Svip Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 I am talking about the led-bys of course. Not all of course, cause generalising is bad. But I have noticed that some forums have led-bys that are either not active or not active in the forum, or is not contributing when needing. I am not going to mention "names", but I think the staff should do a research on the issue themselves. I am meanly saying this because I see a lot of potiental led-bys here and there, which cannot become it because of the "there are simply too many led-bys" rule/excuse. Just thought I should notice you all. Good day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simps Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Spring cleaning in GTAF is a nice idea. Don't mods and admins hate to come into a forum (where the led-by is inactive) just to lock a topic or to stop spam? This little bit of work cleaning should lighten the loads on the mods and admins. In other words, [spam]X2 LOL[/spam]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anuj Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 If there is one thing I've learned, it is that you should name names. Nobody is going to get pissed at you. Besides, making a suggestion that we go do some more work when you could just tell us who you think isn't pulling their weight is kinda strange. edit - The guy below me has the right idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 I don't visit the GTA3 forums all that much, but when I do I notice they're quite neglected. The listed ledby's are Mr. Wongs and Barguast. Barguast is a global mod, and understandably probably doesn't have as much time as others to frequent the forums. Mr. Wongs hasn't posted since June 29 2005 (although his last activity was ten days ago). I reckon the GTA3 forums are some that could warrant a thought or two. I'd nominate myself but I don't know jack about GTA3. Fuzzy's tip for potential future GTA3 ledby: Bartleby. In the Vice City forums, wolf doesn't post much. I feel he'd be a better ledby for PC Chat or somewhere where he's a bit more active (although PC Chat seems to be moderatored sufficiently already). The VC forums aren't a prob though, because Spuds has it under control nicely. I reckon the LCS forums could do with at least one ledby, too. Anyway, my two cents. I think the GTA3 forums are definitely worth a look. PS: I don't necessarily think the above members aren't pulling their weight. More of a potential opportunity for others to have a shot at being a ledby, or possibly members being ledby's in forums other than (what I see as) their ideal forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svip Posted February 23, 2006 Author Share Posted February 23, 2006 Well, anuj, my most concern was the PC Chat and WD&P forums. I think, unlike Fuzzy, that they should probably require some different led-bys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanillainy Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 LED-BYS FOR LCS PLZ! We need them. But i only know of Kevin_79 that is inactive, I say for all the inactive ones they should be demoted and new ones applied. We don't want the forums becoming sloppy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demarest Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Fuzzy's tip for potential future GTA3 ledby: Bartleby. Nevermind the guy who earned it after a few months of being here some 2.5 years ago that never did anything to forfeit it, eh? Bartleby would be a good second choice though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mxyzptlk Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Fuzzy's tip for potential future GTA3 ledby: Bartleby. Nevermind the guy who earned it after a few months of being here some 2.5 years ago that never did anything to forfeit it, eh? Bartleby would be a good second choice though. Yeah but I'm pretty busy lately. Seriously Demarest is the best choice for GTA3 led-by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jevon Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Well, anuj, my most concern was the PC Chat and WD&P forums. I think, unlike Fuzzy, that they should probably require some different led-bys. What's wrong with WD&P? It's one of the few forums I still read regularly, can't see anything amiss really? "Face Your Fears, Live Your Dreams" - No Fear"God was a dream of good government." - Deus Ex Machina "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." - Stephen Roberts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barguast Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 I don't visit the GTA3 forums all that much, but when I do I notice they're quite neglected. The listed ledby's are (...) Barguast. Barguast is a global mod, and understandably probably doesn't have as much time as others to frequent the forums. Plus I have since gotten a job. But yeah, I have probably done less than five things in that forum since I was appointed (which was only because another inactive led-by was removed). I probably haven't even stepped foot in there this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 A good idea would be to do a rotation. Every 3 or 6 months change the led bys. By doing this people will want to be choosen to be ledby and will make better posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demarest Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 