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I am 80% sure it would'nt be any of the characters we know before. Rockstar is tricky like that.

In LCS they had Tony Ciprianni, who we met in GTA3. Why would that present an entirely new character?

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The_Names_Chonks,_Marty_Chonks

Well, sometimes things do change, though.

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Forelli_Boy

Call it bias, but maybe it could be another mafioso sent by the Family to dispatch Tommy? Then there could be the final mission where Tommy says "Say Hello To My Little Friend!"

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I guess you're right ATK. Rockstar won't afford to make a completely new caharacter such as CJ, since like LCS to GTA 3, VCS would just be some sort of a side-story to Vice City. So, we'll probably see someone Tommy had a beef with (Whoever survived, that is) or worked with who just disappeared.

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PHRobertson

Although I'll probably never get to play it unless they release a PS2 version, I'll put down my ideas for a main character...

 

Before Vice City

 

A young Umberto Robina.

One of the Vance brothers.

Leo Teal.

 

Either Before or After Vice City

 

Pepe Robina.

Rico (It isn't made clear whether he survived his boat being blown up or not)

Some other Cuban.

A Haitian character.

A member of Mitch Baker's Biker gang (Cougar, Zeppelin, OC...)

 

After Vice City

 

The illegitimate son of Lance Vance.

 

My vote would go to a Cuban main character as, in the 3D GTA games, we've had a white guy ('Claude' in GTA3), two Italian-American Mafiosos (Tommy Vercetti in Vice City and Toni Cipriani in LCS) and a black guy (CJ in San Andreas), so I think they should make the next playable character Hispanic, just to set it apart from the others.

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TheFallenAngel

Ken Rosenberg, not a good choice. He's a lawyer not a tough guy. Same goes with Kent Paul. I just dont see him being a good lead guy.

 

A Cuban lead would be too much like Scarface

 

I think a friend of Tommy's from back in his days in Liberty who also had a falling out with the Forrelli's should come to town and do Tommy's dirty work or somethin. All in all, I would just like to see that Tommy doesn't get killed mad.gif

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Gantons Most Wanted

what about Phil Cassidy it could be in the early 80's round 82 or 83 it could show how he gets all his guns n how he set up his gun running business

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Maurice Chavez!

 

 

lol...I would like to see Tommy again since he is my favorite character, but I think it will be like LCS in how it took place before III and VCS will be before VC. Maybe have it be some unknown person and if it was Lance Vance's brother then he would probably die and that would be a weird ending to a GTA game for sure. I dunno who the main character will be or what time frame it's in but I'm glad another GTA game is visiting Vice City. inlove.gif

 

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set will be in the 90s or 2006 I CAN FEEL IT !!

the main character will probably be someone new , not someone we already know rahkstar2.gif

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Carlito_Brigante

I'd personally like to see a Cuban character who works for Umberto Robina and also does dirty work for our good friend Tommy Vercetti. Remember that the Cubans are in very good terms with Tommy, so it wouldn't be strange that you did some real wet work for him. I'd like it to be in the late 80's. Around two years after Tommy's whole fiasco. Maybe a character we know (Rico, Pepe, etc.) or an entirely new character that came straight from Cuba.

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Pre - 1986 as either Lance or Diaz. I can't think of any other charactor that may have had an interesting background to them.

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Born Acorn

Post 86, there are four years of 80's feeling to exploit. I'd probably like to be someone from the Cuban Gang. But the whole gangs thing was done to death in San Andreas, so I don't see VCS doing it.

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I think this game will be set in 1983. And a "San Andreas Stories" will probably be set in 1989.

I also think the game will not have a lead character who died in VC.

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wat about tommy vercetti 3 year after vice city

 

 

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StarJet905

Well, we'll have 2 wait and see.

Wonder who will come. A female character might do. LOL

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SeriousSam

1975 - "Big" Mitch Baker

Starts out with Mitch coming back from Vietnam.

 

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1983 - Umberto Robina

Starts with Umberto and his family moving from Cuba to VC.

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I personally hope we play as Lance Vance during the late 70's. It would explain a lot and show what happened in Vice City before Tommy arrived.

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I'll tell you who's too old: Colonel Cortez, Ken Rosenburg, Umberto Robina.

