DP/BP/EP/FP FORELLI EXSSES

[GTA_Loco]

Cool. Finally, an obtainable BP/EP/FP/DP car in Liberty City Stories, and a sporty one too. In fact, the two cars you're supposed to smash up to provoke the Forellis into a two-wave shootout with you are obtainable BP/EP/FP/DP cars . Curiously, the proofing for both cars would apply one at a time on each of them at certain stages of the attack, during which you have to ditch each car into the water to be able to “destroy” it first to obtain the proofing. You can choose to get only one or both of them, the methods would vary just slightly.

 

This is also a no wanted level mission as soon as you start it, so you don't have to worry about the law enforcers getting in your way.

 

METHOD 1 (for obtaining any one of the car)

 

Start the mission and head right away to any of the two parked Forelli Exsess in Witchita Gardens. Don't bother picking up the hoods as they're pretty much useless anyway. Once you arrived at any one of the parked cars, ride or hit it to provoke the first wave of the shootout, but don't engage the Forellis yet at this stage. You must ditch into the water first the other parked car that you haven't touched yet, which would become BP/EP/FP/DP once the situation is provoked, the but only while the first wave of attack is in progress.

 

If you're going to the direction of the tunnel, there’s a lagoon to your right (from your point of view) where you can ditch the car. There's a portion in the lagoon by the curve of the road that is deep enough and gradually slopes down into the water. You can tell if you've ditched the car properly: 1) if you don't hear the sound of its muffler anymore with half of the car submerged and 2) if upon finishing off the first wave of gunfight you receive the message "Exact Revenge on the Forellis" almost immediately upon being instructed to smash up another car. This would confirm you've somehow smashed it up already by ditching it into the water. But if you didn't receive the "Exact Revenge on the Forellis" message and see a red arrow appear above the car instead even though it's underwater, then you've failed to ditch it deep enough and you've lost that one already, which means it has reverted back to being a normal one.

 

Assuming you did just right in ditching the car, proceed with killing all the Forellis then after which you will be told to smash up the second car which happens to be the one in the water already. If the situation is provoked almost right away by sucessfully submerging the car, don't fight yet. Drive that car out of the water, test it first for its proofing if you wish to make sure; if it is proofed already, finish off the Forellis using the car and pass the mission. Just store it in the garage and save.

 

If by stroke of bad luck you failed to obtain the proofing of the first car you submerged into the water, you can get another shot at the other car that you've first smashed up, since at the second stage of the shootout it will be transformed into BP/EP/FP/DP too. But again you need to ditch it into the water properly as well and just keep it there submerged until you pass the mission. Make sure however that you lure and kill the last of the gangsters near the car or it might vanish.

 

 

METHOD 2 ( for obtaining both of them)

 

Do the mission up to the point where you have to smashed up any of the two parked Forelli Exsess cars in Wichita Gardens. Hit any of the parked cars to provoke the Forellis, but don't fight with them yet.

 

Ditch the other car you haven't touched yet, which at this point is already BP/EP/FP/DP, into the water by the lagoon in Witchita Gardens. Kill all the Forellis in the first wave, and if you receive the message "Exact Revenge on the Forellis" almost immediately upon being instructed to smash up another car, then you're good to go. This would confirm that you've ditched the car properly into the water, "destroyed" it and have preserved the proofing, and have somehow smashed it up as well. But if you didn't receive the message almost right away and see a red arrow appear above the car instead, then you've failed to preserve its proofing and have lost that one already. You have to restart the mission again.

 

If you did just right in ditching the car, proceed with killing all the Forellis then after which you will be told to smash up the second car which happens to be the one in the water already. Now first drive that car out of the water and test it first for its proofing. If everything's just okay, store it in your garage then head back to where you left the other car you first smashed up. At this point that car would be proofed already. Ditch this one also into the water in exactly the same manner you did for the other one. Don't worry about leaving it into the water far from where you will move around during the shootout since it won't disappear.

 

Now kill the Forellis in the second wave fight but leave at least one or two and make them follow you to the spot where the car is so that it won't vanish. Complete the mission, drive the car out of the water, store it in your garage together with the other one and save.

 

You're now the owner of a couple of cool Comprehensiveproof Forelli Exsess cars, nice trophies to have and probably the only type of car that is Comprehensiveproof in Liberty City Stories.

