Then and Now ('84 and '86)

[D- Ice]

 

Also in the pic by Asif of the army base, notice that the soldiers have M16 guns, not M4's.

 

Thats cuz M4's were first made in 1994, so there inclusion in Vice City (1986) and San Andreas (1992) is historically inaccurate. About time they notice that

that's funny

I don't remember a city called vice city existing in south florida

historical inaccuracy?

What the f*ck are you on about.

Try reading my post again.

 

When did I say there was an actual VC?

 

Let me spell it out for you:

 

M4's first made in 1994. Ok?

 

GTA-VC was set in 1986, but one of the weapons you can get is the M4.

GTA-SA was set in 1992, but one of the weapons you can get is the M4.

 

Now, even though Vice City and San Andreas were made up, the games set there were set at real-life years. The years 1986 and 1992 did exist.

 

These dates where before 1994 when the M4 was first made.

But the games suggest that there were M4's then, before they were first made.

 

Now that is what I call historically inaccurate, like setting a game in 1909, and there are TV sets in your house!

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Anyway, on a different note, absolutely great work there Asif and the others, for the trailer and pictures that I've never seen before. thank you.

Edited September 7, 2006 by D- Ice

[Asif]

Thank you, D-Ice.

 

Some random comparisons, I made, from the trailer.

 

#1

Notice that, the aircraft isnt there anymore.

VCS

 

VC

 

#2

The fence is remodelled.

VCS

 

VC

 

#3

This chat was taking place may be in one of Vic's safehouse. I used the building in the background (with pink marker on it) as the reference.

VCS

 

VC

 

 

You get ^this view if you are at this --> <-- building; Note, it's just opposite to the Love fist concert building.

[.:Alex:.]

Actually half the airport is missing and I would assume (and this seems extremely likely) the airport is very small or is just an airstrip and that they are in the process of turning Escobar Airport into Escobar International. That explains the construction fences and dirt mounds with the traffic cones.

 

Actually, an airport under construction would actually be one of the coolest map features in any GTA ever.

[Asif]

Another comparison I made here. This one clears up the marker thing for the enterable interiors and confirms that Ammunation is still there at Downtown.

 

VCS: Both snaps are sequently taken from the DEA agent movie.

->

 

VC

[ybakker]

nice finds, Asif. I'm working on the videos right now as well.

 

Updated all the Screenshots R* released (no video shots yet)

[jman12343]

The phone is there in picture #27. Here is the proof. Look closely.

 

Edited September 8, 2006 by jman12343

[ybakker]

whoops. I just skimmed over the stuff

done. thanks jman

 

EDIT: I'm being such a nice fellow, I edited this instead of making another post.

 

 

This is from the military base. Notice in the 2nd, everything is remodeled.

In the 4th one, the Fuel Tanks on the right have been moved.

Edited September 8, 2006 by ybakker

[lurchseesu420]

hey youre wrong about #26. its not opposite avery's construction site. its the same basic building in vice port near sunshine autos on the tip of the mainland strip. all the street patterns match and the trees do 2. plus the trailer park next to sunshine i think has a crane. so its the one in vice port near sunshine autos not the 1 in vice point next to averys construction site.

[Jamslice]

 

Also in the pic by Asif of the army base, notice that the soldiers have M16 guns, not M4's.

 

Thats cuz M4's were first made in 1994, so there inclusion in Vice City (1986) and San Andreas (1992) is historically inaccurate. About time they notice that

that's funny

I don't remember a city called vice city existing in south florida

historical inaccuracy?

What the f*ck are you on about.

Try reading my post again.

 

When did I say there was an actual VC?

 

Let me spell it out for you:

 

M4's first made in 1994. Ok?

 

GTA-VC was set in 1986, but one of the weapons you can get is the M4.

GTA-SA was set in 1992, but one of the weapons you can get is the M4.

 

Now, even though Vice City and San Andreas were made up, the games set there were set at real-life years. The years 1986 and 1992 did exist.

 

These dates where before 1994 when the M4 was first made.

But the games suggest that there were M4's then, before they were first made.

 

Now that is what I call historically inaccurate, like setting a game in 1909, and there are TV sets in your house!

Let me spell it out for you

GTA takes place in a fictional world with fictional people, fictional cities, fictional cars, fictional states, fictional aircraft, fictional boats, etc etc ad infinitum

 

you are worried about a gun resembling the real world m4 (though going by a fictional name in this fictional world), not being historically accurate

 

my point is this: this is a world where vice city exists. Hell, this is a world where even the fictional counterparts of los angeles and las vegas are in the same state. The same fictional state.

it has a fictional history

but any non-mongoloid could have figured that out by 'reading my post again'

 

conclusion: you're nitpicking about things that are so beyond even mattering in the fictional gta world that it hurts

douche.

[ybakker]

hey youre wrong about #26. its not opposite avery's construction site. its the same basic building in vice port near sunshine autos on the tip of the mainland strip. all the street patterns match and the trees do 2. plus the trailer park next to sunshine i think has a crane. so its the one in vice port near sunshine autos not the 1 in vice point next to averys construction site.

thanks. updated. The trees don't really match now, but they are changed in VCS anyway.

[ybakker]

here are some (4 of 5) IGN comparisons:

 

 

 

 

 

In the 1st image, the Neon lights are new. The building on the left has new textures. At the right, theres a small tip of the billboard seen.

 

In the 2nd image, you can kind of see Leaf Links, but it doesn't have any trees. I think that's why we couldnt see Leaf Links in the other old image. Also, on the left, you can see Prawn Island (you can't really identify it, that land is Prawn).

