Official Street Racing Topic

[eyeswideshut]

ricers piss me off, they got nothing under the hood thats the problem...i'm gonna keep my outside stock except for rims maybe when I get my car

[tuff_luv_capo]

Everyone has such a double standard. It's okay to do one thing to a car, but don't do this. And it's only wrong if you do this if you have this or that...

 

That's no longer about legality, that is just taste.

 

Legality is what you do behind the wheel. You could put a vortech supercharger in your car, but beleive it or not, it can still drive the speed limit. Of course, you may be less likely too now because you just dumped a sh*tload of money in your car to make it fast, but hey, it's what you do.

 

Then you start getting into probability, which is, if he has an exhaust and a wing, he probably street races, but if he bought the car like that cuz that's what he had, then who says he has to take it off?

 

Too many factors. Leave it to the act itself.

 

[I<love>AMG]

Look at this video ( http://videos.streetfire.net/recentvideos/...daf33cc7eb4.htm ). Thats what I am personally against....

[GM Dude]

 

Heres a solution to rid of street racing, give us a god dam track to race on!

 

People like me, like fast cars, I want to turn my 125hp cavalier into a 250hp cavalier daily driver, I do want to know how it runs, the nearest track is 2-3 hours away. BS if you ask me.

 

And nobody got the idea of blocking off streets from FnF, ppl have been doing it since the 70s.

 

Drinking and driving is the real problem. Many "street racing" kills were actually caused by drunk drivers, but the media puts all the attention on the street racing and doesnt mention the drunk driving.

 

Have you ever raced on a street? Everyone has at some point.

 

I am not a fan of street racing, but when its setup properly its alright. And if 1 pizza guy at 2am can't take that certain road to save his life, then boo freakin hoo to him. The street is blocked off for what 5 mins? Most of the time theres no ped drivers in sight.

@Dr. Doidberg: Exactly.

 

I'd say that street racing has about 1/250 of the fatalities that drunk driving does, despite it being almost as common as drunken driving.

 

And I think it's just stupid to wreck someone's car just 'cause it's modified.

{Actually, that's a fact as well}

I guess Canada has a lot of liberals, too.....

[uzer]

"Hoooraayy street racing"

 

[Dr Doidberg]

shut up dup, you dont know sh*t. The cops are just f*cked, like when cops in the states beat down black guys just because they stereotyped them and thought they were all gangbangers.

Excuse you? You're heavily against stereotyping, but you stereotype all cops right there.

Nice going dickass, real "street smarts" ya hurr negro

I didnt know stating facts were stereotyping cops.

 

 

DON'T RICE THE f*ck OUT OF YOUR CAR!!

Dude my friend got a ticket, all he had on his car done was an intake, magnaflow muffler (which is legal) and lowered 1.4", and he got a ticket for un-necessary noise and illegal muffler. BOTH tickets were thrown out in court. The cop showed too, but had no evidence at all except "the muffler didnt look like it was stock and it was louder than stock", buddy had pictures of the muffler which showed it was legal, so the judge threw the tickets out.

 

Aparently this stuff happens a lot in T.O. since i got friends who live there, and an older bro who lives there.

[GTA3Freak-2001]

Don't make me get Vinny Diesel!

 

[iRloading]

shut up dup, you dont know sh*t. The cops are just f*cked, like when cops in the states beat down black guys just because they stereotyped them and thought they were all gangbangers.

Excuse you? You're heavily against stereotyping, but you stereotype all cops right there.

Nice going dickass, real "street smarts" ya hurr negro

I didnt know stating facts were stereotyping cops.

guess your as good at stereotyping the po-po as they are stereotyping your friends car as an "illegaly modified" car

 

funny how the facts of others affect the opinions of those who judge others~

 

be drunk or a street racer, the same thing: disregarding the safety of others~

 

simple point and undeniably true~ the only difference is the driver's awareness

 

point being, they're both still ignorant for placing the public at risk

 

and kudos to ye lads~ yay, you block of roads, thats unnecesary obstruction you twats

 

a road is to remain free 24/7 unless closed off to the public (including you)

 

that's being pigheaded~ that 5 minutes to block off a road could cost a persons life...

 

ever heard of ambulances? they take the quickest route to point a to point b, and what if some lads feel they need to close of a road for 5 minutes just to race their twinkies? what say you to the ambulance?

