Valencia Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 1. The mafia.After their loss of Salvatore Leone 2.The yakuza.After their loss of Asuka and Kenji(if Asuka dies by catalina) 3. Diablos,Triads,Hoods,Yardies(not likely) I'd say the mafia because of their weapons and money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyZimmzy Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 The Yakuza, with Claude by their side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valencia Posted December 13, 2006 Author Share Posted December 13, 2006 is claude still working for the Yakuza in the end? I think he's something like a free agent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintdave Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Claude works for whoever offers the most money or quickest route to revenge. The strongest gang at the end of the game in terms of numbers would probably be the Leones but the death of their leader and constant fighting with the Forellis and Triads doesn’t bode well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greene Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Claude works for whoever offers the most money or quickest route to revenge. The strongest gang at the end of the game in terms of numbers would probably be the Leones but the death of their leader and constant fighting with the Forellis and Triads doesn’t bode well. This is likely. The Leones would be weakened by the loss of Salvatore but its still got some good men such as Toni and Luigi (Im not so sure about Joey). The Yakuza are more than likely crippled due to all its leaders (Kenji and Asuka) being killed. The death of Kenji and Asuka also more than likely means that Claude has no reason to help the Yakuza. Besides his only loyalty is to himself. As for the smaller gangs, they probably gained more turf but i don't think they would become significantly stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valencia Posted December 14, 2006 Author Share Posted December 14, 2006 did you notice by the way that claude is the only main character who ends up with nothing at the end? He's still the same guy he was in the beginning of gta III but now he got some money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder. Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Nope, he gets... Money New Clothes Three Savehouses Pretty good eh? Ontopic: What if some new gang emrged? and Just blasted the crap out of everyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valencia Posted December 14, 2006 Author Share Posted December 14, 2006 Nope, he gets... Money New Clothes Three Savehouses Pretty good eh? Ontopic: What if some new gang emrged? and Just blasted the crap out of everyone? yeah could be, just like the sicilian mafia tried to in LCS Maybe the Zaibatsu is coming up after GTA III, that's a good one isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder. Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Pfft, what about those people... the Smilies I think (I never played GTA1 that much) Or maybe my Tarkers could come through! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valencia Posted December 14, 2006 Author Share Posted December 14, 2006 you mean the loonies? they look so dumb they fully deserve to get splattered by my wheels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarjar Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Claude works for whoever offers the most money or quickest route to revenge. The strongest gang at the end of the game in terms of numbers would probably be the Leones but the death of their leader and constant fighting with the Forellis and Triads doesn’t bode well. Thats right, in GTA3 it's not about being in a gang and earning respect, your more of a hitman, so it's more about making money. You don't care who you work for or who you have to kill, it's not the big deal in GTA3. Your just out for revenge, nothing more or less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valencia Posted December 15, 2006 Author Share Posted December 15, 2006 Claude works for whoever offers the most money or quickest route to revenge. The strongest gang at the end of the game in terms of numbers would probably be the Leones but the death of their leader and constant fighting with the Forellis and Triads doesn’t bode well. Thats right, in GTA3 it's not about being in a gang and earning respect, your more of a hitman, so it's more about making money. You don't care who you work for or who you have to kill, it's not the big deal in GTA3. Your just out for revenge, nothing more or less. He did all that just to get at Catalina? Lame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucewayne909 Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Yeah I thought Claude's only purpose was revenge was kind of boring. Oh well. In my opinion the Mafia ends up the strongest if Toni Cipriani takes over instead of Joey Leone and the Yakuza grows the strongest if Claude remains working for them. Toni vs Claude? It's definetly Claude and the Yakuza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarjar Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Well think about, if you we're in love with someone and all of a sudden they back stabbed you, left you for dead and you got thrown in jail for it, do you think