Those three won't be the main character definitely. Vice City is all about the 1980's. I think you might control Lance Vance because he isn't that stupid or neuronic even though he betrayed Tommy. Ricardo Diaz really isn't bad for the spot maybe we'll know why he is so badly emotional in Vice City. He was always saying d***head or s***head a lot.

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For all those offer Cortez as main character, I'd like to paste my comment about him from another topic, in which I explain why he won't be the main character:

 

He is a retired colonel from an unspecified Central American nation. He earned his wealth with corruption and theft of his homecountry (hope that explained his wealth). I belive Cortez's character is to portray guys like Manuel Noriega (Panama 1983 - 1989) or Anastasio Somoza Garcia (Nicaragua 1937 - 1956), Augusto Pinochet (Chile 1973 - 1990) or maybe even Ferdinand Marcos (Philippines 1965 - 1986) who actualy stole country's entire forgen currency reserve. Cortez is the man who came into power with coup detat or at least was part of the governing hunta, who decleared marshal law, was found guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity by international court of justis behind his back and stuff. Such dictator, as you might expect has very good international political and business contacts and maybe for some favor made for future host country during his time on power, he will never be brought to justice aslong as he keeps low profile. Such dictator ofcourse has lot of enemys too, beginning with the close-ones of those who "disappeared" during his regime and ending with hostile forgen goverments. He is kind of dictator who had millions stored in Swiss banks for the down times that may come. And when finaly overthrown (or things just got to hot), went to exile to somewhere like French Rivera or Miami (aka VC) where he could live clam life, spending his hoards. And Cortez is textbook example of such dictator.

 

GTAVCS could however explain how and when he got to the US but surely he, for obvious reasons, I'm 100% sure, won't be the main character.

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Rown’s Rundown

 

When?

 

 

It’s the 1980’s man!

 

I’d have to agree (out of context of course) with Maurice. Vice City was made to be an 80’s city, I personally can’t see the fascination with “Hey let’s do it in the 90’s!” It just doesn’t call out to me. Everything about Vice felt 80’s, the appearance, the people, the music. All of it. Vice isn’t quite as interchangeable as Liberty where you could pretty much set it in any time and it would be fun.

 

Now the 80’s is a pretty big decade, 9 years left after VC to choose from. But for the sake of keeping it simple I’m going to believe that Rockstar won’t leave their timeline of every game being 3 years apart from another.

 

 

2001- GTA III

1998- Liberty City Stories

1995-?

1992- San Andreas

1989-?

1986- Vice City

1983-?

 

 

This narrows it down to 1989, and 1983. Now me personally, I think ‘89 is too close to ’90 and loses a bit of the 80’s feel. That is why I think that might better be saved for any possible San Andreas sequel. Also, Vice City in 1989 would have to explain more of the Tommy Vercetti storyline and I’m quite able to just let him live the rest his life in happiness without some lesser character coming in and knocking him off. So for me at least, 1989 is a no-go.

 

This leaves us with 1983. Here’s a list of events that took place in 1983:

 

1983

 

With the events of the Cuban immigrants as well as U.S. wars in the Caribbean Sea you could tie in Umberto Robina, and Colonel Cortez. You could also tie in the starting of the Haitian/Cuban rivalry. In 1983 you could witness the rise of Ricardo Diaz as criminal kingpin of Vice City. So many questions can be answered in a prequel, and so many GTA useable things happened in that year. It does not necessarily have to run as a Scarface copy-cat, GTA can make its own twists and turns. I believe that if Rockstar sticks to their timetable that Vice City Stories will take place in the year 1983.

 

Who?

 

Now lets do yet another break down of characters and real reasons why they are less likely to be main's.

 

For your continuity enlightenment:

Vice City Site

 

Umberto Robina

He shares many of the same qualities of Toni Cipriani, some mentioned above, other than those he also shares the connection of being the child of a restaurant owner. He is a gang leader in 1986. He also fights a bitter war with the Haitians, which could be expanded upon in a prequel or sequel.

His fallback is in the continuity, on the vicecity site, he is considered more of a weakling than a true leader. He is not recorded as having committed any real offense. His responses in game also demonstrate his fear of true fighting. He sits back and lets Tommy do all the work. I do not consider him a good candidate as far as continuity goes.