 

there is a difference from "assuming" and "knowing" safety~ and with the points your bringing up about "street racing" matters of safety are based on "assuming" it's "safe"

[Touge]

The street racers in my areas generally go and park up somewhere then eventually head about 10 mins out of town and race on the straight country roads.

 

There's this road where everyone parks along in big carparks etc. and most people are just there to watch and talk sh*t while some others will lap up and down and race other cars. There's been a big problem with motels and residents of the area complaining about the noise so recently the cops have been watching the place pretty closely so people are kinda cautious now. Nobody that I've seen or heard of here blocks roads off or anything though.

 

The fastest cars out are usually Evo's and GT-R's. See a few quick RX-7's too. Went to a small gathering out on this long two-lane road about 5 mins out of town in this farming area a few months back. Subaru's (WRX's, Legacy GT's) and Honda's were the only cars racing. A little NA EK9 Civic Type R was waxing the turbo Subarus which was cool to see. There were two other cars there too that weren't racing but I wanted to see. One was a Blue STi 2-door that looked quite modified and the other was a purple R33 GT-R which I suspect is the same one driving around Hamilton with a T51R.

 

 

[uzer]

Don't make me get Vinny Diesel!

 

[tuff_luv_capo]

Friend in his Suzuki Reno attempts to race his friend's Saturn.

 

'Nother friend in a '95 Geo Prizm taking on a talon and actually winning

 

Friend in the prizm made the videos so don't bitch at me for the odd editing. I wasn't even there that night. Just sharing videos.

Edited July 10, 2006 by Tuff Luv Capo

[MindCorrupt]

Friend in his Suzuki Reno attempts to race his friend's Saturn.

 

'Nother friend in a '95 Geo Prizm taking on a talon and actually winning

 

Friend in the prizm made the videos so don't bitch at me for the odd editing. I wasn't even there that night. Just sharing videos.

 

Woah! Thats some intense sh*t!

[tuff_luv_capo]

Friend in his Suzuki Reno attempts to race his friend's Saturn.

 

'Nother friend in a '95 Geo Prizm taking on a talon and actually winning

 

Friend in the prizm made the videos so don't bitch at me for the odd editing. I wasn't even there that night. Just sharing videos.

 

Woah! Thats some intense sh*t!

lol, I know.

 

 

 

20.....25........30.....speed limit....

 

Over the course of about a minute, haha.

[Mega]

Hmm, straight lines suck. Heavy

[uzer]

Hmm, straight lines suck. Heavy

But they have excitement around every turn!

 

Oh wait...

[GM Dude]

I wonder how many liberal politicians have tried to outlaw this sport....{of course, maybe some neutrals and maybe even a few mild conservatives could also be against it as well, AFAIK}

 

They do have a point, in that some people{about 5-15% of the racers} aren't exactly fit to drive.

 

I also agree that it can occasionally be dangerous, but why go to jail for it, unless you're also under the influence and/or intentionally tried to kill someone?

 

The fact is, they really should be more worried about murderers and rapists and other ACTUAL criminals, not just someone having a joyride{unless the car was stolen!} at 3:00 am.

[Dup]

Driving without due care and attention is just as bad as a murder. You are perposely setting out to endanger the lives of others in seek of your own thrill.

 

We have police/CSI type people for catching murderers and we have traffic police to catch the likes of speeders racers and drunk drivers. You can't go putting traffic police on a murder investigation and you won't see a phoresic scientist chasing speeders down the highay just to get on "The worlds Most Scariest Police Chases", where 90% of the footage comes from the US.

 

Pointing the lime light at other types of crimes is not an excuse to break the law. You should follow your own philosiphy here. "It don't matter if you win by an inch or a mile, winnings winning". That could also equate to "It don't matter if you die by a speeder or a murderer, dying is dying".

 

Prove your point of 5-15%... EVERY driver on this planet is in charge of a potentially volatile weapon. You may be the best driver in the world, but your only as good as the people and surroundings around you. It only takes one Joe Idiot to pull out not expecting Joe Ego in daddies car to be speeding towards him at high speed to be tomorrows front page local tradgedy. They all take Pity on Joe Ego, he was the life and soul of his family and the community sniffed his anus. Joe idiot was also nice for 3 lines of news coverage. But the fact Joe Ego was speeding and racing may not even be told, and innocent families don't get any justice or truth for their loss.