you would be very have and just let them get away with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pranjal Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Well think about, if you we're in love with someone and all of a sudden they back stabbed you, left you for dead and you got thrown in jail for it, do you think you would be very have and just let them get away with it? A great idea for a movie, nonetheless.But in GTA3 it was too exaggerated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucewayne909 Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Another problem I had with Claude was that he pretty much had no personality whatsoever. He was just a silent cold blooded assasin who would kill anyone in his path to get revenge. He betrayed the gang that treated him best and shot Maria at the end for talking too much. WTF! And what happened at the end of the story? Yeah he got his revenge, and he was rich. Allright so what now? Nothing. Good job Claude... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spenc938 Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 He betrayed the gang that treated him best Are you talking about the yakuza? It's not like Kenji was all that nice to him. And if you are talking about the mafia, Salvatore did try to kill him. Clarify please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni Antonio Cipriani Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 is claude still working for the Yakuza in the end? I think he's something like a free agent As implied in GTA2, claude still works for the Yakuza, along with a couple of Japanese gangs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gouveia Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 OK, if you want to see what gang is the strongest, so let's just compare them all: Leone's Mafia - They got money, they got guns and most of an entire island(all the turfs besides the neutral ones, hepburn heights and chinatown). They own a good businness and they have a safehouse. Their boss has been killed by Claude, and Salvatore's son could get weaker by his father's death, but they got Luigi and Tony, two proud members of the Mafia. Yakuza - They have almost all south side of Stauton as their turf. Both bosses have been killed and it's most likely that they don't have anybody to run the gang. I think they are very week at this point. Small gangs - Do you want to consider these sh*t gangs? So IMHO, the mafia would be the strongest gang in the city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord fido Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 (edited) Here it goes. It all started in the end of LCS. The Forellis were in control of Staunton and SSV until the Leones killed them. Then the Leones were in controll of Liberty at the end of LCS and the start of GTA3. They started the wars with the triads and the traids were defeated and the Leones assumed control in Portland. Then the Yakuza defeated the Leones and assumed control in Liberty. The yardies werent so pleased and they fought with the Yakuza. For a couple of weeks the yardies were in control until the Diablos fight with them and the Diablos think that by defiting the Yardies they are the kings of liberty. Thats when they attack Yakuza fronts. The Yakuza fight with the Diablos and take control of the city. The Cartel fight with the Yakuza, killing Asuka. The Cartel control the city. All the other gangs in Portland and Staunton are controled by the Cartel. Claude goes to the Cartel Mansion and kills all the Cartel. Then the Red jacks fight with the Purple nines and the Red Jacks are controlling SSV. Forelli-Leone-Yakuza-Yardies-Diablos-Yakuza-Cartel-Hoods-Red Jacks. Aparently no gang is always the strongest. But by the end of III, all gangs are seriosly f*cked up. Edited December 28, 2006 by lord fido Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valencia Posted January 11, 2007 Author Share Posted January 11, 2007 Well think about, if you we're in love with someone and all of a sudden they back stabbed you, left you for dead and you got thrown in jail for it, do you think you would be very have and just let them get away with it? I know how it feels, well I didn't really got thrown into jail but let's just say it feels like getting shot, yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valencia Posted January 11, 2007 Author Share Posted January 11, 2007 Here it goes. It all started in the end of LCS. The Forellis were in control of Staunton and SSV until the Leones killed them. Then the Leones were in controll of Liberty at the end of LCS and the start of GTA3. They started the wars with the triads and the traids were defeated and the Leones assumed control in Portland. Then the Yakuza defeated the Leones and assumed control in Liberty. The yardies werent so pleased and they fought with the Yakuza. For a couple of weeks the yardies were in control until the Diablos fight with them and the Diablos think that by defiting the Yardies they are the kings of liberty. Thats when they attack Yakuza fronts. The Yakuza fight with the Diablos and take control of the city. The Cartel fight with the Yakuza, killing Asuka. The Cartel control the city. All the other gangs in Portland and Staunton are controled by the Cartel. Claude goes to the Cartel Mansion and kills all the Cartel. Then