Plus i dont really want to spend X amount of money on one format, only to find out 6 months later that no more films are being made for that brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Andreas Nut Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 I think HD DVD will win the war.. I could be wrong though, but from what I have read Blu Ray has implications with production & various other issues. but you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyZimmzy Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Definatly gonna be Blu-Ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost-Fender Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 I give a null vote. Blu-ray is already strong, with released movies and the PS3 and its games. But, HD DVD has Xbox 360, but unlike the PS3, your need an external drive. On the other hand, HD DVD has pr0n. So it's pretty even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seddo Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Im not really bothered which format wins, but i so reckon that HD-DVD will win, didnt porn win the VHS v's Betamax battle and porn is already on HD-DVD's, its different now than 20 odd years ago but i still think that HD will win, so that gets my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenaciousD. Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 I don't really mind, I'll give it a while and see what wins, then I'll jump on the bandwagon then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papanesta Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Will Blu Ray be specific to PS3, or are DVD players being made that can play Blu Ray? Sony DVD players, I would guess. There will be more DVD players, plus the 360, that will play HD DVD, so I think it will win in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_-playero-_ Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Blu-ray players? Sure there are, and not only from sony. around $200 to $500 more expensive than HD-DVD though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haifaiv Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Well my dad's in the home cinema and hi-fi industry and even he doesn't seem all that sure. They both seem pretty strong but by the sounds of it BluRay is less cost-effective. I think his company's planning to develop a drive that handles both. Who knows, Sony might have royally f*cked themselves on this one. Time will tell, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyzoot Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 I think the general public are going to go with HD DVD as the name sounds closer to 'DVD'. Think about it, if you're one of those people who know nothing about home entertainment etc then you're more likely to go with HD DVD as it seems more related to DVD rather than Blu Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOGA62 Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 from what I've heard the developers of HD already have third generation HD prototypes including things like HD3D where you can view 3D without the use of special glasses and such. They are just to expensive right now to put into development. if this is true sounds to me like HD is going to win. Social: TOGA62 PS3: balltowellamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauer Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 I think the general public are going to go with HD DVD as the name sounds closer to 'DVD'. Think about it, if you're one of those people who know nothing about home entertainment etc then you're more likely to go with HD DVD as it seems more related to DVD rather than Blu Ray Wow... I think people who desire a HD format will do the research, making the name of the format kind of moot when it comes to deciding. But I see your point, the public can be kind of pathetic. And way to go askew, TOGA62! Because I have a 360, I'm going with HD-DVD due to the fact that I don't need to invest too much. Microsoft's strategy really works! But I would not buy the $200 player and the high-priced movies for the 360 until I knew that HD-DVD won. And I wouldn't really jump into it instantly, either. 1080i movie channels are good enough for us right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOGA62 Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I think the general public are going to go with HD DVD as the name sounds closer to 'DVD'. Think about it, if you're one of those people who know nothing about home entertainment etc then you're more likely to go with HD DVD as it seems more related to DVD rather than Blu Ray Wow... I think people who desire a HD format will do the research, making the name of the format kind of moot when it comes to deciding. But I see your point, the public can be kind of pathetic. And way to go askew, TOGA62! Because I have a 360, I'm going with HD-DVD due to the fact that I don't need to invest too much. Microsoft's strategy really works! But I would not buy the $200 player and the high-priced movies for the 360 until I knew that HD-DVD won. And I wouldn't really jump into it instantly, either. 1080i movie channels are good enough for us right now... how did i go askew, im talking about HD... for the less intellectually inclined *looks up* who seem to not understand what I was getting at, the future of HD seems brighter and has a better chance of happening sooner then the next step for blue ray due to there already being 2nd and 3rd gen developments already created. So thats why I think HD will do better. Social: TOGA62 PS3: balltowellamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauer Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 if this is true sounds to me like HD is going to win. Topic title: HD DVD or Blu Ray See my point? You are right that future developments may make this format war obsolete, your saying that "HD" is going to win doesn't really relate to the topic. Unless in HD you meant HD-DVD, and not High Definition in general, but I doubt it. Of course HD will win, but with which format? I see your point but I also am emphasizing how I interpreted your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star-Lord Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 To be honest to from what I have been seening lately I think neither. As their is a company which I won't mention but has come up with a way of combining both formats and is or has produce a player that will play both formats on one single drive. Then you have A new DVD HD-Disc format for the PC which will work on your ordinary red laser DL drive. Then you have your upconverters that can produce Almost HD quality out of regular dvds. So this tells us that anything could happen it just not about HDDVD or Bluray anymore. Everyone is trying to come up with something HD related that will stick. I believe High Definition is here to stay but the battle will not be just between HDVD or Bluray. Imagine this I heard on the (Today Show) that even some radio stations will be brocasting in HD Audio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA3Freak-2001 Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 if this is true sounds to me like HD is going to win. Topic title: HD DVD or Blu Ray See my point? You are right that future developments may make this format war obsolete, your saying that "HD" is going to win doesn't really relate to the topic. Unless in HD you meant HD-DVD, and not High Definition in general, but I doubt it. Of course HD will win, but with which format? I see your point but I also am emphasizing how I interpreted your post. I am fairly certain he was meaning HD-DVD, using HD for short which yeah isn't a wise choice since HD is High Definition as a whole. Anyway so far HD-DVD is in the lead and I'd prefer to root for them but honestly its too early to tell so smart thing to do is wait and see who wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthYENIK Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I'd