gohan__14 Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Vic, as we know, died in drug deal. Lance and Tommy quicly got away. But i have a theory. Maybe Diaz asked Vic for last small favor. He goes to the drug deal and gets shot by empty bullets. After Lance escapes with helly, he stands and with diaz men help kills any survivors from the forellies. And he gets about 50 % of all money. It can maybe explane Vics laughing. And look at the cutscene. When he and two forellies got shot they don't even open their mouths and scream or atleast say something like "we got set up" "look out" and etc. Lance keep saying that he's brother is dead, but how does he knews it? He flew away with helly. He didn't see it, he just think that he's died. Maybe Vic got sick of Lance. Maybe he wanted to start his life from the start. Maybe diaz in the end of vcs will mention something about this. Well in that or other way he still have to wait unit the game comes out. So what you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA3Freak-2001 Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Well possibly this is GTA remember its full of backstabbing bastards, they could very well have a few missions where Victor meets up with Diaz and chats hinting at this theory of yours. Although I would have thought if that was the case there would be some hint of it in Vice City but honestly I am not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAThomas Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Maybe VCS will play over a 2 year span. At the end of the game everthing looks like VC, and the last cutscene is him dieing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder. Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Maybe Victor Respawned at the Hospital? Like Claude, Tommy, Carl and Toni before him Maybe VCS will play over a 2 year span. At the end of the game everthing looks like VC, and the last cutscene is him dieing. I don't think Rockstar would do that. It would disrupt the flow of the Game. How would you get 100% and Free-road would be gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA3Freak-2001 Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Maybe VCS will play over a 2 year span. At the end of the game everthing looks like VC, and the last cutscene is him dieing. Yeah I dunno how that would work though, would disrupt things like radio stations and not to mention the map modifications causing havoc for hidden packages and side missions etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jawsh Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Maybe the game will start in medias res, with Victor been rushed to the hospital, and then been let free, and ready to hurt the backstabbers who did this to him (Like Diaz and Sonny ect.)? It would be good to see GTA take an all new route storywise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelDude Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Maybe when you complete the game 100% you get to see what REALLY happened to victor at the drug deal scene. (Would be a cool 100% extra). You can keep watching it by going into a pink marker in your mansion or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seddo Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Vic, as we know, died in drug deal. Lance and Tommy quicly got away. But i have a theory. Maybe Diaz asked Vic for last small favor. He goes to the drug deal and gets shot by empty bullets. After Lance escapes with helly, he stands and with diaz men help kills any survivors from the forellies. And he gets about 50 % of all money. It can maybe explane Vics laughing. And look at the cutscene. When he and two forellies got shot they don't even open their mouths and scream or atleast say something like "we got set up" "look out" and etc. Lance keep saying that he's brother is dead, but how does he knews it? He flew away with helly. He didn't see it, he just think that he's died. Maybe Vic got sick of Lance. Maybe he wanted to start his life from the start. Maybe diaz in the end of vcs will mention something about this. Well in that or other way he still have to wait unit the game comes out. So what you think? OMG that theory is very possible nice thinking man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake6 Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Maybe Victor Respawned at the Hospital? Like Claude, Tommy, Carl and Toni before him dont you mean after him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake6 Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 (edited) oops sry for the double post Edited August 2, 2006 by jake6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder. Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 In game term they were before him, in timeline they were after him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die Catalina die Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Great theory man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie41 Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Maybe VCS will play over a 2 year span. At the end of the game everthing looks like VC, and the last cutscene is him dieing. No, nothing will change when it comes to the city Im sure he wasnt shot with blank bullets, or the other guys would have gotten up... Havent you watched Final Destination?? You can always change your fate, and im sure in VCS he does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humancorpse Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 I really dubt he survieved. Sure, it would be possible, but it does seem a little far off. I always asumed that Vic`s laughing was because he thought this deal was all set, and he and the Forellis didn`t even have the time to scream when they were shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the ninja Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 That's a good theory. It seems like a long shot, but it's possible. Maybe Victor Respawned at the Hospital? Like Claude, Tommy, Carl and Toni before him That made me laugh. Maybe VCS will play over a 2 year span. At the end of the game everthing looks like VC, and the last cutscene is him dieing. I really don't think that would work. And besides, after the final cutscene the story's over, but there is still free roam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topdogkiller Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 that's eactly what i was tinking. Because in vcs vic is helping lance come up. Maybe when they got up they knew their enemies would try to take over so they kind of gave the idea to sonny to make a fake deal at the harbor knowing that diaz would send a couple of men to ambush the dropoff. nd also they poined out that he's a marine, so he could have handled his wounds, after everyone ran off. Here's my full theory, that maybe vic and lance planned this whole i'm dead thing to get diaz's empire, then knowing that sonny would come