[GM Dude]

@Dup: With all due respect, I say I have to disagree if you're saying that all street racers are inattentive to their surroundings.

AFAIK, a lot of them may actually be very aware of their surroundings when they race, otherwise, we'd probably see a lot more fatalities.

And I betcha most of 'em do care about other people, unlike those who are a REAL danger to the public{like murderers, rapists, and thieves}, because everyone knows they're not out to maliciously injure people.

And it's worse to die by a murderer's hand than a person's car.

MUCH worse.

 

@Tuff Luv Capo: Liked the videos.

 

@Touge: You from Japan? Just curious.

[EvilPenguin]

@GM Dude: Street racing is already illegal, bud.

 

The fact of the matter is, that whether or not its intended to, street racing puts innocent people at risk. This is why its illegal, and why it shouldn't be done. I'm all for driving fast but not for driving dumb.

[Kaj.]

And it's worse to die by a murderer's hand than a person's car.

MUCH worse.

 

Not really. If you get killed by a murderer, it's because they wanted to kill you. If you get killed by someone driving a car (street racer or not) it's because of the ignorant f*ck behind the wheel, not knowing their limits and/or how to drive properly.

 

Note: That scenario is assuming your not being a dick dancing around in the middle of the street like a drunken fool.

[Dr Doidberg]

@GM Dude: Street racing is already illegal, bud.

 

The fact of the matter is, that whether or not its intended to, street racing puts innocent people at risk. This is why its illegal, and why it shouldn't be done. I'm all for driving fast but not for driving dumb.

Driving fast puts innocent people at risk too bud.

 

Smoking puts innocent people at risk, f*ck i can go on forever so dont try saying this stupid sh*t about putting people at risk of their lives.

 

Making cars fast has always been a hobby for guys. Now if there is no track around for hundreds of miles, the only way to see whos car is faster is to race them...If its done safely then its ok, but racing on a street with peds and other cars is just plain stupid. Lots of people still die racing legally on a track, even the random guy in the stands.

[EvilPenguin]

All true, but abundant street racing only gives the f*cknuts with 200-shots of NAWZ that much of a better opportunity to drill some poor sop.

 

Take that sh*t out of the city. Whatever happened to good ole' canyon carving?

[tuff_luv_capo]

All true, but abundant street racing only gives the f*cknuts with 200-shots of NAWZ that much of a better opportunity to drill some poor sop.

 

Take that sh*t out of the city. Whatever happened to good ole' canyon carving?

You = missing the f*cking point.

 

If you don't have a test track, or canyon (who the f*ck has a canyon? What is this tattooine?), you use the city by force.

[EvilPenguin]

All true, but abundant street racing only gives the f*cknuts with 200-shots of NAWZ that much of a better opportunity to drill some poor sop.

 

Take that sh*t out of the city.  Whatever happened to good ole' canyon carving?

You = missing the f*cking point.

 

If you don't have a test track, or canyon (who the f*ck has a canyon? What is this tattooine?), you use the city by force.

Because the stoplight derby is really that interesting? Where there's a city, there's a city limit. And outside that limit is an evironment more conducive to the dumbsh*ttery and assholery commonly associated with "street racing."

[tuff_luv_capo]

All true, but abundant street racing only gives the f*cknuts with 200-shots of NAWZ that much of a better opportunity to drill some poor sop.

 

Take that sh*t out of the city.  Whatever happened to good ole' canyon carving?

You = missing the f*cking point.

 

If you don't have a test track, or canyon (who the f*ck has a canyon? What is this tattooine?), you use the city by force.

Because the stoplight derby is really that interesting? Where there's a city, there's a city limit. And outside that limit is an evironment more conducive to the dumbsh*ttery and assholery commonly associated with "street racing."

You're right, last time I left my city, I almost fell into the gaping, perfectly sloped, two-lane and paved canyon.

 

 

 

Streets are everywhere buddy. Only a track is classified as safe to the people in this topic.

[EvilPenguin]

As there are varying degrees of evil, there are varying degrees of safety (and fun).

