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Danshi

Kifflom? Mystery . . .

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DaSanAnThug

 

Yes, I know the moviment is from atm machines, have most of this locals in game??What about...a bottle?With an epsilon?Have one of this in the bar next to CJ house?I will check.

err... no.

 

you cant buy drinks in any bar.

it´s just that the Rockstar staff member who

made the epsilon site was most likely drinking that

wine and saw the logo and thought "whattehelll ill uuuse thhhiss.."

 

i mean what are the odds of the El Tiempo being a clue?

 

 

I found that bottle by an accident... (a huuuge WTF moment)

so if it would be a clue and i would have not found that

none of you would know about the bottle and therefore

making it impossible to solve this.

 

get it?

 

 

anyway.. heres a pic of the bottle cap. (insert wow.gif GASP wow.gif here)

user posted image

 

and the whole bottle showing the bull. (more GASPS)

user posted image

 

SORRY!!! I KNOW THEY´RE WAY TOO BIG blush.gif

 

also..

 

i listened every line from the epsilon ped and this is what i got:

 

if you bumb into him he will say these following lines:

-mind out

-kifflom

-look out brother-uncle

-are you looking for spirirual answers?

-do you need spiritual guidance?

-can i intrest you into some religion?

-carefull

-carefull brother-uncle

 

then i recruited him with the recruit anyone cheat, used reduced traffic cheat so that

i would only hear HIS lines and the faster gameplay cheat twice so that i wouldnt have to

wait so long. and no he does not become a chipmunk. even thoungh the game is faster everyone talks in the

normal speed. so these are the lines that he said:

 

-kifflom and krant, sir!

-kifflom brother-uncle

-kifflom be praised

 

then i .. err "unrecruited" him and then just followed him and listened what he said:

 

-the epsilon program is a great way to live.

-partner sharing is an intruble (←possibly not the right way to spell it)

part of chris´s vision

-the world is beautifull and so new

-before i read the trackt i was lost

-i havent spoken to my parents since i joined the fellowship

-have you ever seen a sperm? it´s a lie

-i lie with 9 of my sister-aunts every week

-dinosaurs are a lie.. fact!

-chris formage saved my life

 

then i knowdessed that when i killed someone, the epsilon ped ran to the dead body and

said something. so a killed alot of people and listened what he had to say:

 

-ohh dear kifflom!

-they should have read the epsilon trackt

-epsilonism doesnt allow this

-kifflom no!

-please no! ←that one may have been smeone else. not sure

 

so.. heres another essay biggrin.gif

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Caixa

What a fuc* you posted a fu**ing great image, dozingoff.gif

Oh, I've heard about this bottle... cookie.gifcookie.gif for you.

 

---

 

Yeah, I recruit a member with the cheat, I listen some of this lines.

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DaSanAnThug

 

What a fuc* you posted a fu**ing great image,  dozingoff.gif

Oh, I've hearde about this bottle... cookie.gif  cookie.gif for you.

yummy!

 

no wait! was that sarcasm!? mad.gif

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Caixa

No, I just say thats cool the image, I never see the bottle.You make a great discovery, cookie.gifcookie.gif are congratulations... I am hungry, not thinking right, my english are bad

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DaSanAnThug

ok.

 

and now i made myself my very first signarure of it

 

BTW.. i just realised that the last 8 posts have been made by you and me.

lets wait a day and listen to what the others have to say about my pic ph34r.gif

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Scary Man

 

EDIT: Ohh! now i know what place you meant scary man. isnt it the one that has a sanchez

spawning in the yard of a house right next to the one you ment?

Yes that is exactly where i'm talking about. And the marker is there. It's very faint so it's easy to miss but look right where the sadler spawns on the in game map. You should see a pale white "spot". LOOK CLOSELY and you'll see it. It's completely unique, there aren't any other markers like it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

And also in regards to the bull logo, it looks just like the two on top of the restaurants that i mentioned in my earlier post.

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Hey, I found a Red Sadler without damage in the mission Are you going to San Fierro? Next to Truth

Farm...red truck!

 

 

------------

 

 

Hey I found the location called Fallen Tree...what about this place  and the houses near of it?

If You look closely on the map right were the windmill is there's a marker on the side of the road. It's the only one like it in the game and also a sadler spawns there.

