cloudstrife992 Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 Tommy Vercetti was definitely the best protagonist in the GTA games. Toni Cipriani is dull as ditchwater however. He's just a generic mafia goon, and doesn't have particularly good voice acting or good lines to say. KM. tommy and toni are two bad-asses who can fight, but tommy vercetti is better by a toni. Tommy doesnt follow anyone, he is a leader, he doesnt listen to his mom, he doesnt listen to some old paranoid guy who eventually gets killed, he doesnt listen to some woman who gets shot at the end of gta3. He lives in a mansion on the best city(geographica;;y). He is rich as hell, he owns an entire city, but toni on the other hand is just some guy who listens to his mommy, does w/e his "old man" does, doent own anything but lives in 2 apartments, owns a small house with 4 stolen cars (that is if you steal 4 cars), lives in a crappy town that is bad as hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliMex Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 I think it was mentioned in SA that Ken had to go into rehab because of his drug addiction (this was already mentioned, I know) but that got out of touch with Tommy and was hired as a neutral party for the 3 mafia gangs in order to keep everything just peachy in LV. I haven't seen that introduciton yet but stuff just happens and you can lose contact with people. Do you really think Tommy would like to have a drug addict work for him? Ken let drugs control him so Tommy wouldn't want him back unless he knew Ken was "cured" or something. I would love to see or even get to play as Tommy again but I think that the way Rockstar handles each new game, maybe a new character will be best. It helps keep the games fresh like a Ziploc bag. I think Tommy and CJ were the 2 best characters. Tommy was someone you couldn't control, a homocidal sociopath, psychopath or whatever, he liked killing. CJ was the opposite but you wouldn't expect him getting payback or doing some of the things he did in SA. I love the ones who get no respect but surprise the ones who disrespect him/her. He stole a military jetpack and VTOL plane. He even jumped out a plane without a parachute in one mission. On Ray Liotta, I think he only took the job just for the money and he would not reprise his role as Tommy. I think if the amount of money was right, he would do it again. For the main characters, you shouldn't have to change voice actors especially if the character is someone like Tommy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Dante Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 I always thought that the guy who is Ken's bodygaurd in SA was Tommy. He looked the same (although a little fatter), dressed in the same shirt, and sounded the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet J Lou Posted July 9, 2006 Share Posted July 9, 2006 It may not be impossible for Tommy Vercetti to be dead. Lets state the facts: Sonny set up the Harwood massacre which got Tommy jailed and 15 years later he got out and became the kingpin of Vice City. Sonny came down and tried to take over but lost which made Tommy and the Forelli's permanent enemies. This may be wrong but just consider it: Since the Leones and Forellis are at war the Leones might have found some interest in Tommy and hired him and Rosenburg leaving Rosenburg working for the families but Rosenburg was still OK with the Forelli's so he wasn't a target but Tommy was. Here's the interesting part: Toni killed a fellow Leone for Salvatore which might have been Tommy cause he was too much of a risk which might have led to Rosenburg being too scared to quit so he carried on working for the Mafia. In SA Ken wanted to be normal and this could be because he was scared and as for one mission in SA, he mentions Tommy . So what do you think? Just an idea that I thought up while cruising through harwood in GTA3 . If I'm wrong then don't flame me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Hill Posted July 9, 2006 Share Posted July 9, 2006 (edited) Toni killed another Leone, right? Well Tommy wasn't a Leone, he had his own mob. If Toni killed Tommy in Vice, why ould he need to go into hiding, why not just go back to Liberty where he'd be safe. Because Toni had to leave Liberty, the guy he killed was probably a Liberty mobster. Edited July 25, 2006 by Cypress Hill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlockWorkz Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I don't think its solid proof that he is dead but it certainly is plausible, he could of gone down in similar fashion to Toni Montana in Scarface. But honestly who knows, still good to speculate about these things. Yep. A Terminator look-a-like dressed in black holding a shotgun slowly walks behind Tommy and shoots him.[/spolier] (Spoiler'd it if you haven't watched Scarface. Though it's a shame if you haven't watched it, it's been on Spike TV countless of times, and it's a crazy movie.) And also, in the Introduction Movie thing for San Andreas, it shows Ken trying to contact Tommy, but something happens that they refused Ken to talk to him. (I forgot, haven't watched it in a while.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenteus Maximus Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 It may not be impossible for Tommy Vercetti to be dead. Lets state the facts: Sonny set up the Harwood massacre which got Tommy jailed and 15 years later he got out and became the kingpin of Vice City. Sonny came down and tried to take over but lost which made Tommy and the Forelli's permanent enemies. This may be wrong but just consider it: Since the Leones and Forellis are at war the Leones might have found some interest in Tommy and hired him and Rosenburg leaving Rosenburg working for the families but Rosenburg was still OK with the Forelli's so he wasn't a target but Tommy was. Here's the interesting part: Toni killed a fellow Leone for Salvatore which might have been Tommy cause he was too much of a risk which might have led to Rosenburg being too scared to quit so he carried on working for the Mafia. In SA Ken wanted to be normal and this could be because he was scared and as for one mission in SA, he mentions Tommy . So what do you think? Just an idea that I thought up while cruising through harwood in GTA3 . If I'm wrong then don't flame me. I agree with part of what you said. Mainly the part about the Leone's and Tommy having mutual interest in keeping the Forelli's down. I would imagine this mutual need would keep them on the same side. As for Ken, i can see why the Forelli's wouldn't have a big problem with him. A: he did get Giorgio Forelli off (with Tommy's help) and B: he was exiled by Tommy bc of his drug problem. What i wanted to mention was what someone said earlier about Tommy possibly being pissed about Donald Love whacking Avery. I don't imagine he would be because from what little we see of Avery in LCS, it seems as though he isn't working with Tommy anymore. He was working for PanLantic Construction, which we all know