edisoncarter 11 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 (edited) Firmware 2.7 is the first new firmware release since CheatDevice came out. As expected, Sony has patched CheatDevice's savefile exploit. Do not upgrade to firmware 2.7 or you will be locked out from running CheatDevice and all homebrew! This is not like 2.5 or 2.6 where support eventually came when the new syscalls were figured out. This is locked out, no chance, period. Let me reiterate. 2.6 is the end of the line for CheatDevice. The GTA exploit is totally, certainly, completely and permanently closed on 2.7. Furthermore, any other exploits that the PSP homebrew community may come up with to open up homebrew again on 2.7 will NOT be usable with CheatDevice. Do not upgrade to 2.7 thinking that CheatDevice will eventually support 2.7. It won't. Edit: This also applies to 2.71 or any later version. Edited June 3, 2006 by edisoncarter Link to post Share on other sites
andrewtr89 0 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 (edited) you should check out the locoroco demo. a lot of people are saying eventually homebrew will be able to be played through it no gaurantees though Edited April 25, 2006 by andrewtr89 Link to post Share on other sites
Swish 0 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Thanks for clearing that issue up Edisoncarter. Maybe one day someone will find some flaws in the update.. Link to post Share on other sites
Rob. 7 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Nice one mate, i was discussing this with some other people yesterday, as they expected to have it on 2.7. I didn't know the technicalities of it fully but now we all do, good job on telling us, hopefully this is early enough for people not to update, so they can keep the cheatdevice. Much appreciated, thanks mate. Link to post Share on other sites
CurrentlyCarrotfoot 0 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 you should check out the locoroco demo. a lot of people are saying eventually homebrew will be able to be played through it I'm not gonna risk getting that incase it can't get hacked. I'd love to be able to download a demo of it though. Goddamn Sony! Can't blame them though, this is their business we're f*cking with. Link to post Share on other sites
The-end 4 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 You should pin this ec, will help people to notice it I woudl love to upgrade to 2.7 for the flash player, but not worth lossing the cheat device Im gonna end up having to update and so is every other gta fan because by time gtapsp2 is out they will b 3.00 f/w an it will most provbly force an update. Link to post Share on other sites
ell 0 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 the thing im worried about the most is if gta vice city stories is only compatible with version 2.7 then we would be screwed Link to post Share on other sites
ADePSP 0 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 the thing im worried about the most is if gta vice city stories is only compatible with version 2.7 then we would be screwed That's a long way off... Link to post Share on other sites
andrewtr89 0 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 the thing im worried about the most is if gta vice city stories is only compatible with version 2.7 then we would be screwed unfortunantly that is most likely what they are going to do, just like lcs made you upgrade to 2.0 just to try to patch the homebrew hole in 2.5 Link to post Share on other sites
edisoncarter 11 Posted April 25, 2006 Author Share Posted April 25, 2006 It will be a while before any games require fw 2.7. What's the highest fw version any games require right now? This patch is specific to GTA:LCS. The next GTA for PSP will surely be patched in the game itself. Even if R* wants to leave it open, Sony will require it to be fixed before they validate the game. you should check out the locoroco demo. a lot of people are saying eventually homebrew will be able to be played through itno gaurantees though Don't give people false hope. Link to post Share on other sites
andrewtr89 0 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 you should check out the locoroco demo. a lot of people are saying eventually homebrew will be able to be played through itno gaurantees though Don't give people false hope. i'm not trying to persuade people either way. i hope thats now what it sounded like. i'm just saying people are trying to find holes in the locoroco demo, no matter what firmware is out. personally i think its a simple choice, if you like flash more than homebrew upgrade. if you like homebrew more than flash, dont. Link to post Share on other sites
ell 0 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 so ec are yoyu saying this is the end for the cheat device on the the next gta Link to post Share on other sites
Nick000 0 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 so ec are yoyu saying this is the end for the cheat device on the the next gta If you can afford it, you could always buy another PSP just for new games that require FW updates, if I have to do that I will, because there is no use in GTA LCS without the cheatdevice. Link to post Share on other sites
edisoncarter 11 Posted April 25, 2006 Author Share Posted April 25, 2006 so ec are yoyu saying this is the end for the cheat device on the the next gta It's too soon to know, but the chances are pretty slim for the next gta. They'll probably be able to emulate every firmware version from now on with stuff like RunUMD. A firmware emulator could insert a cheat device. You'd need 1.5 or downgrade from 2.0. Link to post Share on other sites
ell 0 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 DAMN!!! ahwell just so you know, your cheat device put the GRAND back in grand theft auto thank you ec Link to post Share on other sites
nickwarr_182 0 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 I'm sending those assholes hatemail. Stupid Sone, no wonder they didn't look cool to me until the PSP. They take the fun out of everything. seriously, the only reason peoples PSP stopped working was because they made the updates more secure, and now, they have f*cked over their own product. I know there arew people who use the PSP for movie and music only and barely ever use games, but there are way more who use it for gaming. Sony's taking the main part of the PSP away from us. Link to post Share on other sites
CurrentlyCarrotfoot 0 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Ahh, stop being a cry baby. Don't upgrade, easy as that. I quote, from me, responding to someone who decided that homebrew was in fact helping Sony: Well think of it from this way guys. We're f*cking with Sony's business here. I for one have not bought a PSP game since GTA:LCS, due to homebrew. How does that in anyway help Sony? Of course, I'd rather they embraced homebrew and let us run amock with their systems, but it ain't gonna happen. Sony is a multinational Corporation, with clever smart people managing the business. You think a bunch of 12-year-olds can run the business better? Aha. Link to post Share on other sites