 

Phil Cassidy

Phil is an honest to god redneck with an uncertain past and a history that looks like it was pumped full of buckshot. As a minor character in GTA3 and a supporting character in VC all we really discovered was that he does not like commies, he has a connection to Ray Machowski, and we learn how he loses his arm. Continuity is also messed up with him having supposedly fought in both Vietnam (according to him) and Nicaragua (according to Ray(I believe)). Pre-86 would be an interesting time to see what Phil was up to but his general attitude in VC makes him unappealing to me at least. Too much redneck.

 

Colonel Juan Garcia Cortez

The Colonel, is a very elegantly violent man. All of his missions felt like they had a touch of finesse to go with the mayhem. The chainsaw, the French, all of it feels a bit more than the average idiot sending you on a mission. He has no problems with continuity and the presence of family member’s means nothing as San Andreas proves but his catch is that he seems to powerful and too controlling. He doesn't seem like the hands on sort of guy that would be necessary for a prequel that demonstrates how things came to be. I might be wrong but that is my opinion.

 

Ricardo Diaz

Ricardo, Ricardo, Ricardo... I was glad to kill the guy. He was as Tommy Vercetti so eloquently puts it "a prick". He was also very psychotic when it came to weapons. A very handy trait in a game that could have him climbing his way to power. His physical composition could have also changed in that time, though he would still most likely be short in any earlier setting. He also has a slight tendency to be over a little too over bearing and his story might be too much of a darker, shorter version of Tommy Vercetti's own rise to the top. For that reason I view him as less likely for the position of main.

 

Leo Teal

Now Leo off the bat struck me as a possible candidate. He has worked with the Cubans and the mysterious Mr. Black. Umberto appears to respect him as your first phone call with him shows. He is for all intents and purposes a hired gun, a muscle man with a mysterious past. He could easily fill the role of main character with these qualities and leave room for storyline expansion. The downside... how to say this tactfully... his recorded continuity might be unsuitable for the position of main character. I'll let you read the site for clarification.

Somewhat along the lines of playing Donald Love after knowing his actions in LCS. It might come across as a little... strange and unsettling to most players (myself included). For that reason above all others I do not see him claiming the spot at lead.

 

Lance Vance

He is a recognized character yes, but he does not exude player confidence in my opinion. He did so little of the fighting and so much of the bitching in VC that it pretty much ruins his chances at lead. He also was not in Vice City that long before Tommy, in his first meeting with Tommy he says something along the lines of "we gotta look out for each other, two hombres in a strange town". He did not know Vice City that well at the start of the game, mostly enough for a man of his profession to get by. So I do not see him as a likely candidate for VCS unless it possibly ran parallel to VC during which he would have to die. Lance therefore seems unlikely as well as a main character.

 

Sonny Forelli

Sonny is violent, vulgar, and very controlling. A good possible pick for lead in a second game with a Vice setting except for the fact that he apparently has never been there before. In the beginning of Vice City he talks of expanding down south and getting into the drugs trade. This is a new idea to the Mafia and certainly a bold move by Sonny Forelli, not so much so if we have him running around in Vice City a few years before he decides to make this career defining move. For obvious location reasons Sonny does not fit the mold.

 

Mitch Baker

I like Big Mitch Baker, he seems to be a badass with the attitude that GTA curves into its games. His hair loss is really my only problem but three years earlier it might not have been so receded. He acts like a badass and talks like a badass. The only reason we don't see him in action is because of the story set up of VC. A prequel of how he and his biker gang got situated in southern Florida would be very interesting. As they would have probably had to carve themselves out a niche from the local gangs. He is more patriotic and less pure redneck than Phil so I think he could do pretty well.

 

New Character

Now this idea I like and it is obviously highly possible. The lead character could be entirely new and represent an entirely new direction for the game. Though I would personally like them to have existing ties to the game setting, such as unmentioned but recognized subplots to the game.

 

My Idea

My idea? A Mexican-Cuban Gun Runner by the name of Diego Garcia.

