The Anti-MTV Topic

[DarkRukario]

This topic is for us to argue about mtv. it's just so... stupid. let's argue what do ya dudes think about thiz thing?

[GodfatherITB]

it is kinda dumb how its called music televison and its hardly got any music on it.

[Mr.Robot]

 

I like mtv2, subterranean is a good show. I tend to watch every week(sunday night).

[gta_player5]

Alright, this is my opinion on MTV, I feel that MTV has corrupted music today. Why do I think that? I has publicized music an incredible amount, which is good, but by doing this bands and artists begin to do things for the money, thus "corrupting" the people in music. It also sort of projects an image that most kids who watch MTV feel they need to mirror, which is also a negative. MTV has done some good by exposing lesser known artists to the public, but than MTV makes those artists become money hungry and do it for that.

 

Also, like previously stated, MTV airs very little music now. A lot of it is reality t.v. shows, following random people around in their everyday lives.

[Venom]

Alright, this is my opinion on MTV, I feel that MTV has corrupted music today.

Silly.. MTV is music.

Sure, they have some seriously random shows.. but how many other MTV channels are there dedicated to certain types of music?

[Canoxa]

Since I only get MTV Portugal, I'll only comment on what I see.

 

It's pretty weak. They've been doing a good job promoting portuguese hip hop, but whenever a larger, crappier, comercial artist comes up promoted by a TV network and backed up by a show (flows like water these days, it's horrible) MTV uses it to death. As for international music, the only place I can get decent music is in "Super Top", where they pass a selection of ten songs chosen and commented by portuguese music or television stars. There is no rock and few decent rap.

 

VH1 for the win.

[lesfleanut]

Video's have ruined music.... Even if all MTV did was play videos, it would still be evil. It's all about image these days.

[meth.]

Yeah half the time the vid has nothing to do with the song. Most of the time the videos are just the same tired recycled ideas being replayed and rewhored over & over.

 

Plus they can't even keep there corny shows on the main channel. Now mtv2 is be overrun with crap. And mtv2 needs a wider variety to play. There's other music in the world besides lil john & my chemical romance.

[CptCharisma]

Here you Canada we have MTV Canada, but we also have a channel called Much Music which shows music videos and alike. Anyways, talk about terrible videos anyone see that new 30 Seconds to Mars vid, theres more talking than music, and you have to wait 5 minutes just for the music to kick in WTF.

 

I honestly can't stand Much Music or MTV and one of the bigges reason, their hosts, this chick on Much Music just sounds so fake when she talks I can't stand it why can't you just talk normally its so annoying.

[TheDude5000]

MTV sucks cow balls. They were great in the 80's and 90's, but they are one of the worst channels now.

 

 

Emo sh*t, pop sh*t, R&B sh*t, and rap sh*t. That's what they play, whenever they actually play music. The rest of their programming consists of dumb people doing dumb sh*t.

 

 

MTV is a joke.

 

At least VH1 balances it's crappy Celebrity shows with good shows, and at least they play videos of good bands. And VH1 Classic Rock plays great metal/rock shows, plays great videos from great bands. That channel easily beats every single MTV channel combined. VH1 has great documentaries based on music, great shows about popular culture from decades you actually have interest in.

 

VH1 for the win, indeed.

[Sly_Madman]

VH1 for the win.

No, VH1 Classic for the win. Cheesy 80s music videos and a kickass rock hour. I wish I had satellite so I could get VH1 Classic. I watched it whenever I went down to my mom's house, but she switched to Comcast and doesn't get it anymore. Oh well, she gets some Nick channel that shows all the shows I watched when I was a kid, like Legend of the Hidden Temple. Nostalgia for the win.

 

Anyway, I'm getting off topic. MTV does suck. If someone were to make a chart of MTV's progress (musically) from it's beginning in 1980-something to now, you'd see a steady increase to about '91, then the start of a drastic fall. This is probably the lowest point in the networks history. And I think they know it, too. Recently I saw a commercial that said something like "Do not believe everything you hear. MTV doesn't play music" or some retarded campaign like that. f*cking retarded commercial, too.

[Gta Master.]

Yeah half the time the vid has nothing to do with the song. Most of the time the videos are just the same tired recycled ideas being replayed and rewhored over & over.