Edited August 2, 2006 by GTA_Loco

[CurrentlyCarrotfoot]

Nice one, I'll try and remember this when I start a new game.

 

I give you congratulations.

[GTA_Loco]

Hey thanks man. Hope you won't forget to get the others when you play again. There are a bunch more cool special vehicles in the game.

[Forelli_Boy]

I'm definitely tracking this jewel. BTW I'm assuming you've done this on the PSP version, you caught me a bit late on the PSP so hopefully it will work out on the PS2 version.

[GTA_Loco]

I'm definitely tracking this jewel. BTW I'm assuming you've done this on the PSP version, you caught me a bit late on the PSP so hopefully it will work out on the PS2 version.

Nope, this is PS2 version. Btw, since you said you're using PS2, does it happen to you also that the garages can't restore destroyed cars? Just curious about this because in my case I can't restore burnt cars in my garage

[GTA_Loco]

Double post

Edited June 28, 2006 by GTA_Loco

[Nick000]

I'm definitely tracking this jewel. BTW I'm assuming you've done this on the PSP version, you caught me a bit late on the PSP so hopefully it will work out on the PS2 version.

Nope, this is PS2 version. Btw, since you said you're using PS2, does it happen to you also that the garages can't restore destroyed cars? Just curious about this because in my case I can't restore burnt cars in my garage

Same here, I was trying to store Salvatore's BP limo in 'Search and rescue'

But when I tried to destroy it, it dissapeared in the garage.

[Lindbergh]

I pushed the helicopter you destroy in "The Passion of the Heist" all the way to the Staunton hideout just to have it disappear as it went into the garage. That stunk. As of yet, I haven't seen the garages restore a destroyed vehicle.

[GTA_Loco]

Yeah, I suspect that it's indeed a new garage feature in the game. That's why any method that would require destroying a special vehicle to obtain it is impossible. The only way so far that could work is ditching it into the water.

 

I even tested destroying a normal motorbike in an empty Staunton garage and tried to restore it but it would always disappear. This could be a new surprise Rockstar pulled up with this game, for what reason we can't tell yet.

[MC.]

Oh man, it's not in the PSP version? Damn, that sucks. I guess this is the only reason for me to get this game for PS2 since I like special proof vehicles and since this game is a bit different than the PSP version. I hope there's some more special proof vehicles in the PS2 version.

[GTA_Loco]

 

I guess this is the only reason for me to get this game for PS2 since I like special proof vehicles and since this game is a bit different than the PSP version. I hope there's some more special proof vehicles in the PS2 version.

There are actually, much much more if you check http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=248571. If you fancy exclusively colored vehicles too, there are about almost a dozen of them too in the game.

Edited June 27, 2006 by GTA_Loco

[MC.]

Is there a way to get the BP/FP/EP Kurama in the mission "Smash & Grab"? I've tried to push it to the garage but when it was in the garage, it disappeared.

[GTA_Loco]

 

Is there a way to get the BP/FP/EP Kurama in the mission "Smash & Grab"? I've tried to push it to the garage but when it was in the garage, it disappeared.

I believe this is just one of the several unobtainable bulletproof cars in the game. Just last night I managed to painstakingly pushed it to the water then killed the mafia boys but it would always disappear once the mission failure message appears. I guess you have to be in it so that it won't disappear but since it is locked, that would be impossible. This is almost similar to the Hellenbach GT in the "Snuff" mission. That Kuruma would have been nice since aside from its proofings, it also has an exclusive black color.

[MC.]

I tried out your method to get the BP/DP/FP/EP Forelli Excess and OMG... It worked on the PSP version! You are a genius my filipino friend. Pure genius. =O!

Edited July 5, 2006 by MC_320

[Gman8]

OK, I have tried out this TWICE and didn't end up with this indestructable Excess. Why? Here's what I did

 

1: Started the mission by hitting one car. Once I did that, I headed out towards the other car

2: Drove off in the OTHER Excess to the curve grassy point as stated

3: Drove the car slowly towards the grassy shore and into the water, to the point where I started to lose some life

4: Got out of the car and headed towards where the first wave was, and killed them there.

5: Recieved instructions to hit the same car that I recently put into the water

6: Did that, went back and killed the Forelli's, sans for 1 guy

7: Stole a car and headed towards the Excess on the water as the Forelli guy chased me.