Damn ! Can't find the Marker.

Is that place is on the Farm on Mission "Body harvest" ?

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DaSanAnThug

 

scary dude. i went there. no markers

and the bull doesnt look like the one in the desert.

the steak house bull is brown and fat.

the bottle bullis black and not fat

 

EDIT:

i dont think this is a clue but you do so

lets try if we cann make anything out of this.

so i tried to get some anagrams out of el tiempo...

I GOT 142!!! just googled anagram and clicked the first and tried. results:

 

Elite Mop

Omelet Pi

Peel Omit

Emote Lip

Lei Tempo

Lie Tempo

Mile Poet

Lime Poet

Impel Toe

Polite Em

Polite Me

Pile Mote

Pile Tome

Lite Poem

Lite Mope

Tile Poem

Tile Mope

Tempi Ole

Emit Lope

Emit Pole

Time Lope

Time Pole

Item Lope

Item Pole

Mite Lope

Mite Pole

Pie Motel

Eel Mi Opt

Eel Mi Pot

Eel Mi Top

Eel Imp To

Eel Pi Mot

Eel Pi Tom

Eel Pit Om

Eel Tip Om

Eel It Mop

Eel Ti Mop

Lee Mi Opt

Lee Mi Pot

Lee Mi Top

Lee Imp To

Lee Pi Mot

Lee Pi Tom

Lee Pit Om

Lee Tip Om

Lee It Mop

Lee Ti Mop

Peel I Mot

Peel I Tom

Peel Mi To

Peel It Om

Peel Ti Om

Teem I Pol

Teem I Lop

Teem Pi Lo

Meet I Pol

Meet I Lop

Meet Pi Lo

Mete I Pol

Mete I Lop

Mete Pi Lo

Pee I Molt

Pee Mil To

Pee Lit Om

Pee Mi Lot

Tee Mil Op

Tee Lip Om

Tee Mi Pol

Tee Mi Lop

Tee Imp Lo

Lei Em Opt

Lei Em Pot

Lei Em Top

Lei Me Opt

Lei Me Pot

Lei Me Top

Lei Met Op

Lei Pet Om

Lie Em Opt

Lie Em Pot

Lie Em Top

Lie Me Opt

Lie Me Pot

Lie Me Top

Lie Met Op

Lie Pet Om

Pile Em To

Pile Me To

Lite Em Op

Lite Me Op

Tile Em Op

Tile Me Op

Pie Elm To

Pie Let Om

Pie Em Lot

Pie Me Lot

Pie Met Lo

Tie Elm Op

Tie Em Pol

Tie Em Lop

Tie Me Pol

Tie Me Lop

Elm Ope It

Elm Ope Ti

Elm Poet I

Elm Toe Pi

Mole Pet I

Melt Ope I

Ole Em Pit

Ole Em Tip

Ole Me Pit

Ole Me Tip

Ole Temp I

Ole Met Pi

Ole Pet Mi

Lope Em It

Lope Em Ti

Lope Me It

Lope Me Ti

Lope Met I

Pole Em It

Pole Em Ti

Pole Me It

Pole Me Ti

Pole Met I

Tole Em Pi

Tole Me Pi

Let Em Poi

Let Me Poi

Let Poem I

Let Mope I

Let Ope Mi

Em Ope Lit

Em Toe Lip

Em Pet Oil

Me Ope Lit

Me Toe Lip

Me Pet Oil

Let Em I Op

 

ones that might make sence:

 

Pie Motel=a place?

Meet Pi Lo= meet someone named Pi Lo, maybe in Chinatown

Lie Me Top=just sexual biggrin.gif

 

can you find anything that would be a clue..ish

 

 

and btw Osiris Knight did you read all the other posts because i couldnt find a GASP in your post monocle.gif

 

 

And also in regards to the bull logo, it looks just like the two on top of the restaurants that i mentioned in my earlier post.

where is this OTHER bull?

 

EDITEDITEDIT::: it would be very rare if you would see a SHORT post from me smile.gif

 

i fought the backpacker.. yes fought. i have never got him to fight me before.

he always just ran away. now he fought me. and i wrote down all his battlecalls or whatever they are:

 

fighting is for the weak

 

you want to join our fellowship?

 

have you heard of the epsilon program

 

you should read some literature (you know books and stuff. maybe not spelled right.)

