ash1 Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 in a few years...chinese car makers like geely will be coming to north america and will be selling cars for around 10K and maybe even under...i think i would buy one...for an extra car if they are that cheap or maybe a winter car...im guessing they will be how hyundai excels first came they look pretty ok and im sure performance will be okay http://www.chinacarforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oogie Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 i'd rather buy a junk mobile for 500 $ than one of these ugly car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Keyes Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Those Chinese companies can't seem to come up with any original designs. Almost every one of their models looks like its ripped off some American, European, Japanese, or even Korean model. Maybe in a decade or two their build quality will be good enough for them to be at least worth looking at, but right now I'd rather not touch one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anuj Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Chinese cars are like Chinese guns. Less expensive, easier to get, and probably going to hurt Americans stupid enough to buy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulletProofPatriot Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 What in the blue f*ck is that? Is that even a car? Is it even a vehicle? Looks like a f*cking tomogochi to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anuj Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 What in the blue f*ck is that? Is that even a car? Is it even a vehicle? Looks like a f*cking tomogochi to me. Looks like a Chevy Aveo had hot vehicle monkeysex with a VW bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Chinese Manufacturers are very very various: there are like 900 (!!!!) of them with totally unspellable names, like Youngihyua, Xsianqi etc. More and more chinese people are able to afford a car, theretho, the margins explode. Local manufacturers try to export themselves, in US, in Europa etc. In design, there are 5 different tendences we can see on the chinese market: 1. Cars from Joint-venture firms like FAW-VW or Citroen. Those are basically models from the nineties produced there, with good quality expectations. They also manufacture Buicks there (including a Buick Van, a 97-02 Chevy Lumina in fact) Citroen ZX elysee FAW-VW official webpage 2. Cars manufactured on their own, with licensed design. They buy the copyrighted design of euro/US vehicles and they use it for their own brands. Poor quality Like this "chevrolet aveo". It's originally a project from ItalDesign design studio from 1992 made for fiat for its new 500. Fiat didn't buy it, but Daewoo did for it's Matiz, in 97. As Daewoo isnt anymore, and Chevrolet is... Italdesign cinquecento lucciola Daewoo Matiz Chevy matiz 3. Cars which design is a total unauthorized rip off of western models. No licence, it's like a fake vuitton bag. Poor quality cars This chinese RR phantom for example They also ripped off the town car. Lincoln yeah, pics: 1 2 3 4 Faw Honqi, my ass. 4. Cars which are not rip offs of any model but widely inspired from any Japanese/euro car from the mid/late 90s. Poor quality. Like this one 5. Own design chinese cars. Still poor quality. And ugly. See this Geely >Frist of all, you need to understand that if you buy chinese, you buy a car with dynamic perhaps an appealing design, but with dynamic qualities of a 80's or early 90's car, and with the safety level of a car from the 70's. Infact, the first imported chinese car in Europe, landwind got very poor results at crash tests. Crashtest1 GTAForums Related topic Isuzu Rodeo, Honda Passport are all based on GM Opel/Vauxhall Frontera first gen. Actually, this car is a rip-off, a REAL rip off, i.e. GM intended a lawsuit against JMC for copying the shell and design. What the Chinese did, they took the body of a Passport and they copied it without asking GM a single thing. As it's a rip off and not a licensed body model (like a lot of manufacturers do, eg: Montero Pajero), so the safety is not GM but chinese. You see the results. An advert pic of this vehicle >Plus, cars manufactured in china are really poor quality ones. Here's a link to ebay.de, where a pack of 2 was for sale. Look at interior, heating commodos etc... The design of those two belongs to category 4. ie, 90's inspired. I hope you like the explanation, i spent 30 mins on this. Signature soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suction Testicle Man Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Citroen ZX elysee I'd hit that retro sh*t. It's like the Renault 9 all over again. If at first you don't succeed, you fail, and the test will be terminated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kutthroat Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Karate isn't Chinese.. Ugly cars. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrick92 Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 The Chinese woman are nicer then the cars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuckindumass Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 ahhh...yugos, kias....lol never would I have thought, my 2.7 24v v6 (mitsubishi) chrysler sebring would be 'fast' but thanks to all kinds of manufacturers, I am usually out front When it comes to automobiles, I say, the more the merrier I own several cars at the moment 1970 440 4bbl a727 Plymouth Gran Coupe Barracuda (stolen, 1988, never recovered) 1970 455 Tripower TH400 Pontiac Tempest T37 12bolt 4.11 (stolen, 1985, never recovered) 1967 440 dual 4bbl a727 manual reverse valve body Dodge Dart GT 4.88 8-3/4 (in storage) 1973 360 4bbl a833 w/o.d. Dodge Swinger 3.90 8-3/4 (in garage at home) 2004 2.7 f.i. 4spd auto transaxle Chrysler Sebring Convertible (daily driver) The larger the auto market is, the more extremes we see, and the more likely you can get what you feel is fun to drive, at a price you can afford So bring on those chinese cars, lemme see what Chrysler does to keep me onboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumpyNutsack Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 You realize that if China tried to export its cars to the U.S., less than 1% of them would fail to pass any crash tests. That's why their cars COULD POSSIBLY be sold so cheap, but if you had to get the safety rating up to part with federal guidelines, that $10,000 car would soon be a $15,000+ car. BTW, f*ckindumass, why does your list of currently owned cars include two that you no longer own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uzer Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 This blue hatchback + This 2JZ-GTE = f*cking yes please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew1g Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 they are just ripoffs: original rover: sedan hatchback geely's rip off: there was a honda like that too but I can find pics of it. original seat cordoba: chinese rip-off original ford escort: chinese modified rip off: and another one, original Daewoo/chevy matiz, this one is a daewoo the rip off: and they are probably cheap labour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 PFF. Geely bought Rover which was risking bankrupcy. Actually you see on those pics MG Sport division of rovers. Signature soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic3 Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 PFF. Geely bought Rover which was risking bankrupcy. Actually you see on those pics MG Sport division of rovers. Yes, these days pretty much every car company is owned by another one, so they use tracing paper when designing cars most of the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJHW Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 And the Geely isn't an Escort. It's pininfarina designed you know. +FF7F24+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash1 Posted February 16, 2006 Author Share Posted February 16, 2006 Chinese Manufacturers are very very various: there are like 900 (!!!!) of them with totally unspellable names, like Youngihyua, Xsianqi etc. More and more chinese people are able to afford a car, theretho, the margins explode. Local manufacturers try to export themselves, in US, in Europa etc. In design, there are 5 different tendences we can see on the chinese market: 1. Cars from Joint-venture firms like FAW-VW or Citroen. Those are basically models from the nineties produced there, with good quality expectations. They also manufacture Buicks there (including a Buick Van, a 97-02 Chevy Lumina in fact) Citroen ZX elysee FAW-VW official webpage 2. Cars manufactured on their own, with licensed design. They buy the copyrighted design of euro/US vehicles and they use it for their own brands. Poor quality Like this "chevrolet aveo". It's originally a project from ItalDesign design studio from 1992 made for fiat for its new 500. Fiat didn't buy it, but Daewoo did for it's Matiz, in 97. As Daewoo isnt anymore, and Chevrolet is... Italdesign cinquecento lucciola Daewoo Matiz Chevy matiz 3. Cars which design is a total unauthorized rip off of western models. No licence, it's like a fake vuitton bag. Poor quality cars This chinese RR phantom for example They also ripped off the town car. Lincoln yeah, pics: 1 2 3 4 Faw Honqi, my ass. 4. Cars which are not rip offs of any model but widely inspired from any Japanese/euro car from the mid/late 90s. Poor quality. Like this one 5. Own design chinese cars. Still poor quality. And ugly. See this Geely >Frist of all, you need to understand that if you buy chinese, you buy a car with dynamic perhaps an appealing design, but with dynamic qualities of a 80's or early 90's car, and with the safety level of a car from the 70's. Infact, the first imported chinese car in Europe, landwind got very poor results at crash tests. Crashtest1 GTAForums Related topic Isuzu Rodeo, Honda Passport are all based on GM Opel/Vauxhall Frontera first