8: Killed the Forelli guy, passed the mission.

9: Got in the car, almost drowned in the process, and took the car towards my Shoreside Vale garage

10: Once inside the garage, got out and saved it.

11: Came back out, wiped out the M4 to test the car out and it EXPLODED like a regular car

 

 

Now for those who really did get the car, what did I do wrong? Any advice? Does this really work? HELP

 

and btw, this is the PS2 version.

[MC.]

OK, I have tried out this TWICE and didn't end up with this indestructable Excess. Why? Here's what I did

 

1: Started the mission by hitting one car. Once I did that, I headed out towards the other car

2: Drove off in the OTHER Excess to the curve grassy point as stated

3: Drove the car slowly towards the grassy shore and into the water, to the point where I started to lose some life

4: Got out of the car and headed towards where the first wave was, and killed them there.

5: Recieved instructions to hit the same car that I recently put into the water

6: Did that, went back and killed the Forelli's, sans for 1 guy

7: Stole a car and headed towards the Excess on the water as the Forelli guy chased me.

8: Killed the Forelli guy, passed the mission.

9: Got in the car, almost drowned in the process, and took the car towards my Shoreside Vale garage

10: Once inside the garage, got out and saved it.

11: Came back out, wiped out the M4 to test the car out and it EXPLODED like a regular car

 

 

Now for those who really did get the car, what did I do wrong? Any advice? Does this really work? HELP

 

and btw, this is the PS2 version.

I've had these problems before on my second try. You have to make sure you don't get instructions to destroy the other Forelli Exsess. And if you're testing it out, check if it's DP first by crashing into some stuff.

[Gman8]

 

OK, I have tried out this TWICE and didn't end up with this indestructable Excess. Why? Here's what I did

 

1: Started the mission by hitting one car. Once I did that, I headed out towards the other car

2: Drove off in the OTHER Excess to the curve grassy point as stated

3: Drove the car slowly towards the grassy shore and into the water, to the point where I started to lose some life

4: Got out of the car and headed towards where the first wave was, and killed them there.

5: Recieved instructions to hit the same car that I recently put into the water

6: Did that, went back and killed the Forelli's, sans for 1 guy

7: Stole a car and headed towards the Excess on the water as the Forelli guy chased me.

8: Killed the Forelli guy, passed the mission.

9: Got in the car, almost drowned in the process, and took the car towards my Shoreside Vale garage

10: Once inside the garage, got out and saved it.

11: Came back out, wiped out the M4 to test the car out and it EXPLODED like a regular car

 

 

Now for those who really did get the car, what did I do wrong? Any advice? Does this really work? HELP

 

and btw, this is the PS2 version.

I've had these problems before on my second try. You have to make sure you don't get instructions to destroy the other Forelli Exsess. And if you're testing it out, check if it's DP first by crashing into some stuff.

But how would you do that? If you drive off too far into the water, you die. But how would you actually "destroy" the car by making it out of the water alive? If you use another car to push that one into the lake, how would you retrive it later? And if I destroy the Everything proof Excess, does a new one spawn up? I need help badly.

 

Here's a map I drew real quick. Is this the best place to dump the car?

Edited July 13, 2006 by Gman8

[MC.]

I drove the car into the rocky area next to the billboards.

[Gman8]

But how do you know the car is far enough under water? How far did you go?

 

The original poster said to go untul you couldn't hear the exhaust, but I tried that and almost died doing it because it was too deep. So did you go behind one of the billboards or between both of them?

[MC.]

But how do you know the car is far enough under water? How far did you go?

 

The original poster said to go untul you couldn't hear the exhaust, but I tried that and almost died doing it because it was too deep. So did you go behind one of the billboards or between both of them?

I didn't go behind any billboards. I couldn't tell the sound of the exhausts so the only way I can tell if the vehicle is in the water if there's no instructions given to you to smash up the second Forelli Exsess.

 

Here's where I went:

 

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/MC_320/screen2-5.jpg

 

Is this the exact same place where you went?

 

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/MC_320/screen1-7.jpg

 

Try to drive the vehicle in this area:

 

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/MC_320/screen3-5.jpg

[Gman8]

But how do you know the car is far enough under water? How far did you go?