 

kifflom! krant! help!

 

i bring a message of peace

 

you´re being foolish

 

kifflom brother-uncle (this time with an angry voice)

 

P.S. what does one of the callers on entertaining america say

when chis formage is interviewed?

 

"---------- had it made. they dragged theyre wimen by their hair..."

 

who had it made?

 

this is important because i heard the wrestling ad propably on K-DST:

"--------- who drags his woman by her hair.."

 

again who dragged his woman by her hair?

 

there is clearly a connection between these.

Edited by DaSanAnThug

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Scary Man
scary dude. i went there. no markers

and the bull doesnt look like the one in the desert.

the steak house bull is brown and fat.

the bottle bullis black and not fat

 

 

 

 

And also in regards to the bull logo, it looks just like the two on top of the restaurants that i mentioned in my earlier post.

where is this OTHER bull?

I'll take a picture of the marker and post it up.

 

And as for the bull read my first post on page 4. There is a barn shaped building in fort carson with another bull on top. And both the restaurant and this barn have a sprunk dispenser outside. Coincidence?

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DaSanAnThug

what about the "hair dragger" on the radio?

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Caixa

Yes, a SS will be good.What about the bulls? I made a mod...I will post a SS.

 

----

 

6 page yeah devil.gif , SS:

 

user posted image

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DaSanAnThug
Yes, a SS will be good.What about the bulls? I made a mod...I will post a SS.

what SS?

 

yes page 6 tounge2.gif

read some of the posts on the 1st page.

quite hilarious:

"kifflom will get out of the car and give you a blindfold" biggrin.gif

 

P.S. nice mod icon14.gif

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Caixa

 

Yes, a SS will be good.What about the bulls? I made a mod...I will post a SS.

what SS?

 

yes page 6 tounge2.gif

read some of the posts on the 1st page.

quite hilarious:

"kifflom will get out of the car and give you a blindfold" biggrin.gif

 

P.S. nice mod icon14.gif

Of the mark next a windmill...someone say will post.

Kiffon out of a car? 4AM séries...I will read the 1st again.

 

EDIT

 

Oh, you're in first page, I find the house yesterday, I checked and the name of house in game archives is blues house ...today I will check the scripts from script.img, maybe I found something.

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DaSanAnThug

OMG! i just realized that the legendary 4am Series is fake.

 

look at the first picture. you can see the hud.

 

now look at all the other pictures. no hud.

 

he most likely turned the hud off so that no one could see the TWO huds

that you get while playing a 2 player freeroam.

 

if the first picture would not have shown the hud this could have been easyly

explained: the camera was in a bad position and the hud was simply out of the frame.

 

BUSTED!!!

 

 

 

 

but i DO think there might be something Epsilon related in that building since it is almost in

the middle of the desert and not a single mission take place in there.

 

so.. why is it there?

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Lioshenka
This is old well-known fact that Epsilon people hang out in Verdant Meadows area.

Verdant Meadows is the desert airport area...and that people in that place only in that hour and doing that moves

I never see here...

Crap, I meant Verdant Bluffs

 

 

 

 

i listened every line from the epsilon ped and this is what i got:

 

he's got tons more, if you open sounds bank with SAAM. They are all very similar though.

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OMG! i just realized that the legendary 4am Series is fake.

 

look at the first picture. you can see the hud.

 

now look at all the other pictures. no hud.

 

he most likely turned the hud off so that no one could see the TWO huds

that you get while playing a 2 player freeroam.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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DaSanAnThug

 

i listened every line from the epsilon ped and this is what i got:

 

he's got tons more, if you open sounds bank with SAAM. They are all very similar though.

i have ps2 so i cant do that sad.gif

 

unles its like SAM? is in on the internet or did

you mean searching the.. sound..files from the san andreas file?

 

eh?

 

 

edit: everyone! read every single post on the page 5 so that you will keep up with us.

ecxpesially the anagram thing.

its nonsence but interesting nonsence biggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifsuicidal.gif

 

and WHO is the hair dragger!? answaaaahh!

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Caixa

Its really fake the 4AM.

I think that building in the desert is a big souvenir store, of the big cock.

I cant open the scripts of script.img with sanny editor.