 

In the 3rd image, clearly they got rid of the blue space around the trees. That was pretty annoying in Vice City.

 

In the 4th image, everything is the same except the new textures and the satellite antennas/dishes are gone now (I think).

 

[Carlito_Brigante]

Still one of the best topics out there

 

Nice job on the comparisons, these were alot easier than the past few.

[gohan__14]

Did someone seen that in 4'th pic there's no Palm tree in GTA: VCS, but there's one in GTA: VC. Palms growing fast in VC, it takes only two years.

[The-end]

 

 

Wow, all the trees on Leaf Links are gone, or maybe this could be yet another drawing issue .

[CMN]

Thanks ybakker for seeing the sine for sun shine auto's i was trying to find out where the trailer park was. I wonder is it nearest the dump or the green space beside sunshine autos!!

[gohan__14]

Looks like some of these houses will be removed. And there's no garage door on the yellow building.

Edited September 9, 2006 by gohan__14

[uzi 9mm]

I think with this game we will see a very new Vice City.

 

Near enough every screen has something different, so R* are going all out there to alter it in the best ways possible, plus with the swimming, lit up buildings at night, and new vehicles, we are having a VC in SA style.

 

Please release this on PS2 R*.

[ybakker]

Thanks ybakker for seeing the sine for sun shine auto's i was trying to find out where the trailer park was. I wonder is it nearest the dump or the green space beside sunshine autos!!

im pretty sure the trailer park is on the grass around Sunshine autos.

 

Leaf links has trees. check the Boats movie. In one scene with a jetski, you can see the trees and a very primitive starfish island.

 

and wow! 2 stars

[palaric8]

from what i saw on the trailer park mafia trailer

 

i think this is going to be the location of the trailer park

[Canoxa]

Any proof to back up that?

[palaric8]

Any proof to back up that?

trailer park mafia trailer ?

 

 

[ybakker]

nope. check the Then and Now pic with the quad.

 

also check the scene in the mafia video where the quad exits the trailer park and goes on the road with sunshine autos on it.

[palaric8]

nope. check the Then and Now pic with the quad.

 

also check the scene in the mafia video where the quad exits the trailer park and goes on the road with sunshine autos on it.

i dont wanna start a bitching war but the trailer park looks like is going to be really big so it could extend till little haiti

 

 

[Hitman_90]

 

 

look at the part where vic jumps the ramp.. Whats that long building on the right?

[ybakker]

the ramp is at the marina in ocean beach. everything looks the same. ill get the comparisons tomorrow.

[Kippers]

Just looked at the new piccies on the front page. great work keeping the topic up to date Bakker And everyone else for finding the locations.

 

i bought VC PC last week, so i can look for some now as well

[D- Ice]

Also in the pic by Asif of the army base, notice that the soldiers have M16 guns, not M4's.

 

Thats cuz M4's were first made in 1994, so there inclusion in Vice City (1986) and San Andreas (1992) is historically inaccurate. About time they notice that

that's funny

I don't remember a city called vice city existing in south florida

historical inaccuracy?

What the f*ck are you on about.

Try reading my post again.

 

When did I say there was an actual VC?

 

Let me spell it out for you:

 

M4's first made in 1994. Ok?

 

GTA-VC was set in 1986, but one of the weapons you can get is the M4.

GTA-SA was set in 1992, but one of the weapons you can get is the M4.

 

Now, even though Vice City and San Andreas were made up, the games set there were set at real-life years. The years 1986 and 1992 did exist.

 

These dates where before 1994 when the M4 was first made.

But the games suggest that there were M4's then, before they were first made.

 

Now that is what I call historically inaccurate, like setting a game in 1909, and there are TV sets in your house!

Let me spell it out for you

GTA takes place in a fictional world with fictional people, fictional cities, fictional cars, fictional states, fictional aircraft, fictional boats, etc etc ad infinitum

 

you are worried about a gun resembling the real world m4 (though going by a fictional name in this fictional world), not being historically accurate

 

my point is this: this is a world where vice city exists. Hell, this is a world where even the fictional counterparts of los angeles and las vegas are in the same state. The same fictional state.

it has a fictional history

but any non-mongoloid could have figured that out by 'reading my post again'

 

conclusion: you're nitpicking about things that are so beyond even mattering in the fictional gta world that it hurts

douche.

OK, listen up prick.

 

GTA's are all fictional, yes.

However, gta-vc was set in 1986- a real year.

 

The gun does not resemble the M4, but IS SUPPOSED to be the M4, thus it's name, when you buy it of Ammunation.

 

That gun was invented in 1994, so it can't have been, even in a fictional world before that in '86 and '92.

 

Nitpicking?, well yes, thats what were here to do, comparing VCS and VC.

I just thought that since people are comparing things like the landscape etc, I might as well compare and give proof of a weapon in the game, which is more than I see f*cker ever do.

 

If you don't like doing that and find it so painful, I suggest you go to another thread, cuz thats what this thread is all about.

 

And as for Douche, yes, at least I get to go into more pussy than you'll ever do.

 

Prick.

[CMN]

 

look at the part where vic jumps the ramp.. Whats that long building on the right?

Tha building looks new!! Or i just have a bad memory

[ybakker]

sorry. thats bad memory . that building is right in front of cortez's mission marker.

 

i am currently working on a Then and Now webpage for the PSP! (obviously also compatible for the pc)

[Seddo]

i am currently working on a Then and Now webpage for the PSP! (obviously also compatible for the pc)

cool i look forward to seeing the website