 

The original poster said to go untul you couldn't hear the exhaust, but I tried that and almost died doing it because it was too deep. So did you go behind one of the billboards or between both of them?

I didn't go behind any billboards. I couldn't tell the sound of the exhausts so the only way I can tell if the vehicle is in the water if there's no instructions given to you to smash up the second Forelli Exsess.

 

Here's where I went:

 

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/MC_320/screen2-5.jpg

 

Is this the exact same place where you went?

 

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/MC_320/screen1-7.jpg

 

Try to drive the vehicle in this area:

 

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/MC_320/screen3-5.jpg

1st pic -- where is that?

 

2nd pic -- Yes that's where I went

 

3rd pic -- where is it?

 

I appreciate you taking the pics. But I couldn't make out where it was because of the size.

[Gman8]

Nevermind I think I found it. Lemme go try it now...

[MC.]

 

But how do you know the car is far enough under water? How far did you go?

 

The original poster said to go untul you couldn't hear the exhaust, but I tried that and almost died doing it because it was too deep. So did you go behind one of the billboards or between both of them?

I didn't go behind any billboards. I couldn't tell the sound of the exhausts so the only way I can tell if the vehicle is in the water if there's no instructions given to you to smash up the second Forelli Exsess.

 

Here's where I went:

 

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/MC_320/screen2-5.jpg

 

Is this the exact same place where you went?

 

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/MC_320/screen1-7.jpg

 

Try to drive the vehicle in this area:

 

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/MC_320/screen3-5.jpg

1st pic -- where is that?

 

2nd pic -- Yes that's where I went

 

3rd pic -- where is it?

 

I appreciate you taking the pics. But I couldn't make out where it was because of the size.

For the first and third pics, it's around the area of the billboards (The Mainframe & Silent But Violent) in Wichita Gardens. The third pic of that area is behind the "Silent But Violent" movie billboard.

 

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/MC_320/screen3-5.jpg

 

http://s33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/MC_3...nt=video2-1.flv

Edited July 13, 2006 by MC_320

[Gman8]

Dang, sorry for being a dumbass, but I keep either not going in far enough or going in too far. I have beaten all the GTA games since GTAIII and this is easily the hardest thing for me, surpassing Supply Lines and The mission where you kill Paul Sindacco

 

Thanks for all the help MC_320. Have a while I go try this all for the rest of the night. You did your part, now I just have to complete the mission. Peace

[MC.]

No problem. I'm glad I could help. Thanks for the cookie. =P

[Gman8]

 

Just passed it with the Excess

 

Was it really THAT hard? Yeah, sort of. You have no way of telling when is deep enough so it can take you a lot of tries. But in the end, it's well worth it. For me, it had a lot to do with just luck and just the right timing. Don't take it too close to the shore because obviously the car returns to normal after the mission. And the waves could also wash the car back to shore if you don't go far enough. Also, don't take it in too far as to when you start losing life or the car can't drive out. Without being precise, this could easily take you more than 5 tries,

 

And another thanks to MC_320. Couldn't have done it without your help for sure.

 

[MC.]

Just passed it with the Excess

 

Was it really THAT hard? Yeah, sort of. You have no way of telling when is deep enough so it can take you a lot of tries. But in the end, it's well worth it. For me, it had a lot to do with just luck and just the right timing. Don't take it too close to the shore because obviously the car returns to normal after the mission. And the waves could also wash the car back to shore if you don't go far enough. Also, don't take it in too far as to when you start losing life or the car can't drive out. Without being precise, this could easily take you more than 5 tries,

 

And another thanks to MC_320. Couldn't have done it without your help for sure.

Yeah it's a bit difficult but after a few tries it's worth it. Which water location in Wichita Gardens did you drive the car into?

[Gman8]

^I did it near the Mainframe billboard. I couldn't get the car over to behind the other billboard.

[GTA_Loco]

Just passed it with the Excess

 

Congrats for the sucess

 

Try not hitting the second car when you get instructions to smash it up. If you submerge it properly (you don't hear the muffler's sound), the game would read that it's been smashed up already. And you'd know too that you've done it properly if you get the message "Exact revenge on the Forellis"(?) almost immediately after you're told to smash up the other car. The car should be proofed already.

 

[Gman8]

And one more thing

 

I am disappointed at one thing about this car: You can't shoot the tires out, but the police spike strips can pop out the tires.