games are all messed up

[matthew1g]

well SA comes up with patterns like these:

 

Also after a random amount of minutes (usually 45min-1 hour) the game crashes or the pc restarts to tell me that I got an error with GTA:SA

 

 

Crashday takes 1 freaking hour to load then after about 4 hours running in the same track, same car ( I'm afraid to wait that long again) I get an error with some sort of words. I'll try to take a screeny

 

NFs:mw returns to the desktop with a different error.

 

I think I know what's wrong though. I can't install new drivers for a strange reason. I get:

 

 

this driver did not pass the windows logo test.

 

yet I'm downloading the right drivers ( same choices like with the 4420MX) Look:

 

 

How can I fix this? I really want to play some games on it

 

 

SPECS:

intel P4 1.7ghz

512MB ram ddr-SDram

geforce FX5500 256MB

albatron PX848 like series mobo

win XP with SP2

[just another thug]

Tell us what the exact error is with NFS.

 

It looks like artifacts (somewhat). Are you overclocking this card?

[Wolf68k]

With SA did yuo delete the \My Documents\GTA San Andreas User Files\gta_sa.set file?

 

As strange as it might sound, but get DriverCleaner.

1. Device Manager; select the card and right-click on it and select Uninstall

2. Restart in Safe Mode

3. Ignore the "Add New Hardware" wizard, just click Cancel

4. Run DriverCleaner; Cleaning Selection selecct nVidia, click Start

5. Now install the new drivers

6. The drivers will want to restart the system so do so and let it go back to normal mode

7. Test games and report back

[matthew1g]

I never deleted anything from that section of SA. I think the .EXE or something got messed up, I can't access the advanced settings in graphics.

 

 

Tell us what the exact error is with NFS.

 

It looks like artifacts (somewhat). Are you overclocking this card?

 

Yes I am overclocking the card, but not beyond it's limits just a tad faster than the default.

 

be right back with pics from MW

 

 

[Demarest]

If you're running your hardware out of spec, then you forfeit your right to question when things go wrong.

 

Do what wolf told you to.

[Wolf68k]

You've just got the card and the first thing you do is OC it?

How do you automattically know what the limits are?

Every card is different, even from the same maker. I've got a eVGA 6800GS AGP, I can unlock the extra pixle pipelines and vertex shader, and yet there are others that can't.

I know of a guy with the same card that not unlock it but also OC it further than I can.

 

Artifacts means the card is beyond limits or that it's dangerously hot.

 

 

Now take it from someone that has done a lot of benchmarking in my years in the PC world, and with a card that I could OC pretty well up from stock speeds.

OCing the CPU then in games and programs that will really use the CPU (like encoding audio or video), you will see a difference. Synthic benchmark programs will show an extremely huge increase in performance over stock, while the real world will show and increase but not as much as the synthics will.

 

OCing video cards the real world performance is even less improved.

Stock my card's speeds are 350/1000. I can easily OC it with the stock cooler to 400/1100 and still have room to move it up if I wanted to.

3DMark 03 stock score: 9650-9700

OC scores: ~10300

Monster improvement right?

BF2 stock: 38FPS

BF2 OCed: 39FPS

1FPS improvement isn't worth bragging about. The BF2 benchmark was run using the a custom demo file that I created while playing solo map Strike At Karkand with the 64bot mod...not the greatest or "Pro reviews" demo in the world but it works for me to prove my point...the demo that the "Pros" use is only for the BF2 Demo which I'm not about to reinstall just for their benchmarking also because so much has changed in the full since then to help improve performance.

Other game benchmarks showed the same little performance increase.

 

Oh I've read tons of pro reviews of various cards, I always do before buying a product of high importance, and the OC increase varies from game to game but in most cases the highest increase for any game is around 5FPS, which to me still isn't worth bragging about.

 

All OCing really does, is shorten the life of the card. Creating more headaches with games coming in a close second, the proof of that should be in the fact you're having problems now. Lastly is increased gaming performance.

 

 

Since you're using a nVidia card you can get RivaTuner, if you're not already using it to OC, and go through a bunch of steps to make it so that when the card gets to a set temp it'll increase the fan speed, then to another temp turn the fan to 100% speed (the card stock don't run at full speed, completely normal). This does however only work if your card has a temp sensor.

Other wise you'll just have to set it at 100% full time.

[matthew1g]

 

You've just got the card and the first thing you do is OC it?

How do you automattically know what the limits are?

 

does this answer your question:

 

 

It's a tool called EXPERtool It came on the CD shipped with the graphics card, so I'm safe I guess. It's a gainward card If you need to know

 

about the pic, the error didn't came up this time

 

:REPORT:

Did all those steps you told me earlier but nothing changed, I got the same error again, I clicked on continue installation (hope I didn't mess it up)

 

AS for artifacting, do the graphics render in a strange way? because when I had the 4420 MX models would appear as blocks when I went overboard with OC'ing.

 

How exactly do I know?

 

anyway here's a pic of how MW appears with OC'ing:

 

I did see a difference in the FPS, it went from 20 to 26 which I think is good conisidering I'm used to play with 15-20 max in SA it went up from an average o f 14fps to around 18-22 fps Crashday stood at a constant 20 when racing alone and 10 when playing against other cars

 

:another edit:

crashday error:

 

colours look wierd in that game, probably because of the driver error

Edited April 17, 2006 by matthew1g

[matthew1g]

Sorry for double post. I got this error now when I was playing MW.

 

error summary

[Sixdust]

The overclocking program doesnt mean anything. You can have hundreds of the programs, and still be using them wrong. Most manufacturers already have their cards OC'ed before it arrives in the store. And did you bench your card? Just because it gives you options to overclock to a high number, doesnt mean you can. Set the card to stock settings and then try.

[Wolf68k]

Ok first never trust any OC tool that comes with the video card.

If you're going to OC do it the right way, with RivaTuner or Coolbits but not both

Then you only OC the Performance 3D settings...there is 2D, 3D and Performance 3D

 

Now then that tool more than likely can show the the max that card should be able to get to, that doesn't mean it can safely get up that high.

 

Clock the card back down to stock and run your games to see if the artifacts are still there. Then If you're head strong on OCing, then GET RIVATUNER

 

I'm not saying this is a completely trustworhty tool to use but ATITool version 0.25 Beta 14 supports nVidia cards (scroll down to the bottom of the page) and has an artifact tool. If you see a bunch of little spots it'll warn you by stopping for a sec and a beep. Let the artifact tool run for a while to heat up your card.

The tool can also OCing the card but remember ONLY THE Performance 3D.

[matthew1g]

Ok I'll do that, but what about the Driver problem?

[Rocketkiller]

Windows Xp logo testing is useless, if you know the driver's from a trustworthy source, and for the right OS use it. For example, the nvidia beta drivers don't pass logo testing, but they work perfectly.

[Wolf68k]

Unless your playing Oblivian (however you spell it and I don't care anyway) then DO NOT usre the latest official beta drivers, 84.25. Use the official public drivers, 84.21.