On the site myepsilon.com (somewhere in this topic have a link) have a information about a man, he says something he was taken by aliens.The guy whit a black cap. I try to find hin in the area of cop girlfriend or the big ear.

 

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DaSanAnThug

i send an e-mail to the myepsilon guy.

i told him about the bottle and the house in the hills so he could add them to myepsilon.com .. or .org

EDIT: now everyone who is reading this..

answer these questions:

 

what do YOU think about the "cult photo" in madd dogs house (page 4)

 

listen to

at 1:17 he says "---" had it made.

who had it made? it important because i heard this.

at 0:58 he says "the caveman who drags his woman by her hair"

there is clearly a connection.

and BTW why does Lazlow say "im not an egg" BEFORE chris says anything

about eggs??

 

what do you think of my El Tiempo anagram nonsence. do we need to meet Pi Lo or go to Pie Motel?

 

answer all of these or you are a bad person sad.gif

 

 

+ i found this cool program that makes you able to listen EVERY SINGLE THING from the radio.

commercials, songs, random retardation. but you can only use it if you have SA on PS2. like me!

the radio is FULL of epsilon stuff. like the Entertaining America #1. the guy before Lazlow..

he was a cult member. but he got shot during the interview with some movie star.

 

if you have SA on PS2. download the program from here!

it only takes about 10 seconds to install. oh and you need a dvd.. er thingy on your computer.

the one where the cd´s go wont play the SA disk.

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Scary Man

He says that hunter gatherer dudes dragged their women by their hair. Hunter Gatherers are pretty much the same thing as cavemen. orly.gif

 

 

How about making women out of garbage? Garbage truck?

 

And there are also several references to movies/tv. Maybe there are clues at the movie studio in vinewoo.

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Mattsano

Sweet PS2 radio ripper, here have a cookie.gif

 

Moving on swiftly, anyone know if any official San Andreas e-mail addresses that are functioning? I tried the official cult site some way back in the thread, and it never reached its destination. We are searching a lot and gaining very little to see if there is anything to this - and I think mass e-mailing (not spamming, just annoying R*) R* may get us some clues or confirmations.

 

Also, any people out there know of any programs that help extract and read PS2 San Andreas files (All of them, not just music) tell me, as I think no-one has so far looked at these in the thread - an XBox one would be great too, but I would have to get the disc first.

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DaSanAnThug

 

Sweet PS2 radio ripper, here have a  cookie.gif

damn! biggrin.gif another!

soon i will have enough to sell them

 

BTW you didnt answer why do you think Lazlow said "im not an egg"

BEFORE Formage said anything about eggs. mercie_blink.gifmercie_blink.gifmercie_blink.gif

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_-=Zombie=-_

u mean lazlo in SA ?

i didnt even knew there was lazlo in SA, i thought he was in LC...

R* might want him to say that before Formage to be funny or something...

 

anyway have another cookie for all the good work u have done cookie.gif

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Scary Man

Ok so sanan thug, I checked out my friend's ps2 version of SA and on the game he just started there is no marker near fallen tree and there's no sadler that spawns there. So this could be something. I'll check a new game on my xbox when i get home later. But it's possible that I've triggered something in my game to begin the epsilon program.

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DaSanAnThug
Ok so sanan thug, I checked out my friend's ps2 version of SA and on the game he just started there is no marker near fallen tree and there's no sadler that spawns there. So this could be something. I'll check a new game on my xbox when i get home later. But it's possible that I've triggered something in my game to begin the epsilon program.

ok.. you are actually starting to sound interesting.

but you said that you would post a pic of the marker.

i´d like to see it.

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_-=Zombie=-_

ok guyz, here is another great found.

 

you may already know that but Epsilon program is real. its a Greek cult with members

all around the world.

 

thats their sign:

user posted image

 

does this reminds you something??

maybe this:

user posted image

 

comments please tounge2.gif

 

 

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yes there is something strange about these billboards. the logo looks like logo of Epsilon Team. more info about Epsilon Team is here

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epsilon_Teamhttp://theyear2012.blogspot.com/2005/04/epsilonism.html

 

 

But why is the word RAMPAGE used on the billboard? Rampage means literally violently angry and destructive behavior. Rampage is also a movie /about serial killer/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rampage_(film)

and a car/pickup truck - dodge rampage. it looks like Picador from SA.