back lance would act like he worked for him so they both could kill tommy and take his empire. Then if tommy had died and sonny took over the empire, lance would doublecross sonny and bring out vic to take over his empire, butyou know what happened. Just a theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gta player06 Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Good theory Gohan 14. It can even be true, because none of the main characters in GTA have died. Claude, Toni, Tommy and CJ are alive( well at least we don`t know if they are dead), so it would be kinda strange to play the game knowing that the main character will die two years later. It would be a storyline flaw to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake6 Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 didnt claude die in gta 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seddo Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 didnt claude die in gta 2 Yes i think he did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gohan__14 Posted August 2, 2006 Author Share Posted August 2, 2006 I have seen VC intro again and i seen something strange. First thing is when Tommy asked Vic to open and show him the drugs, Vic simple change the subget and asked Tommy to show the money. Second thing is when the guys got shot there wasn't any blood and the guy with blue shirt falled on ground on his back, and then when Tommy started to run, he fliped. Anyway i have few more theorys. Either Vic had planed something with forellies (he didn't told that to Sonny thought), or Tommy met just with wrong guys. Maybe Vic send his two man to kill two forellies, take there clothes and meet Tommy. After this point i have again few theorys. First is, that Vic founds out that Tommy looking for his boss money and set Diaz up. Next sugestion is, that Vic founds out that Tommy looking for his boss money and wants to hire Leo Teal to kill Tommy, but when he phones to him, Tommy pics the phone (in that point Vic were talking with his true voice(he talked in latino (in the deal) just in case, that maybe this would happen). And the last sugestion is that Vic was with Lance (it explanes where Lance was going all the time) all the time, and told him to play Tommy's game for a while, and when the situation is good enought Vic will take out Tommy. After Lance got killed, he was thinking long, and in 1992 he planed a hit on Vercetti. When Rosenberg phoned to Tommy, Vic picked the phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelDude Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Your theory about 1992 seems quite unlikely. He could have suvived with his marine skills however, which would be so sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gohan__14 Posted August 2, 2006 Author Share Posted August 2, 2006 Your theory about 1992 seems quite unlikely. He could have suvived with his marine skills however, which would be so sweet. Well maybe you right. Let's just say he started a new life after all that business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC. Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 I like that theory about Victor being possibly alive in 1986. And you know when Victor was making that drug deal with Tommy and the 2 Forellis? Was Victor using a fake accent? Or was that the way he actually talks? I just hope he never actually died in 1986. Having a main character that dies in another game would stink for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliMex Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 (edited) If he somehow manages to live then I wonder if Rockstar will give us a sign that is alive and well. If Rockstar ever decides to create a San Andreas Stories (to milk more money out of us) then we may see a sign of him. The game may be set in 1989 (possible since the other Stories games are prequels) or 1995. Victor may have moved to San Andreas to start a new life. Of course after the 3 year theory has now been debunked since VCS is in 1984 the game (if it is going to be made) might not be set in those years at all. Edited August 5, 2006 by CaliMex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutuz Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 I like the Guy above me idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA-WISEGUY1 Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 that's eactly what i was tinking. Because in vcs vic is helping lance come up. Maybe when they got up they knew their enemies would try to take over so they kind of gave the idea to sonny to make a fake deal at the harbor knowing that diaz would send a couple of men to ambush the dropoff. nd also they poined out that he's a marine, so he could have handled his wounds, after everyone ran off. Here's my full theory, that maybe vic and lance planned this whole i'm dead thing to get diaz's empire, then knowing that sonny would come back lance would act like he worked for him so they both could kill tommy and take his empire. Then if tommy had died and sonny took over the empire, lance would doublecross sonny and bring out vic to take over his empire, butyou know what happened. Just a theory. how could sonny be involved in setting up the whole thing because he sends tommy to get the drugs aqt the beginning of vice city. u need to think would sonny risk all that money just to help fake some ones death Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPyrox Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Vice city was released before the PSP was even thought off or known about. So if they did make that part of the story.. they'd have to have alot of explaining to do.. I've always thought that the men who shot at him looked familiar.... I don't know why though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAThomas Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 I don't know. They don't look very familiar to me. ..And don't say that's umberto. They're just some NARC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gohan__14 Posted August 3, 2006 Author Share Posted August 3, 2006 I don't know. They don't look very familiar to me. ..And don't say that's umberto. They're just some NARC. That could be anyone. It doesn't matter how does they look, it's more important who are they working for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gta player06 Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 didnt claude die in gta 2 Yes i think he did We can`t assume that GTA2 Claude and GTA3 Claude is the same person just because they have the same name. We don`t know GTA3 Claude`s last name. On topic: Second thing is when the guys got shot there wasn't any blood I also noticed that there`s no blood. Strange, because Vic, Harry and Lee( Tommy`s friends) were killed by enemies armed wiht M4`s and M60. There should be a lot of blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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