 

Plus they can't even keep there corny shows on the main channel. Now mtv2 is be overrun with crap. And mtv2 needs a wider variety to play. There's other music in the world besides lil john & my chemical romance.

that reminded me a lot of this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=GwEMRGJC44M (Roots :: What They Do, dope video)

 

but yeah...MTV sucks.

[Canoxa]

VH1 for the win.

No, VH1 Classic for the win. Cheesy 80s music videos and a kickass rock hour. I wish I had satellite so I could get VH1 Classic. I watched it whenever I went down to my mom's house, but she switched to Comcast and doesn't get it anymore. Oh well, she gets some Nick channel that shows all the shows I watched when I was a kid, like Legend of the Hidden Temple. Nostalgia for the win.

Probably. I don't have a satellite aswell, Vh1's just bundled in the cable's package.

[Twang of Cauliflower]

MTV is great...

 

 

•It tells me what music not to listen to.

 

•In a sense, having a mainstream media outlet to distract the teeny boppers sure makes the 'underground' flourish.

 

•Gives you a chance to look informed by naming bands that people around you have never heard of.

 

 

amirite?

[Canoxa]

MTV is great...

 

 

•It tells me what music not to listen to.

 

•In a sense, having a mainstream media outlet to distract the teeny boppers sure makes the 'underground' flourish.

 

•Gives you a chance to look informed by naming bands that people around you have never heard of.

 

 

amirite?

Good point, but I kinda feel frustrated for not having anyone to discuss my love for certain types of music.

[Scarface187]

VH1 for the win.

No, VH1 Classic for the win. Cheesy 80s music videos and a kickass rock hour. I wish I had satellite so I could get VH1 Classic. I watched it whenever I went down to my mom's house, but she switched to Comcast and doesn't get it anymore. Oh well, she gets some Nick channel that shows all the shows I watched when I was a kid, like Legend of the Hidden Temple. Nostalgia for the win.

 

Anyway, I'm getting off topic. MTV does suck. If someone were to make a chart of MTV's progress (musically) from it's beginning in 1980-something to now, you'd see a steady increase to about '91, then the start of a drastic fall. This is probably the lowest point in the networks history. And I think they know it, too. Recently I saw a commercial that said something like "Do not believe everything you hear. MTV doesn't play music" or some retarded campaign like that. f*cking retarded commercial, too.

Word.

 

 

Even though most of the time metal mania consists of a lot of hair bands they still show a decent amount of awesome videos. Also I notice they've been airing the classic album series recently too. Those are good too, along with "Classic Concerts" like Judas Priest - Live at Budakon, Rush - R:30, Queensryche - Operation: Livecrime and Pink Floyd - Pulse.

 

 

Mtv on the other hand is crap. Its not even really about the music anymore. I mean I heard at the vma's they gave the best video award to Panic! at the Disco of all bands. I've lost all faith in that channel. Even the movie awards aren't even good anymore.

[Lost-Fender]

MTV is worst thing I've ever seen, even worse than that stupid frog.

 

Here's what MTV has done: many classmates (girls specially) go and see MTV and nothing more. They gladly eat the crap MTV feeds them. Just put any crap in it, and they'll "like" it. And they've become pretty ignorant of music. For them, anything with guitars and a drum kit is rock. Anything with african american men and luxury is hip hop. And "hip hop but with women is R n' B". Where the f*ck are the subgenres?

And I don't see it as a music channel, it's more full of reality shows than music. And the only times they do put music, it's crap, mostly mainstream pop, and then other genres.

[Big Slow]

 