 

At the extreme good end of the spectrum, is the track - safe, fun, but improbably difficult to find. At the extreme dumb end of the spectrum is the city! Not at all safe, not particularly fun unless your ride is mad tight and you want to show it off. In the middle of said spectrum are the thousands and millions of miles of the Highway Transportation System and various other backroads that are BETWEEN the cities. These are safer, more isolated from traffic policia, and can even be a whole hell of a lot more fun. Imagine that.

 

Like I said, the stoplight derby is a waste of time.

[Mega]

90% of common street racers (you know, Geo, Civic, Toyota, car parents bought for 19th bthday) doesn't know how to drive. They learnt how to use a car, by getting the license, but they don't know a single sh*t about proper driving as driving school does not teach you how your car reacts at high speeds, when you are at the limit of loosing control, they don't even teach you how to hang the steering wheel properly.

 

Track days should be compulsory even for the average Joe, it might help avoiding an accident. So it's even more necessary for wanabee racers who think that they know how to drive by having the license for 1 year.

 

Grow the f*ck up. It's not a matter of legality or something of that sort, it's a matter of common sense.

[GM Dude]

@Pavlov: And if you can't afford racing school, there's always other sources of info....

 

They might know something, especially if they've either played a realistic simulator like Forza or rFactor, or have had parents who are experts on this stuff.

 

90%? Buddy, you WAY overestimated on that.

Would 50% be more reasonable?

I thought so.

 

And besides, drunk driving has killed many more people than street racing.

 

@Dr. Doidberg: Good point.

[Dup]

 

They might know something, especially if they've either played a realistic simulator like Forza or rFactor, or have had parents who are experts on this stuff.

 

LOL! Oh my! rFactor and Forza!? Relying on a video game to learn to drive at high speed?! Real life and video games are NOT comparable. Anyone over 5 years old could work that out, surely.

 

 

And besides, drunk driving has killed many more people than street racing.

 

Again, prove it. You cannot go about declaring what you deem to be more illegal or dangerous. This why we have murders and road deaths etc. People who are ignorant and think they are above the law.

 

I does not matter what kills more, it still kills and you willingly take that risk making you an ignorant fool. The sad thing is you'll still go about your ignorant ways, and one day tradgedy may ensue involving yourself or a close friend. But the sad part of the story will be the fact you'll pass it off as anyone but the racers fault and still carry on being ignorant.

 

I just hope you all get arrested and your cars get crushed before you ruin someones life for your own selfish behaviour. If you have nowhere offroad to race, just don't race. It's simple as that.

[holdenrulz]

Frankly if you can't afford a advanced driving course then you should save up for one, Personally I am planning to attend a advanced driving course as soon as I can as I believe some require you to be on your Probationary license for 6 months or something before they will except you.

 

Personally to my knowledge around here most illegal acts of that nature are done on industrial estates were there is less of a possiblity to injure pedestrians.

 

Frankly to me this whole illegal street racing is stupid I mean did anybody ever think of maybe forming a club and asking the local council if they could use any areas with proper safety measures I'm sure if you gained permission from the relavent councilmen then there would be no problem, Most likely the main reason they would have refuse permission is if it causes a danger that cannot be avoided, if you form a group large enought you could probably rent a race track for say a weekend.

 

And as Dup said you cannot learn driving/shooting from a video game, hell jeremy clarckson from top gear proved that in the ep where he tried to replicate a lap time he did from Gran Turismo 4.

 

If it's illegal it for a reason and there are legal ways of doing the reason race tracks are legal is because they are isolated from the general public and they have a ton of safety equipment and usually ambulance crews on standby, If you live 2 hours away from a racetrack you have no excuse not to use it, hell some saloon car racers travel interstate to race so why can't you drive 2 hours to legally enjoy your need for speed, even if you live 6 hours from a race track then there is bound to be an area that is suitable or you can apply to have closed through your council so you can enjoy it.

 

But since I have only just bought my first car(A 1985 Ford Falcon 6 cylinder in case you wanted to know and yes I know it's ironic but a roadworthy registered car for $500 when registration cost $560, and from a mate I'm not going to turn down, it would be rude ) and am not on a probationary or full licence yet then my opinion may not mean much, but as an avided modifacation(sp?) magazine reader(e.g. Street Commodores) I get the feeling from those who do it legally that they think illegal street racers/hoons are idiots.