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Early PS3s to ship with PS2 hardware built-in?


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This news is from eurogamer

 

The first versions of the PlayStation 3 to hit shelves will offer complete backwards compatibility with PS2 and PS1 titles by including a version of the PS2 hardware in the system, according to a report in a Japanese technology magazine.

 

Ultra One magazine is this month reporting that the core chipset of the PS2 will be built into early revisions of the PS3 hardware, thereby providing full emulation of the PlayStation back catalogue.

 

According to Ultra One, the emulation software which would accomplish the same task without any dedicated hardware, and which GamesIndustry.biz first reported on back in April, will be included in future versions of the PS3 once Sony is satisfied with its ability to fully support the back catalogue.

 

The move isn't an entirely surprising one; until we uncovered the details of Sony's teams working on software emulation systems, it had been widely expected that the PS2 chipset would be built into the PS3, just as the PS2 itself has a version of the PS1 chipset on board.

 

Although Sony would undoubtedly prefer the software emulation route to cut costs in the long term, the inclusion of the PS2 hardware in the first revisions of the PS3 is unlikely to hurt the hardware giant significantly - the PS2 itself is now effectively a "system on a chip", with a single low-cost chip package performing all of the functions of the console.

 

Sony itself has not yet commented on how it plans to achieve backwards compatibility with its PS2 and PS1 catalogues, but the firm has pledged that the PS3 will be able to play all TRC-compliant games at launch - representing the vast majority of the back catalogue.

 

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What about it? This is normal for sony, as it said in the article. The PS2 has the PS1 chip built in to allow us to play all our old games. The PS3 is doing the same so then its fully backward compatible unlike the 360

 

I dont see the wtf point of this

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Yeah, PS2 had the same thing for backwards compatibilty. Only problem is, PS2 and PS1 games don't look any better as a result. Xbox360 uses the xbox360 hardware, therefore it can use things like Anti-Aliasing etc.

 

Meh.

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Yeah James has a point, if they had emulated it like the 360 does it would imprrove the graphics on games, Anti-Aliasing would make quite a big differnce gaphics wise.

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Didn't the PS2 play PS1 games through software emulation?

 

Anyway, I was expecting this - the PS2 is still a powerful machine and this makes it quite difficult to emulate, even for Sony. At least it will ensure that the vast majority of the PS2 and PS1 catalogue will be playable on the machine, and they don't 'do an Xbox' and drip feed us with patches for the more popular games.

 

Still, I am now even more inclined to put off buying a PS3 for a while.

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Still, I am now even more inclined to put off buying a PS3 for a while.

Same here, until GTA4 comes out. Then the house gets re-mortgaged tounge.gif

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CaliGangstar

You missed the part about how this is only early PS3s and later versions are going to drop the PS2 chip, and instead just ship with a seperate mini-PS2.

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Grandthefter

 

Yeah, PS2 had the same thing for backwards compatibilty. Only problem is, PS2 and PS1 games don't look any better as a result. Xbox360 uses the xbox360 hardware, therefore it can use things like Anti-Aliasing etc.

 

Meh.

I still prefer the PS3's way of doing that. I won't have to fork out an extra £50 to play a port of burnout revenge their way

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Yeah, I'd rather be able to play all PS2 and PS1 games, over a select few that I have to re-buy.

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Yeah, I'd rather be able to play all PS2 and PS1 games, over a select few that I have to re-buy.

No kidding, I'm still pissed Conkers isn't playable of the 360... Best game I played in a long time and they don't even add it to the list and they stoped working on it... f*ckoffs

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Still, I am now even more inclined to put off buying a PS3 for a while.

Same here, until GTA4 comes out. Then the house gets re-mortgaged tounge.gif

LMAO biggrin.gif

 

yeah im not buying a ps3 straight away im going to wait a while because it will decrease in price drasticly after a few weeks/months

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I won't be getting a PS3 for atleast 2 or 3 years after its out anyway..so I don't really care. tounge.gif

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Pardon the bump but I have to ask:

 

Is the XBOX360 not backwards-compatible with the XBOX?

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Pardon the bump but I have to ask:

 

Is the XBOX360 not backwards-compatible with the XBOX?

Most Xbox games are compatible with the Xbox 360.

 

On topic: Are Sony actually tring to make the PS3 as expensive as possible?

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Pardon the bump but I have to ask:

 

Is the XBOX360 not backwards-compatible with the XBOX?

A list of them do with a patch that MS are expanding over time to include more titles. The most popular games are supposed to be working but some popular ones aren't. MS have the list on their website I believe.

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On topic: Are Sony actually tring to make the PS3 as expensive as possible?

Actually, everything I've read has Sony selling the PS3 at a big loss at first, with the idea that they can recoup some losses from game sales and breaking even (and then turning a profit) from streamlining the system (as they did with the PS2 in redesign) and reductions in production costs as time goes by.

 

Expensive, yes, but very powerful.

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I think some of the figures are ridiculous, I think Sony confirmed they expect to have a loss of $180 Million dollars on launch of the PS3, i think Sony have just unestimated the cost of everything, even though the launch is in November i still find it hard to beleive that they're still adding and taking things out of the console.

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They must know what their doing, they have been in the gaming console business for around 10 years. Maybe they are purposely releasing their info to see how the public react and change the console accordingly.

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