These days MTV's idea of being "edgy" consists of putting 5 people on a bus, having one person judge them within 5 seconds of seeing them and yelling "Next!" if they dislike what they see; followed up by a short montage of entirely too scripted one liners and euphemisms degrading the dismisser and the shamed contestant. However, once that became a little to tame for prime time, they incorporated the gay and lesbian card. Anything for ratings baby! That's just the start of what MTV calls entertainment programming today. Other wonderful shows include "Date My Mom" in which to procure a date with their daughter, a suitor must first woo the prospective mother, often by admitting everything they would do to the daughter on the first date. Then there's everyone's favorite "drama" MTV has originated, "My Sweet Sixteen". Anyone who has watched this absolutely putred waste of time, money, and film knows exactly what I'm talking about. I can't even imagine why a person would sign up for a show with such a premise. Do they not understand that everyone is going to watch the show and laugh at how utterly pretentious they are, how arrogant and spoiled their parents make them? Apparently viewers are so irritated at the audacity of these irritating, ignorant brats that they are captivated to the show, exactly what MTV exec's want. Moving along onto the latest installments of "The Real World" (in whose title seems almost ironic and downright comical) MTV has created the perfect combination of teenage angst and soft-core porn. Apparently the FCC will raise hell about Janet Jackson's exposed tiddlywink, but a torrent of naked individuals in a hot tub makes for good standard cable. Now, I'm no prude, but when a television conglomerate markets nothing but opportunistic, stereotypical, degrading, carbon copied crap, it makes me sick. This is not entertainment, this is a sign of our times. I used to complain that MTV hasn't lived up to it's name, which would imply it actually played music, now I can't even understand why the word is there. The only music you hear is 10 second clips from the flavor of the week in music, playing behind two girls ripping each other's hair out. This is not music television, this is the downfall of society in moving pictures.

 

Section of an article I wrote for composition awhile ago.

[Jay]

MTV is great...

 

 

•It tells me what music not to listen to.

 

•In a sense, having a mainstream media outlet to distract the teeny boppers sure makes the 'underground' flourish.

 

•Gives you a chance to look informed by naming bands that people around you have never heard of.

 

 

amirite?

That is such an optimistic and fresh outlook. Brilliant.

 

I dont watch MTV, nor have access to it... but when sh*t like Pimp My Ride, Jackass and its seemingly neverending slew of tryhard spinoffs dominate the programming of what is essentially Music Television, you know something is wrong.

[Gantons Most Wanted]

in my opinion MTV is the sh*t thing ever theres no decent music or variation its because of them its all this rnb bullsh*t an its killin music i mean how anybody can say lil jon is a good artist is f*cked up the guy only ever says 3 different words i mean if i wanted to go watch a retard try to rap i'd go watch this d*ckhead in my year at school who thinks hes great when really hes a nerd with no friends and gets ripped to sh*t lyrically plus only time i'd watch MTV is if it was its last few minutes of airtime ever and then i'd throw a party an the music wouldn't be the sh*t plastered an played every 5 minutes from Mtv

[Tommy B]

I know I'm going to come off sounding like an old guy here, but here goes anyway: MTV is the worst thing to ever happen to music. With the introduction of music videos into our already image-obsessed society, it suddenly became more important to look good than to sound good. Look at bands/musicians before MTV: Janice Joplin, Jimmy Hendrix, Aerosmith, Bob Dylan. The Rolling Stones. Good music, all of it. Coincidentally enough, all butt-ugly musicians, too. Afterwards, we get people like N'Sync, Britney Spears (or any one of a dozen virtual clones of her that sound exactly alike!), and people like that. Sure, they look good for the videos, but their music is crap. It's all cookie-cutter pop garbage that all sounds alike because it's cranked out by writers working for the recording studio, who know it dosn't matter what the song SAYS, it's how the "video vixen" LOOKS singing it! The whole Milli-Vanilli thing a decade ago is a perfect example of this: The guy who wrote and performed the songs didn't have the "look" the record company wanted, so they hired two guys who looked good for the videos. This led to these models having to lip-synch in order to perform the same songs "live" in concert. Surprise! It didn't work out, and several careers were ruined and perfectly legitimate performers were made into a walking joke because of it.

Further, videos are crap because without then, you LISTENED to the music, and had your own ides of what the artists was trying to say. With video, you have some coked-up "director's" idea of the song's message. Worse, as I said before, most times the music isn't saying anything at all, in which case you just have jailbait shaking their moneymakers to some mindless raver-club drumbeat.

MTV needs to go away.

