Mainland Marauder Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 I know this is a mission that gives people problems, so here's a tip you might try if you're having problems and/or you just want to get through the mission more quickly than following Freddy all the way to the basketball courts. You don't have to take Loc with you on the bike. After Freddy takes off, you can get off the bike and leave Loc behind. Or if you fall or crash, get back on and leave him behind. This seems to help you go faster (lean forward) and you can kill Freddy easily before he gets to his destination with forward drive-by. Try picking up the MP5 at Unity Station after loading up on TEC-9/Micro-Uzi ammo before going to Smoke's house for the mission. I did this the other day, killing him on the freeway. Funny thing is, the cutscene goes to the basketball courts in East Los Santos where the chase normally ends, but when it's over you go back to wherever you killed Freddy. Also, since I was on the freeway over Downtown, it spawned Loc on the ground level behind the Inside Track Betting shop. "You tell me exactly what you want, and I'll explain to you very carefully why it cannot be." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillies Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 That's a good tip. Something else useful about killing him on the freeway is that because most (all?) of the traffic on the overpass is rigged for that mission it usually stops dead so you can easily jack a vehicle after the cutscene which makes your bike disappear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainland Marauder Posted February 25, 2006 Author Share Posted February 25, 2006 Yeah, after the cutscene at the courts, CJ mysteriously warps right back to where you killed Freddy. Any cars or bikes on the freeway will be stopped. You do still have to pick up Loc, wherever he is (apparently wherever you are, just at street level) and take him to the Verona Beach Burger Shot to finish the mission. "You tell me exactly what you want, and I'll explain to you very carefully why it cannot be." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnR-NoD Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 that is a good idea weare were you 6 months ago.. man that imssion tooked me like 10 times after that it was half and half to catch him but alwasys i saved bullets for the course and with about say 40 you kill the m all before you are les then 10 feet away from the action all this as you get there with the bike PD:a friend of mine who won it ( even if he sucks ) did it the 2nd trie he had a hand for those tipe of missions i thought tha if you loose og you lose the mission... for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainland Marauder Posted February 26, 2006 Author Share Posted February 26, 2006 I always thought you'd fail if you lost Loc, too. That's why when I was first playing through, I'd fail because I'd fall often and lose Freddy because I'd be waiting for Loc to get back on the bike with CJ. Well this playthrough I'd hit a car to get thrown off the bike, and I decided to leave him behind to see what would happen. So I kinda found this on accident, but that's how a lot of stuff in GTA gets found Loc shoots about as well as he raps, so definitely nothing lost by leaving him. "You tell me exactly what you want, and I'll explain to you very carefully why it cannot be." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick000 Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 Thats a really good way because I did have trouble with that mission. I wonder if he stops enough where you could plant a satchel charge on him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainland Marauder Posted February 26, 2006 Author Share Posted February 26, 2006 You're the man if you can even try that, Nick. I had trouble even trying to connect with a heat-seeking RPG on him. But this method works well enough and you don't need explosives or heavy weapons. Just (preferably) the MP5 and a good amount of ammo - a TEC-9 or Micro-Uzi will work but will take longer - will suffice. Don't worry if you don't have much skill yet with the MP5, because it doesn't seem to matter when firing it aboard a car or bike. Then it's a matter of being able to keep close enough to hit him while keeping the bike at a steady speed behind him and avoiding cars or any other obstacles. Remember as you turn onto the freeway that Freddy takes you against the flow of traffic. Don't hit an oncoming car, or you might fly off the freeway onto the ground with your bike above you, inaccessible, as Freddy speeds away. That sucks, and that hurts, too. Freddy does slow down and stop from time to time, but speeds off again as you approach. It's likely to be on the straightaway in Las Colinas or the freeway when you finally get enough rounds in Freddy to kill him. You only fail the mission if Freddy gets away, your bike blows up or if Loc dies. Nothing will happen to him if you just leave him in the Vagos hood, so you're cool. "You tell me exactly what you want, and I'll explain to you very carefully why it cannot be." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick000 Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 I had hitman on the MP5 and a sh*tload of ammo, while doing this my like 5th time around. The only reason I thought of the satchel charge thing is because I was replaying the game and playing "High Noon". While Pulaski was stuck behind the sign the beggining of the chase, I placed a charge on him. I eventually lost him (it was dark) than I thought to myself Oh sh*t I have a charge on him. Well I just blew him to smitherines. This is a very good method, but I thought you couldn't lose Freddy because he taunted you and he wouldn't move until you got close enough to him. Guess I was wrong eh? By the way the 1st time I played, I just chased him to the end I didn't have the patience to keep shooting at him. Off Topic: Is Loc just a pixel on screen or is he really shooting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainland Marauder Posted February 26, 2006 Author Share Posted February 26, 2006 Which version are you playing on? The Buffalo in High Noon seems rather durable before the chase gets underway. Once I had it pinned behind that sign and it took a great deal of Minigun ammo to blow it up. Another time I locked on with the HSRPG and fired at least seven rockets, and no fewer than five hit directly. Didn't work. Loc shoots true to his character. He's not a gangsta, although he thinks he is. He doesn't shoot like a gangsta. He's useless, and hence there's no need to take him on the chase. Although if you ask me, it ought to be up to him to go settle his little jail marriage with Freddy. "You tell me exactly what you want, and I'll explain to you very carefully why it cannot be." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick000 Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 Im playing PS2 Original version. I know that the buffalo can't be destroyed easily until Eddie shuts his mouth. It was awhile before I actually had blown the bomb. When I cheated on that mission for fun, the HSRPGs didn't work. I guess R* wanted you to hear all of the dialouge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainland Marauder Posted February 27, 2006 Author Share Posted February 27, 2006 Yes, there's not much of a *quickie* way through that one. Let's try to keep this topic about the "OG Loc" mission, although this find was part of my looking for unconventional means to do missions. If I find anything else interesting regarding other missions I'll post them later. "You tell me exactly what you want, and I'll explain to you very carefully why it cannot be." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnR-NoD Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 i won this mission 2 times one for me one for a friend, the second time i noticed that the vagos stop shooting at you once freddy dies , i noticed because my life was like on zero so i only shot freddy, just in case, and it worked thats something else to keep in mind in case you dont kill him before he reaches his friends/out of jail boyfriends . the vagos go away after the secuence, but they remain a few seconds , they didnt open fire after og`s husband died enyhow plus they have about the same aiming that sweet on the train mission (good or bad ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA_Loco Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 (edited) Yes, there's not much of a *quickie* way through that one. Let's try to keep this topic about the "OG Loc" mission, although this find was part of my looking for unconventional means to do missions. If I find anything else interesting regarding other missions I'll post them later. Yeah there's quite a lot to share about mission shortcuts. Someone might just kill us if we don't put spoilers on them One other known shortcut is the Robbing Uncle Sam mission. Some people have been having problems with that one. Edited February 27, 2006 by GTA_Loco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainland Marauder Posted February 27, 2006 Author Share Posted February 27, 2006 When you're looking at mission shortcut topics you're going to assume there will be some degree of spoilers. The "OG Loc" mission is also pretty inconsequential in regards to the storyline as a whole, although you do need to do it to progress onward. "Robbing Uncle Sam" is made easy by opening the warehouse before the gate (climb over) and lining up the crates for easy loading into the truck. This isn't anything new though. "You tell me exactly what you want, and I'll explain to you very carefully why it cannot be." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atwyatt Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 SPOILERS** At least for the ps2 version, on the OG Loc mission, has anyone tried to snipe him yet? Here's what I mean: when you first drive out onto the street, the other biker is waiting in front of that alley on the right, and he doesn't move until you get close enough. Maybe you could pull out the sniper rifle and take him out, or maybe shoot the bike's gas tank. I haven't tried it yet because I don't have any save files close to there. I know in Andy 'NTG' Nelson's speed run, he snipes Ryder before he gets to the boat. Something I found with 'High Noon' on the ps2 version, you can sprint out to Pulaski's car (with a single-handed weapon equipped because it's faster) and then switch to the AK-47 or M4 (?... the other weapon like the AK) and just start shooting his car. If you're standing close enough to his car (right against it) he will drive about 8 or 10 feet, then stop and get out. For some reason the AK-47/M4(?) seems to do enough damage at close range to stop it before it goes far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnR-NoD Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 Let's try to keep this topic about the "OG Loc" mission, although this find was part of my looking for unconventional means to do missions. If I find anything else interesting regarding other missions I'll post them later. as he said , but i tried snipering ryder, in pc v. , didnt worked, about the car simply shoot the tires and i t will be an easy catch for any mission with car chase, or shoot freddys tires he wont fall of tha bike but he will go to the side walk and crash against buildings slowing down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainland Marauder Posted March 3, 2006 Author Share Posted March 3, 2006 It's difficult to try to position yourself someplace where you can get a shot off like that while Freddy's stopped. I still say the easiest way is to leave Loc, lean forward to catch up with Freddy on the straightaway and pump MP5 lead into him until he's dead. No looping around East Los Santos or any other crap. "You tell me exactly what you want, and I'll explain to you very carefully why it cannot be." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnR-NoD Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 i guess James that this topic has gone farther the n you expectet? it would be a good idea to creat a topic on Ocuard way to win missions easy POST IDEAS HERE (not this topic) By NoD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nada Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 I sniped Freddy this last time, but it was right when you get to the end part where you kill him anyways. I wasn't able to shake Jeffrey and I didn't want to destroy the bike... Sniping was definately easier than blazing into the group with my uzi's blazing....I just couldn't do it w/o shaking Loc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanzant Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 I know the whole "high noon" stuff is off topic but I thought I'd share this anyways. If you fly the Hunter there and park it off the dirt road it will still be there after the cut scene and you can blow his car up before he gets to the highway. Oddly enought Pulaski always gets out of the car unharmed you have to take him out when he exits his vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainland Marauder Posted March 3, 2006 Author Share Posted March 3, 2006 I sniped Freddy this last time, but it was right when you get to the end part where you kill him anyways. I wasn't able to shake Jeffrey and I didn't want to destroy the bike... Sniping was definately easier than blazing into the group with my uzi's blazing....I just couldn't do it w/o shaking Loc. If you can't do it by simply getting off the bike, getting on and hitting the gas to take off immediately before he gets on, try purposely smashing into a car so he gets thrown a distance, then get on and take off. For me, he takes forever to get back on the bike when I wreck the bike into something. I figured that was the only time you could really get a sniper hit on Freddy, was at the end when it doesn't really matter how you take him out anymore. "You tell me exactly what you want, and I'll explain to you very carefully why it cannot be." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnR-NoD Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 (edited) i think he meant that btw: some times , hommies and / or during mission carachters take to much time to enter a vehicule because they were either to far or in the ground or something was in their way when you enter the vehicule so ( i guess) the AI dosent catch up with you and you have to get off and on the vehicule to get them to some how update the info and " aplie to their sences" and do what they must so "jeffrey" or "Og Loc" or "jail house wife" as you prefer seems to have deep problems with these couse most of the roads in this missions have ladders in the side walks or ligth posts or diferent ocean heigth levels ,there for gives the AI a hard time Edited March 3, 2006 by GnR-NoD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpitRhyma Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 (edited) Better yet, follow them fools WITH the lame (Loc) and follow the Vargos through the 1st 2 alleyways and when he goes through the 3rd one, just turn left (north?), go 1 block and turn right (east?) and go forward so you're actually ahead of the fools now, and reposition so you could get some nice shots at him. Since he speeds up when you're close behind him, you might want to get a nice head start when you see him coming. Obviously cheats can be used to help: Drive-By Mode> Slow-Down-Time> I'm sure you could get off the bike and use a big gun to do some damage if you time it right but to be realistic: where would you holster an AK when you're driving a crotchrocket? OH BTW: If you have trouble getting on the bike w/o Loc, remember that the key is running towards it MANUALLY so that he doesn't know exactly where you're going and pressing triangle when you're very close to it because when you press triangle he will go right for the bike also. Edited March 14, 2006 by SpitRhyma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainland Marauder Posted March 14, 2006 Author Share Posted March 14, 2006 Interesting strategy. Just keep in mind Freddy can take more bullets than the average Vago. Doing that method may take you getting off the bike, firing away on him, then chasing after him again, getting ahead of him and firing on him again. Have you actually done that, SpitRhyma? Maybe you can get him in one stop... If you want to shake Loc, follow SpitRhyma's advice and hold down the gas button as you climb on so you instantly take off before Jeffrey can get on. "You tell me exactly what you want, and I'll explain to you very carefully why it cannot be." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ktcv Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Im playing PS2 Original version. I know that the buffalo can't be destroyed easily until Eddie shuts his mouth. It was awhile before I actually had blown the bomb. When I cheated on that mission for fun, the HSRPGs didn't work. I guess R* wanted you to hear all of the dialouge. I think that car is BP/FP/EP/DP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riding like Rider Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 I always thought you'd fail if you lost Loc, too. That's why when I was first playing through, I'd fail because I'd fall often and lose Freddy because I'd be waiting for Loc to get back on the bike with CJ. Well this playthrough I'd hit a car to get thrown off the bike, and I decided to leave him behind to see what would happen. So I kinda found this on accident, but that's how a lot of stuff in GTA gets found Loc shoots about as well as he raps, so definitely nothing lost by leaving him. lmao i like your last part, he shoots as well as he raps! SO TrUE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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