 

user posted image

 

user posted image

 

 

There is also other similar billboard. look what is written udner the Eris logo

 

user posted image

 

There is "Bring chaos to your feet". it looks normal... but if you take another look at the Eris logo, notice that it consists of letter epsilon /the fifth letter of the Greek alphabet/ and word Eris. Who or what si Eris? The answer is here

 

 

http://www.geocities.com/tribhis/Eris.htmlhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eris_(mythology)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eris_(dwarf_planet)

 

 

Eris is the goddess of confusion, chaos and laughter. What is the "EPSILON ERIS" logo telling us? That the Epsilon cult was there only to "bring chaos and confusion" to players? Was it only a joke from R* that should keep us playing SA until the new gta was released? maybe...

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_-=Zombie=-_

Eris is suposed to be a clothes brand in SA.

but i dont think that it has to do with chaos. epsilon team is suposed to be a peaceful religion.

anyway in real world epsilon is not a religion but it has to do something with the religion.

 

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DaSanAnThug

 

But why is the word RAMPAGE used on the billboard? Rampage means literally violently angry and destructive behavior. Rampage is also a movie /about serial killer/  dodge rampage. it looks like Picador from SA.

 

There is "Bring chaos to your feet".  it looks normal... but if you take another look at the Eris logo, notice that it consists of letter epsilon /the fifth letter of the Greek alphabet/ and word Eris. Who or what si Eris? The answer is here

 

Eris is the goddess of confusion, chaos and laughter. What is the "EPSILON ERIS" logo telling us? That the Epsilon cult was there only to "bring chaos and confusion" to players? Was it only a joke from R* that should keep us playing SA until the new gta was released? maybe...

 

i think you´re on to something!

 

Questions:

1. Is Eris a greeck goddes?

 

2. did you ment to write slaughter instead of laughter? it would fit better with chaos and confusion

laughter = lol.gif

slaughter = suicidal.gif

 

3. do you think that Ryders picador is red? or is it brown? it looks kinda red..ish

 

scenario: you´re a game maker. you and your co-workers have decided to put a mysterious cult in the game.

you´ve also decided to make a puzzle/mystery/tresure hunt in the game to reveal the cult as a bonus feature.

wouldnt you make it the most diffucult, longest and best treasure hunt of all?

 

i would.

 

i think that they expected us to do some back ground check.

find information about these things.

 

they expect us to find out that the epsilon program is in the real world too.

 

they expect us to find theire logo.

 

they expect us to see the Eris billboard and knowdess the similarity.

 

they expect us to see the word "rampage"

 

they expect us to go and find info about "rampage"

 

they expect us to see the car they used as a model for Picador.

 

and... well.. could this be the truck?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

EDITINGEDITEDEDITION: i went to the eris sign close to the east los santos hospital.

then i saw a red picador.

my thoughts:

"look at that! what a coinsidence!"

 

"thats exactly the kind of car we were talking about on the GTA Forums"

 

"(looking at the clock) 5 am.. thats kinda like a dawn.. mercie_blink.gif "

 

"red truck.. dawn.. at the Eris sign.. arg"

 

(chasing the car) "no! it vanished already"

 

"dammit!! angry.gif "

 

so then i went stunting. i was in the skate park with my NRG-500 when i looked at the clock.

1 am. i decided to go to the same point iwas when i saw the red picador.

 

exactly 4:00 am. a red picador appears next to me and stops.. mercie_blink.gifmercie_blink.gifmercie_blink.gifmercie_blink.gifph34r.gif

 

(a grand theft auto happends)

 

 

and now i have the red picador. my PS2 is on and i pressed start.

 

where should i go?

 

to the epsilon ped?

to the cult farm?

 

suggestions..

 

EDIT:

 

i took it to verdant bluffs to see the epsilon ped. he didnt pay any attention to it.

so i recruited him so that i wouldnt be travelling alone on my up and coming road trip.

 

then i took the truck and the ped to the "blues house" in the vinewood hills. nothing.

 

then i drove to the Cult Farm. again.. nothing.

 

 

...crap

Edited by DaSanAnThug

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Hey, some progress!What happen?A picador appear at 4am next to you in LS skatepark?

Someone can ansewer a question? In the highway next to Cj house appears saddlers? Here some

of this car are spawning .

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