[Lost-Fender]

I know I'm going to come off sounding like an old guy here, but here goes anyway: MTV is the worst thing to ever happen to music. With the introduction of music videos into our already image-obsessed society, it suddenly became more important to look good than to sound good. Look at bands/musicians before MTV: Janice Joplin, Jimmy Hendrix, Aerosmith, Bob Dylan. The Rolling Stones. Good music, all of it. Coincidentally enough, all butt-ugly musicians, too. Afterwards, we get people like N'Sync, Britney Spears (or any one of a dozen virtual clones of her that sound exactly alike!), and people like that. Sure, they look good for the videos, but their music is crap. It's all cookie-cutter pop garbage that all sounds alike because it's cranked out by writers working for the recording studio, who know it dosn't matter what the song SAYS, it's how the "video vixen" LOOKS singing it! The whole Milli-Vanilli thing a decade ago is a perfect example of this: The guy who wrote and performed the songs didn't have the "look" the record company wanted, so they hired two guys who looked good for the videos. This led to these models having to lip-synch in order to perform the same songs "live" in concert. Surprise! It didn't work out, and several careers were ruined and perfectly legitimate performers were made into a walking joke because of it.

Further, videos are crap because without then, you LISTENED to the music, and had your own ides of what the artists was trying to say. With video, you have some coked-up "director's" idea of the song's message. Worse, as I said before, most times the music isn't saying anything at all, in which case you just have jailbait shaking their moneymakers to some mindless raver-club drumbeat.

MTV needs to go away.

Amen. It is the whole truth. I've seen so many pop fools that can't even sing, yet they have the "looks", and so forth... Most pop crap nowdays is nonsense. The lyrics are plain crap. And all songs are about the same crap. It's just depressing how music industry is nowdays... examples? Go watch MTV.

[Phalanxe]

My advice: Quit f*cking complaining. Find music you like and listen to it. MTV isn't the only source of music out there. Look into the indie scene and be willing to take risks. No need to start a topic about what everyone already knows.

 

Besides, I doubt any of you could sing like some of the pop stars of today. It may not be "good" music, but they can still do something you can't.

[De_Spank]

I know I'm going to come off sounding like an old guy here, but here goes anyway: MTV is the worst thing to ever happen to music. With the introduction of music videos into our already image-obsessed society, it suddenly became more important to look good than to sound good. Look at bands/musicians before MTV: Janice Joplin, Jimmy Hendrix, Aerosmith, Bob Dylan. The Rolling Stones. Good music, all of it. Coincidentally enough, all butt-ugly musicians, too. Afterwards, we get people like N'Sync, Britney Spears (or any one of a dozen virtual clones of her that sound exactly alike!), and people like that. Sure, they look good for the videos, but their music is crap. It's all cookie-cutter pop garbage that all sounds alike because it's cranked out by writers working for the recording studio, who know it dosn't matter what the song SAYS, it's how the "video vixen" LOOKS singing it! The whole Milli-Vanilli thing a decade ago is a perfect example of this: The guy who wrote and performed the songs didn't have the "look" the record company wanted, so they hired two guys who looked good for the videos. This led to these models having to lip-synch in order to perform the same songs "live" in concert. Surprise! It didn't work out, and several careers were ruined and perfectly legitimate performers were made into a walking joke because of it.

Further, videos are crap because without then, you LISTENED to the music, and had your own ides of what the artists was trying to say. With video, you have some coked-up "director's" idea of the song's message. Worse, as I said before, most times the music isn't saying anything at all, in which case you just have jailbait shaking their moneymakers to some mindless raver-club drumbeat.

MTV needs to go away.

Hey man alot of those guys were quite the sex back in their youth. Young Bob Dylan gives me a hard on.

 

But yeah, MTV i tend to avoid. The majority of it sucks however there is the odd nugget of interesting content from time to time.

[Tommy B]

My advice: Quit f*cking complaining. Find music you like and listen to it. MTV isn't the only source of music out there. Look into the indie scene and be willing to take risks. No need to start a topic about what everyone already knows.

 

Besides, I doubt any of you could sing like some of the pop stars of today. It may not be "good" music, but they can still do something you can't.

Wow. Nice manners there, junior. Sounds like someone's missing the point of the internet!

See, the internet (AKA "teh Intarwebz") is a place for people from diverse parts of the world to come together in a "virtual community" to share common interests, discuss ideas, share information, and occasionally, even bitch about stuff they don't like. Message boards such as this one facillitate this process. Members may reply to topics that appeal to them, or even start new ones if they wish. If a topic doesn't interest you, or if you don't share the viewpoint being discussed therein, then you can opt not to open that topic. Usually the best way to see whether or not you share the viewpoint in question is by reading the subject line.