say HD-DVD. Blu ray looks good, but most of hollywood is putting more money into HD-DVD. The real question is which one will get a player under $200(not the HD-DVD add-on for 360). And HD-DVD looks to be closer to that goal than Blu ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_-playero-_ Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 What the hell, buy both players, buy different movies in different formats... wait some years, then sell the everything from the loosing format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayo Puño Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I'm going with the history repeats itself theory, and taking HD-DVD. UMD, that stupid Sony discman sh*t, and now Blu-Ray, I just don't see it going anywhere. Plus, $750 for a Blu-ray PC drive is insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Andreas Nut Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I'm going with the history repeats itself theory, and taking HD-DVD. UMD, that stupid Sony discman sh*t, and now Blu-Ray, I just don't see it going anywhere. Plus, $750 for a Blu-ray PC drive is insane. do they really cost tht much? fark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindancer Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 (edited) I'm going with the history repeats itself theory, and taking HD-DVD. UMD, that stupid Sony discman sh*t, and now Blu-Ray, I just don't see it going anywhere. Plus, $750 for a Blu-ray PC drive is insane. do they really cost tht much? fark. VHS recorders used to be about that price when they were new. I am not to fussed about the price, as they will drop quite fast once the market is in full swing. Looking at all your answers, I am now in two minds. One of the main reasons for buying a PS3 was the Blu-ray drive, I thought that Sony would of cleaned up and HD DVD would vanish. How wrong am I! As said above, I did hear that you can put Blu Ray and HD DVD on one disc, which obviously would solve all the problems. But I don’t think that would be cost effective to the powers that be, I doubt very much that would be a popular idea. (Good idea, but not worth paying say double the price for a film) *EDIT* Just found this on the BBc news site Toshiba has launched its new high-definition DVD player in Europe, marking the start of a battle for living room domination. The electronics firm wants consumers to use their HD-E1 DVD system rather than the rival Blu-Ray format. Blu-Ray is being backed by electronics firms Sony, Samsung and Panasonic as well as a number of film studios. The tussle between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray is similar to the 1980s war between VHS and Betamax video, analysts said. Toshiba has forecast 500,000 worldwide sales of its HD-DVD player by March 2007. Its system will retail for about £450, roughly half the price of Blu-ray. A more feature-laden HD DVD player from Toshiba - the HD-XE1 - is planned to launch from late January 2007 for around £649. Despite differences, both of the new DVD formats offer greater storage capacity than traditional players to cope with the increased size of encoded images needed for high-definition televisions. And both players have an internet connection, which adds further possibilities of downloadable extras and film teasers. HD-DVD discs contain up to 30 gigabytes (GB) of data, compared with 50 GB for Blu-ray. Disney and 20th Century Fox are backing Blu-ray, while Universal is supporting HD-DVD. Warner Bros and Viacom have said they will support both. With no agreement between studios, both formats may continue to exist side-by-side for a while, analysts said, adding that many consumers may put off buying a system until a clear winner emerges. Edited January 18, 2007 by Raindancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper. Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Doesn't really matter to me. As long as I can watch the movie I'm ok with either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tornado Rex Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 IMO Blu-Ray is the better format. I think HD-DVD will win the "war" though. From a production standpoint, HD-DVD is incredibly cheaper to manufacture. IIRC HD-DVD only costs $.10 or something more than a normal DVD (so around $.60 or something), whereas Blu-Ray costs around $2.00 more. My numbers may be wrong, but I know a Blu-Ray disk costs a lot more to make than an HD-DVD one. Sony has been sucking up the marketing department lately for all their new technology so unless they get their sh*t together and fire their marketing director they don't stand a chance in hell of getting the "mainstream" HD format. As for the prices of the drives. They'll all come down, it's still a new technology and the companies are just trying to make up the cost of development. ~ Proud Supporter of the Child's Play Charity! | GTANET + Child's Play ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutuz Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Blu Ray 6 Words. Computer people who need bigger backups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Bear Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 I had always figured I'd wait until there was a clear winner before choosing either one. Until I heard that Blu-ray won't be allowing porn. Now, that in and of itself doesn't matter to me. I've never bought, or even watched a porn DVD. But I refuse to support censorship, whether it be something that effects me directly, or something that will never effect me. I had been planning to get a PS3 eventually, but due to this, I'm now even reconsidering that decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tornado Rex Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 I had always figured I'd wait until there was a clear winner before choosing either one. Until I heard that Blu-ray won't be allowing porn. Now, that in and of itself doesn't matter to me. I've never bought, or even watched a porn DVD. But I refuse to support censorship, whether it be something that effects me directly, or something that will never effect me. I had been planning to get a PS3 eventually, but due to this, I'm now even reconsidering that decision. Where was that news? I heard the porn industry decided to side with HD-DVD, but I didn't know Blu-Ray outright banned it from their format. And where the f*ck have you been. It's like your crawl out of a hole every 8 or so months. ~ Proud Supporter of the Child's Play Charity! | GTANET + Child's Play ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Bear Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 I had always figured I'd wait until there was a clear winner before choosing either one. Until I heard that Blu-ray won't be allowing porn. Now, that in and of itself doesn't matter to me. I've never bought, or even watched a porn DVD. But I refuse to support censorship, whether it be something that effects me directly, or something that will never effect me. I had been planning to get a PS3 eventually, but due to this, I'm now even reconsidering that decision. Where was that news? I heard the porn industry decided to side with HD-DVD, but I didn't know Blu-Ray outright banned it from their format. And where the f*ck have you been. It's like your crawl out of a hole every 8 or so months. http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/news/show/S...s_No_Thanks/433 Apparently Digital Playground did choose Blu-ray, but all of the Blu-ray facilities are refusing to publish their movies, and Sony has threated to revoke their licenses if they do. I would've thought Sony learned their lesson from Betamax. And where the f*ck have you been. It's like your crawl out of a hole every 8 or so months. Yeah, I don't read the boards much these days, and I post a lot less that that. Every eight months or so sounds about right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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