gen. Actually, this car is a rip-off, a REAL rip off, i.e. GM intended a lawsuit against JMC for copying the shell and design. What the Chinese did, they took the body of a Passport and they copied it without asking GM a single thing. As it's a rip off and not a licensed body model (like a lot of manufacturers do, eg: Montero Pajero), so the safety is not GM but chinese. You see the results. An advert pic of this vehicle >Plus, cars manufactured in china are really poor quality ones. Here's a link to ebay.de, where a pack of 2 was for sale. Look at interior, heating commodos etc... The design of those two belongs to category 4. ie, 90's inspired. I hope you like the explanation, i spent 30 mins on this. wow good explanation and info...i didnt know all this... so all those chinese cars they say coming to North america...they will partnerships with US /europe firms or just 100% china owned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 100% china owned. The joint venture system is a one way lift. In theory US market is open but the China one is open "under some conditions" Signature soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millermagic Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 They are definitely copies. Won't have to worry about me buying one of them Chinese cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash1 Posted February 24, 2006 Author Share Posted February 24, 2006 nice chinese suv limo... all of these cars except the limo will probably be under 15K http://www.chinacarforums.com/forum/showth...p?p=465#post465 some actually NICE cars http://www.chinacarforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47 chery m14 http://www.chinacarforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59 next GTa, these chinese autos will be in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanillainy Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Basic rubbish family cars to me. Also there is vehicle disscussion forum, best over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 you could merge it with the topic you made before Signature soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 nvm, merged. And actually those cars are as solid as a box of matches. Signature soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Structo Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 Heh, we've been discussing that on the other car forum. And one guy found this: SMA 305, with brand also known as Maple. While the original Audi front looks rather normal and well-composed, the SMA front looks like a f*cking vacuum cleaner to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash1 Posted March 19, 2006 Author Share Posted March 19, 2006 Heh, we've been discussing that on the other car forum. And one guy found this: SMA 305, with brand also known as Maple. While the original Audi front looks rather normal and well-composed, the SMA front looks like a f*cking vacuum cleaner to me. did you guys hear in the news that chinese cars will come to detroit first thats so ironic since detroit is US hub for US cars, will be US hub for chinese cars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin2006rhs Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 Heh, we've been discussing that on the other car forum. And one guy found this: SMA 305, with brand also known as Maple. While the original Audi front looks rather normal and well-composed, the SMA front looks like a f*cking vacuum cleaner to me. It remindes me of the Shelby in your sig. But I like the Shelby more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cran. Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 (edited) These cars are terrible. I remeber one of these stupid companies got what was coming, Honda sued one of them for their ripoff of the CR-V. Gah, can't they just stop stealing everyones cars and just changing one small bit to make it kinda different? http://editorial.carsales.com.au/mellor/me...A2571330010E75A GREAT. Some chinese brand, which obviously is stealing cars from Isuzi (See first pic, carbon copy of Isuzi's Rodeo) wants to sell in australia. Piss off! We ALREADY HAVE THE RODEO IN OUT FORM!!!!1 Edited March 20, 2006 by Cran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Heh, we've been discussing that on the other car forum. And one guy found this: SMA 305, with brand also known as Maple. While the original Audi front looks rather normal and well-composed, the SMA front looks like a f*cking vacuum cleaner to me. did you guys hear in the news that chinese cars will come to detroit first thats so ironic since detroit is US hub for US cars, will be US hub for chinese cars What's your real intentions? I mean, chinese cars are crap. You know it, no? Signature soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA3Rockstar Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 That looks like a f*ckin' redesign of the VW Beetle, kind of f*ckin' sh*tty... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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