For example, if a topic is headlined "Anti MTV Topic" and you're an ill-mannered MTV fanboy (or worse, a bored MTV executive!), then you can opt not to engage in that topic, rather than wasting your time and energy by "trolling" (i.e.needlessly insulting those participating while adding nothing of substance or intelligence to the conversation).

 

In other words, if you're bothered by an "Anti-MTV Topic", then either debate the merits (or lack therof) of MTV in a polite, rational manner, or just don't bother opening the topic in the first place.

[Phalanxe]

 

My advice:  Quit f*cking complaining.  Find music you like and listen to it.  MTV isn't the only source of music out there.  Look into the indie scene and be willing to take risks.  No need to start a topic about what everyone already knows.

 

Besides, I doubt any of you could sing like some of the pop stars of today.  It may not be "good" music, but they can still do something you can't.

Wow. Nice manners there, junior. Sounds like someone's missing the point of the internet!

See, the internet (AKA "teh Intarwebz") is a place for people from diverse parts of the world to come together in a "virtual community" to share common interests, discuss ideas, share information, and occasionally, even bitch about stuff they don't like. Message boards such as this one facillitate this process. Members may reply to topics that appeal to them, or even start new ones if they wish. If a topic doesn't interest you, or if you don't share the viewpoint being discussed therein, then you can opt not to open that topic. Usually the best way to see whether or not you share the viewpoint in question is by reading the subject line.

For example, if a topic is headlined "Anti MTV Topic" and you're an ill-mannered MTV fanboy (or worse, a bored MTV executive!), then you can opt not to engage in that topic, rather than wasting your time and energy by "trolling" (i.e.needlessly insulting those participating while adding nothing of substance or intelligence to the conversation).

 

In other words, if you're bothered by an "Anti-MTV Topic", then either debate the merits (or lack therof) of MTV in a polite, rational manner, or just don't bother opening the topic in the first place.

It's not that I like MTV. I don't. At all.

 

The point is, how many times are we going to have this same topic? It's getting tired. Everyone needs to just get on with doing whatever makes them feel good and let everyone else do the same, even if pop culture isn't necessarily "good." I used to be like you guys, trying to avoid pop culture and bad music, but I realized that it honestly doesn't matter. I'll listen to my obscure, experimental, and thought filled music and let those who like simple catchy loops do as they please. You should all do the same.

 

WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS LISTEN TO INDIE

 

Seriously. So much better.

Edited December 22, 2006 by Phalanxe

[Paco]

Indie is the answer to life.

[just another thug]

Indie is the answer to life.

Not really.

 

While the "indie" scene is flourishing, it is really good to expand beyond just that one genre.

[iRloading]

 

MTV is great...

 

 

•It tells me what music not to listen to.

 

•In a sense, having a mainstream media outlet to distract the teeny boppers sure makes the 'underground' flourish.

 

•Gives you a chance to look informed by naming bands that people around you have never heard of.

 

 

amirite?

so true

 

saddens me young 'uns no longer know sublime, nirvanna or anthrax to name a few (they're not THAT old)

 

i "outgrew' MTV when jackass' first season was done and realized it turned into a punk/rap music channel

 

I mean the random prince video would be nice, not the same friggin' 50 cent video played over and over and over again~

 

was eerie tho... whatever was "hot" in MTV, would be reflected in the environment/people around me~ like t'was some form of hypnotic religion/cult

 

though most in my generation have learned to branch away from MTV and find their musical nirvana, the younger ones are the "MTV generation" once again~

 

here in asia, as I know there's only MTV asia and Channel V, channel V ain't a "standard" but is more popular in countries like singapore~

[Phalanxe]

Indie is the answer to life.

Not really.

 

While the "indie" scene is flourishing, it is really good to expand beyond just that one genre.

Indie isn't a genre. It's more just the concept of freedom and creativity, regardless of what the actual genre the music is. Yes, I'll agree that there might be the occasional mainstream artist worth listening to, but a large amount of it today isn't worth listening to..in that sense, indie is the answer.