His connection? He would be the brother of Pedro Garcia, a gun runner at the time of Vice City. Pedro at the time is apparently a rival of Phil Cassidy and other unmentioned gun runners. Pedro is mentioned on the VC website that I keep mentioning.

Diego Garcia, however, is not. His story would take place 3 years before the events of Vice City.

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The year is 1983, Diego Garcia has just landed at Escobar International after a court recommended stint in the military to pay off his debt to society.

 

Now his future is uncertain. His brother, Pedro, has moved from the barrios of Los Santos to their mother’s hometown in Vice. Pedro doesn’t have things together and is committing petty crimes much the same way his older brother did.

 

Diego knows that Vice is rife with crime and that anyone with ambition can make it for themselves. He knows that law abiding citizens are few and far between in this corrupt pit on the edge of the Caribbean. A man with his past could make quite a fortune and his contacts in the military could help him on his way.

 

Some of Vice’s problems are coming in by the boatload, disenfranchised refugees from war-torn nations across the Caribbean. Haitians and Cubans are detained in the cities once thriving port and even the new sporting stadium must bare the brunt of housing the innumerable amounts of refugees. The Haitians and Cubans have developed a deep hatred of one another, a hatred Diego can play off of.

 

Diego’s time in the military has given him places he can get easy guns. He starts selling guns to his mother’s family, the Robina’s. They are a proud Cuban family that is sick of their Cuban brothers coming under attack by the Haitians. Diego helps them strike out at the Haitians by firing the first shot of a long and bitter feud.

 

Now that the move is made Diego and his brother are on their way to becoming a powerful duo in the Vice City underground. He sells weapons to everyone from refugees, to Latin revolutionaries, even going as far as to help an angry little man named Ricardo Diaz get into power.

 

Unfortunately, Diego makes a lot of enemies along the way and an attempt is made on his life. A battle rages at his estate and he is forced to flee Vice while faking his own death. He leaves his brother in charge of the business as he takes his share of the cash and flies off into a golden sunset.

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I think that it will be set in 1993 and you will play as Ricardo Diaz's son trying to take back the city from Tommy.

 

There will probably be a few close encounters with Tommy's mobsters at various points of interest such as The Malibu and The Print Works.

 

I'm sure the last mission will be similar to the ending of Scarface where you finally get to murder Tommy while he is standing at the top of the stairs of his mansion.

 

Tommy's mansion in Vice is like the epicenter of the city and ignoring Tommy would just be stupid. I think R* know they have created something more than just a gangster with Tommy.

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Didn't you read Rown's Rundown. If the game took place near the 90's or in the 90's, it'd lose the 80's vibe. If it was going to take place in the 90's we wouldn't see the pink cursive of "Vice City Stories" on the box. I think I'd be interesting to see the game take place in 1989 but I strongly donn't think that'll be the case. I also think it'll take place in 1983 and if it does, Tommy Vercetti has 0% chance of him being the protagonist or even be seen in the game. Secondly, we never knew from Vice City that Diaz had a son. In GTA3, Salvatore Leone had Joey Leone as a son but Ricardo Diaz mentioned nothing about having a son, wife, or ex-wife.

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If the game passes before GTA Vice City passes, Leo Teal would be a great thing. Or Pepe, from the cubans. But actually I think he would not be.

 

If it passes after Vice City, that building fom Avery should be already finished! Because it was being built. And I think Tommy will appear in somewhere in any mission.

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No , Kent Paul And Rosenberg are pussy's, It would't fit if Rosenberg or Paul would kill everyone off and go soft when tommy vercetti arrive

 

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like i said on a different topic vcs should be set in 1989 cause it fills in the gaps like how gash change its name to zip, why phil left vice for liberty what happen to tommy(yeah i know he is the king of vice), how the sindoccos can to be and so on it just fills in the gap between vice and sa and the character could be johnny sindocco from sa and shows how the family came to be and may be you work for tommy for some missions and then you betraye him or something but in the end you don't kill him cause he is mention in sa

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What about the early 90's?

And our main character would have to be someone from either GTA3 or Vice

{Claude Speed, anyone biggrin.gif ?}, I think.

Let's also make the cars diverse, just like in real life, actual or fictional; no 5-speed Cadillacs or anything, either.

 

 

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