the Red jacks fight with the Purple nines and the Red Jacks are controlling SSV. Forelli-Leone-Yakuza-Yardies-Diablos-Yakuza-Cartel-Hoods-Red Jacks. Aparently no gang is always the strongest. But by the end of III, all gangs are seriosly f*cked up. Well I don't know what you just said, But I really doubt the Diablos or Yardies controlled Liberty City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southwaleswarriors112 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 Another problem I had with Claude was that he pretty much had no personality whatsoever. He was just a silent cold blooded assasin who would kill anyone in his path to get revenge. He betrayed the gang that treated him best and shot Maria at the end for talking too much. WTF! And what happened at the end of the story? Yeah he got his revenge, and he was rich. Allright so what now? Nothing. Good job Claude... he does not shoot her because she is moaning about her hair he shoots up in the air to shut her up r* officialy said it they also said ''why would he shoot her this would be pointless'' they just did the shooting at the end for a laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 he does not shoot her because she is moaning about her hair he shoots up in the air to shut her up r* officialy said it they also said ''why would he shoot her this would be pointless'' they just did the shooting at the end for a laugh Ha, you need to source yourself my friend. The reason the gunshot was heard with a blackscreen was to provoke questions. It wasn't 'pointless' because Claude was able to kill Catalina. Maria was a dead weight. On Claude being a silent protagonist, it is a guise used to give players a more personal impression when playing the game. It is also a foil over the boisterous and loudmouthed characters of Tommy and Carl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyZimmzy Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 OK, if you want to see what gang is the strongest, so let's just compare them all: Leone's Mafia - They got money, they got guns and most of an entire island(all the turfs besides the neutral ones, hepburn heights and chinatown). They own a good businness and they have a safehouse. Their boss has been killed by Claude, and Salvatore's son could get weaker by his father's death, but they got Luigi and Tony, two proud members of the Mafia. Yakuza - They have almost all south side of Stauton as their turf. Both bosses have been killed and it's most likely that they don't have anybody to run the gang. I think they are very week at this point. Small gangs - Do you want to consider these sh*t gangs? So IMHO, the mafia would be the strongest gang in the city Johnny Zoo took over as leader. I don't know his relation to Asuka and Kenji, though. I just played through GTA3 again and it's abundantly clear to me now that Claude made a few quick bucks, but almost every gang hated him and he was constantly hunted. He got revenge, and I thought the storyline was very well done, but after the game's over... you're pretty much left with nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southwaleswarriors112 Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 he does not shoot her because she is moaning about her hair he shoots up in the air to shut her up r* officialy said it they also said ''why would he shoot her this would be pointless'' they just did the shooting at the end for a laugh Ha, you need to source yourself my friend. The reason the gunshot was heard with a blackscreen was to provoke questions. It wasn't 'pointless' because Claude was able to kill Catalina. Maria was a dead weight. On Claude being a silent protagonist, it is a guise used to give players a more personal impression when playing the game. It is also a foil over the boisterous and loudmouthed characters of Tommy and Carl. no people thought that claude shot maria but he didnt you see it was just for a laugh everyone has a sence of humor it was on a official e-mail after saving maria and going into all that trouble to save her why would he do this just shoot her ok so he got catalina but i still think half of why he did it was to save maria even i laughed when he shot in the air it was so funny some people should be a little less suspicious and just laugh it off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All-Blacks Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 I'd like to see one day in the future a Liberty City after '01 to show whos in control and what not. It woud be pretty interesting as R* left us on a cliffhanger. If I had to give a fair guess on who probably remains control, i'd have to go with the Leone family as I don't think they were as weakend as the other gangs. The Yakuza lost Kenji and Asuka, the Triad's Fish business was slowed down (due to Claude blowing up the factory), Yardies drug dealing of SPANK was basically halted, Cartel lost their leader Catalina, Diablos and the Purple Nines and Red Jacks really had no control over the city etc. meanwhile the Leone Family although lost Salvatore, had three capable leaders of Joey, Tony and Luigi to take over (maybe except the latter). We should make this into a poll to see what peoples opinions are onto this . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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