nickwarr_182 0 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Ahh, stop being a cry baby. Don't upgrade, easy as that. I quote, from me, responding to someone who decided that homebrew was in fact helping Sony: Well think of it from this way guys. We're f*cking with Sony's business here. I for one have not bought a PSP game since GTA:LCS, due to homebrew. How does that in anyway help Sony? Of course, I'd rather they embraced homebrew and let us run amock with their systems, but it ain't gonna happen. Sony is a multinational Corporation, with clever smart people managing the business. You think a bunch of 12-year-olds can run the business better? Aha. Yes. I for one, do. Link to post Share on other sites
Swish 0 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 so ec are yoyu saying this is the end for the cheat device on the the next gta If you can afford it, you could always buy another PSP just for new games that require FW updates, if I have to do that I will, because there is no use in GTA LCS without the cheatdevice. You are one dedicated GTA fan. I might be able to get another one, if I beg to my mom. Link to post Share on other sites
CurrentlyCarrotfoot 0 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Ahh, stop being a cry baby. Don't upgrade, easy as that. I quote, from me, responding to someone who decided that homebrew was in fact helping Sony: Well think of it from this way guys. We're f*cking with Sony's business here. I for one have not bought a PSP game since GTA:LCS, due to homebrew. How does that in anyway help Sony? Of course, I'd rather they embraced homebrew and let us run amock with their systems, but it ain't gonna happen. Sony is a multinational Corporation, with clever smart people managing the business. You think a bunch of 12-year-olds can run the business better? Aha. Yes. I for one, do. Fair enough. Okay, why? Link to post Share on other sites
nickwarr_182 0 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Because the "adults" at Aony obnviously don't know what's good for them and what's not, if it were me, I would simply update the PSP so you could use it to play games and homebrew, as well as what they're putting into it without the homebrew killing. Those guys are constantly losing gamersbecause of this. Surely kids would need some help from an adult every every so often, but they do now too, and that's what they're not looking for. It's like looking for a needle in the wrong pile of hay. Link to post Share on other sites
_Jammie_ 0 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 I won't be upgrading. Thats for sure >.> The only thing that keeps me at 2.0 is the Cheat Device. I will never upgrade Link to post Share on other sites
kingvercetti 24 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Hmmmmm. Sony are soon gonna have to start relying on idiots. Well, it depends on what people like. I mean lets face it. The current line of PSP games is quite poor at best. To be honest out of all the games out I've only found maybe 5 that I like/want to play. Now I may be the only person like that, but I know there are TONS of people that stay on 1.0/1.5 because homebrew is free and high quality, and ignore retail games. So with these updates they're forcing on us, depending on the will-power of people, Sony may see a big drop in sales. It depends how much we love CheatDevice/eLoader. Link to post Share on other sites
PyroHazard 0 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Leave it to Sony to have phobias against homebrew games and apps which don't affect their business at all. Ah well, the PS2 version of LCS is coming out and hopefully we will get some good cheats out of that (except maybe the more complex codes like CheatMaker and Construction Mode.) Link to post Share on other sites
ADePSP 0 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Hmmmmm. Sony are soon gonna have to start relying on idiots. Well, it depends on what people like. I mean lets face it. The current line of PSP games is quite poor at best. To be honest out of all the games out I've only found maybe 5 that I like/want to play. Now I may be the only person like that, but I know there are TONS of people that stay on 1.0/1.5 because homebrew is free and high quality, and ignore retail games. So with these updates they're forcing on us, depending on the will-power of people, Sony may see a big drop in sales. It depends how much we love CheatDevice/eLoader. Unfortunatly Sony will win because who on this website will not upgrade to whatever firmware they say if it's required to play the next PSP GTA game... I will... LCS is the only reason i've got one anyway... If Sony say I have to dress up like a Donkey for a week in order to have a copy of the next game then I'll just have to grin a bare it... The only reason most of us are here is because we love Grand Theft Auto (and messing with it )... Anyone who thinks 2.7 is a good idea really has no place posting here... This thread of these forums has nothing to do with playing stupid Flash games does it...? Link to post Share on other sites
kingvercetti 24 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 I always wonder if Sony will ever release a system where a developer pays around £250 to get there hombrew game signed. That would work pretty well, besides the fact that some people would charge for the game to make up the cost. Link to post Share on other sites
Basti 7 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 I always wonder if Sony will ever release a system where a developer pays around £250 to get there hombrew game signed. That would work pretty well, besides the fact that some people would charge for the game to make up the cost. Well, you might won't believe it, but there's actually a system, that allows you to run homebrew, games and other "illegal" stuff, even if you have to pay three times more than 250$... http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP....&Dept=computers One question: What is so dangerous about the cheat device? Can you run iso files? No. Can you run manipulatet eboot.pbp files? No. Can you run homebrew with it? No. So why is Sony so scared, that anything illegal could happen? Why isn't Sony just once in a lifetime fair to their customers, and gives them a chance to have more fun with a Sony product, than they thought we would have? Instead of beeing happy about the things that are possible with their Playstation they think at once, that maybe someone could run ROMs or anything else. Raaah! You stupid Sony Link to post Share on other sites
Waterbottle 0 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 One question: What is so dangerous about the cheat device? Can you run iso files? No. Can you run manipulatet eboot.pbp files? No. Can you run homebrew with it? No. sony can't block the eloader without blocking the cheatdevice also Link to post Share on other sites
bbllplaya1111 0 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 but whasts the point of sealing security holes? N one except someone with high programming skills would notice the difference. it also takes the fun out of a game for modderts i really dont underastand it. Link to post Share on other sites
Drumbum1234 0 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 they seald the hole because homebrew in the save game exploit... not to make cheat device users mad..... Link to post Share on other sites