Squirrels Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 OK. So, in this PC I have a P4 3.0 Ghz, my brother has the same. I have 1 gb of dual channel ram, my brother has the same. I have a p4p800e motherboard, my brother has the same. I have an all-in-wonder x800xt, my brother has an x800 pro. We both use the same ATI drivers. We both have Battlefield 2. He gets 60fps+, I get 25. What the f*ck. I reformatted today, still no change. Help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainland Marauder Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 Just a hunch, is his frame limiter turned off and yours is on? "You tell me exactly what you want, and I'll explain to you very carefully why it cannot be." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA3Freak-2001 Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 Yup San Andreas frame limit is set to 25FPS which is what the PS2 version ran at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf68k Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 It's BF2 guys, not GTASA that he has the problem with. Are you both running the same exact settings in BF2? Have YOU done a spyware scan? Are you both running the same background programs? When you're comparing systems and their performances, EVERYTHING has to be the same. Not just the generalized things like mobo, cpu and RAM. When the pros do GFX card reviews, all they are doing for the most part is just swaping the cards in the same rig. It's when they swap in a nVidia card for an ATI card that things will start to change some. But the point is that as far as the OS goes everything is still the same; same serives running/disabled/whatever, same background apps running (not including things for the card's drivers), the same everything. I'm not sure how much of a difference an AiW would make compared to a non-AiW of the same card. In theory I would guess none. And according to the specs you should be getting the same or, more likely, more fps from BF2 than he should since his card is slower and 4 fewer pixel pipelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixdust Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 AN all in wonder card blows, sure its a tv tuner card with a graphics card, but the All in wonder cards are never up to speed with their ordinary or pro counterparts. Basically x800pro > x800xt AIW. Then agian the x800 isnt the greatest card out there either, but it more than does the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrels Posted May 31, 2006 Author Share Posted May 31, 2006 AN all in wonder card blows, sure its a tv tuner card with a graphics card, but the All in wonder cards are never up to speed with their ordinary or pro counterparts. Basically x800pro > x800xt AIW. Then agian the x800 isnt the greatest card out there either, but it more than does the job. K. Anyway... @ Wolf: He actually has more things running in the background than I do. I've changed the settings all around, they are mostly medium so I can manage playing, but if I put them a bit higher, to make it look a bit better, it chokes. Like i said, I reformatted a bit ago, so I shouldn't have any spyware, but I scanned anyway, still nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf68k Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 If you can do this, just for grins and giggles put his card in your system and see how BF2 does then and without changing anything else about your system or BF2. You may have to reinstall the video drivers, so what might be a good idea to go ahead to completely uninstall the drivers anyway and use DriverCleaner Pro to clean them out in SafeMode. Then shut down, swap cards, start up and install fresh drivers. If the game plays better then you know it's the AiW card's fault. If it still plays like crap then I honestly have no idea. Things like that make it very hard to me to come up with something when it's not hands on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrels Posted May 31, 2006 Author Share Posted May 31, 2006 If you can do this, just for grins and giggles put his card in your system and see how BF2 does then and without changing anything else about your system or BF2. Yeah, that's what I plan to do, I'll do that later tonight after class. I'll let you know how it turns out. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spenc938 Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 Couldn't specific Windows settings also change that? Maybe not by that much though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majestic Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 Are you running the same drivers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrels Posted June 1, 2006 Author Share Posted June 1, 2006 @ Majestic, yeah, we're both using the same drivers (cat. 6.5) I exchanged the video cards, and on his computer, he still got 60 fps, on mine, I still got 25 fps. Soooo. wtfmate? The only difference I can think of between our computers is that he has 4 sticks of 256 mb ram each, and I have 2 sticks of 512 mb ram each. Should I give it a shot and switch ram? or is there some bigger problem I'm not seeing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixdust Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 That may be the issue, since usually more shared ram works better, however, it seems that the 512mb sticks are shared too. If you truely wanted to find the problem, you would have to reformat, knowing that you and your brother dont run the same exact programs/visit the same website or take care of your pcs differently. One more thing to try, is to put your graphics card in his pc (like you did) and then reinstall the drivers. The drivers when installed, may have installed for your brothers card and made the card work at his speeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf68k Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 I'm lazy and I didn't really see you mention it at all. Run MemTest86+. Use the floppy version if you have a floppy drive, if not then obviously use the CD version. Let it run for a few hours, well atleast for 1-Pass...there are about 10 tests to each pass. If you get any errors, that might be what's causing the problem. I had gotten some Corsiar Value RAM this last Christmas. I didn't run memtest like I should have and things seem to be ok, until BF2 crashed a lot as did other memory intensive programs. Ran Memtest and it found 20+ errors. The replacements were worse with over 20,000+ errors. Refunded them and got some Kingston HyperX which passed with flying colors and even Prime95 couldn't hurt them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrels Posted June 2, 2006 Author Share Posted June 2, 2006 Hey! I put my brother's ram in my computer, and it fixed it! At first, I figured I had to buy new ram or something, but my brother suggested to put the ram sticks in a different pair of slots, so I did. Fixed it right up. So simple, hehe. Thanks for the effort though everyone You can lock this topic now or whatever you guys do nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuckindumass Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 (edited) I switched from an AIW to a PRO, and the difference is drastic. I actually prefer the AIW, as I render video as well as play games. SA on the AIW could run at 1024x768 with everything off. It runs about the same at 1600x1200 with everything on using the pro, however, rendering a 700mb .avi to dvd took under 3 hrs with the AIW, now takes almost 5 hrs with the pro, if it doesn't fail altogether. So, get the card that suits your purpose. Former card, 9600AIW, Latter card, X1600PRO As far as your ram switching goes, I would be interested to know what ram you have, and your brothers ram. I have 3x 512 kingston value ram. Could a switch be in order for me? Edited June 2, 2006 by fuckindumass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf68k Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 You don't render one video format to another, ie AVI to DVD, using the video card. That's all CPU and a good part RAM. If it took you 2 hours longer to do transencode the exact same AVI file to DVD, then there is a different issue. But some how I don't think you did it to same file so that's part of the reason it took longer and the rest could have been any number of other things. However rendering a 3D image is done in the video card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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