from GTA3 was the front for the Colombian Cartel. Now that said, if he was still working with Tommy, i doubt he'd be too thrilled about Avery siding with the Colombians. Why do i think this? Well for two reasons: First being that Diaz was a Colombian so i don't think Tommy seizing his empire would put him on good terms with the Colombians. Second, Tommy had a pretty good alliance with Umberto and the Cubans so i'm guessing they would be his primary drug suppliers so the Colombians wouldn't like that either. I'm thinking maybe Avery and Tommy had a falling out of sorts and so Avery decided to help the Colombians instead. Or maybe Avery was just being greedy and had made enough money in Vice and decided to move on. Either way i don't imagine that if Avery were working for the Cartel that Tommy would really give a crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenteus Maximus Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Oops. Double post. Damn board errors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multiformat Gamer Posted July 13, 2006 Author Share Posted July 13, 2006 I just noticed that not one mention is made about tommy in LCS. Maybe the name vercetti is forbiden to be spoken in Liberty. But its quite possible some guys from the Mafia in liberty went to vice to try to kill tommy but something or someone must of interfered which helped tommy survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moth Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 tommy aint dead people cause he can't die because he has unlimited lives peace out Formerly known as The General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallo Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 ok everyone dont post here Multiformat Gamer is just a big attention seeker. he has posted multiple topic full of bullsh!t. just dont pay attention to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airbusa380 Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 I Dont Really Think He Is DEAD But Maybe He Went Away For A While And Kept His Head Down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rashon. Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Smallo's right we should post here. This topic IS full of bullsh*t like Smallo said so let's just drop this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA Life Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 I can't evan believe you guys braught this up before Vice City stories came out. We shouldn't think such things until VCS comes out first. Or at least find out some info about VCS, because I'm pretty sure they plan on putting in the fact that you might have to be the one that kills Tommy in VCS. Or maybe not, we'll find out soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciaran 06 Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 This person has posted the biggest load of crap(sorry),he should be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_HaVoK_ Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 I have the ps2 copy of LCS and I went to the church in Stauton Island to see Tommy's grave. I checked every single tombstone but the name Tommy or Vercitti is on none of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyedyeskyguy Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 No, he is not, and I've completed the game 100% and can verify that, OS LETS ALL STOP POSTING HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azkickin Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 No Tommy tombstone but people you whack in lcs appear on the tombstone after you kill them. like vinnie, JD O'toole, sucho, and others have their names on tombstones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guv Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Whether or not Multiformat Gamer is accurate with his conclusions, at least he has posted something worth reading and interesting. To say he should be banned on the strength of his post (as some have) is bizarre. Perhaps they would be wise to scrutinise their own contributions to GTA Forums before clammering for another's removal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekkenfreek233 Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Shouldn't This Topic Be Locked And Deleted, Now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinful Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Or you could just let the topic die! -.-' Why bump this? ¬¬ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seddo Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 wowwwwwww that was the biggest bump ever in the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris louie Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 (edited) EDIT: Don't worry. Edited September 4, 2006 by chris louie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Ryder Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 Theres a mission in San Andreas That after Johnny Sindacco Died Ken Says about Tommy Vercetti but CJ asked "Who The f*ck is this tommy?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris louie Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 Wow, that's cool, but I don't remember it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigun Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 Yeah yeah, in that meat factory mission Ken comes with CJ and while CJ shoots he extinguishes fires 'n stuff, he says something like "This is just like old times Tommy" and CJ replies with "Who the f*ck is Tommy?". But that means NOTHING, it doesn't mean Vercetti's dead. No reason for CJ to really hear about VC, sure you'd say he would read newspapers in Liberty but really I don't think he did, the most he really cared about was Los Santos. Also, the first time you go in the SA storyline to San Fierro CJ says he never even been there before (probably same for LV too) so don't expect him to have a lot of knowledge about the wide world. And yeah whoever bumped is really an idiot and an attention seeker just like the main poster.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seddo Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 Theres a mission in San Andreas That after Johnny Sindacco Died Ken Says about Tommy Vercetti but CJ asked "Who The f*ck is this tommy?" yeah but whats that got to do about tommy supposedlt being dead in LCS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Ryder Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 The Forellis were fleeing because of the Leone Family thats why Forellis arnt Active in GTA III but Tommy is dead too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seddo Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Tommy will only ever die by old age, nothing else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moth Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Tommy will only ever die by old age, nothing else that is a true fact Formerly known as The General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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