But yeah, I have probably done less than five things in that forum since I was appointed (which was only because another inactive led-by was removed). * inactive led-by was removed banned @hawk: It's not about good posts. It's about knowledge, availabilty, and most importantly, the ability to LEAD the section. That said, Fuzzy Juzzy is better suited for VC led-by-ship than wolf. wolf's a great guy and represents on the regular in S&P. But Fuzzy leads the area not unlike Spuds. Then you'd have the perfect pair for that section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWEETSAPRIK Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Meh, I don't know about the rotation idea. That would make it possible to replace someone who's already doing a great job with someone who might not. If a section really needs a ledby then they should just find someone who is knowledgeable, active, and isn't a complete douchebag, then keep them as long as they're still doing the job. No need to replace anyone unless they aren't pulling their weight. I see what you mean about the possibility of certain people maybe acting/posting better if they knew there's a chance of them being made a ledby, though I still don't think it's needed. I mean the people who have those positions now didn't need any extra incentive. I always assumed that anyone the staff choose to be a ledby had the correct attitude and was posting adequately enough without any carrots being dangled. I don't visit most of those sections so I really can't speak to whether they need a new ledby or not. I visit PC Chat though, and I don't see any particular need in there. Out of curiosity Svip, what do you see as lacking, or not being done properly in PC Chat? Whatever it is, I must be missing it. PяopagaиdaIиc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob. Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Funky is right about the LCS forum, although there's a message pinned topic by barg, people still ignore it, but probably becuase they are new, but still they are at fault partially. I have reproted quite a few modding topics which have found there way into the LCS topic, even though barguasts topic states otherwise, which i'm sure is rather annoying for the mods to see a lot of reported topics in the LCS forums, which are probably rather sidetracking for what the mods want to get on with. A lot of new members visit due to the LCS forums and so it can get rather hectic in there. It's a shame i guess, becuase i love posting there, but it seems to of gone down a bit of a slide recentley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mxyzptlk Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Yes moving all the LCS modding topics has helped greatly (I've reported dozens to be moved as well), but that forum may be the most popular one soon and still remains very messy with repeat, similar or wrong-section topics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 If the PC Chat forums are in need of some extra care as Svip reckons, then perhaps moving wolf there from VC is a viable option. Dem, trust me, if I thought there was any chance of you being re-promoted, I'd have suggested you. You have a greater knowledge of GTA3 than most. Clearly. I don't want to get that argument going again though, so I'll leave it there. Thanks for the tip for VC ledby too. 'twould be rather awesome. Pity Spuds does his job so well, eh? Barguast, phew, glad you agree. That makes one less person I'm likely to piss off now. Runky (Funky!?) - glad we see the same way on the LCS forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demarest Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 If the PC Chat forums are in need of some extra care as Svip reckons, then perhaps moving wolf there from VC is a viable option. He's not a PC led-by already? Sorry, but that's an outrageous oversight. And you are right about Spuds. I don't think anybody defines led-by better than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbaneez Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 (edited) ... Edited December 14, 2008 by Barbaneez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamcs Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 I agree that wolf is helpful but that's not a reason to instantly install him as led-by in an area where very few problems occur. I'm looking at the first couple of pages in PC Chat and I see 2 locked topics, 0 moved topics, and there aren't many reports from that area either. Not to mention there's 2 led-by's in place already. If we really needed somebody else then wolf would be the obvious choice, but I'm sure the two that are already there plus the 14 global mods we have can handle what's there. As for GTA3/GTAVC/GTALCS.. if there's a problem, why don't you just report it? At the moment there's 14 moderators whose main job is to deal with problems like the ones mentioned. If you report it and nothing is done, then it's very likely that there's nothing wrong with it as opposed to it being ignored. Aren't the GTA3/GTAVC forums practically dead these days anyway? In General PC Chat I'm seeing maybe 3 or 4 posts per day, and same goes for VC General Discussion, so I really don't think we need more led-by's.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 I don't know if it's necessarily a situation of a public perception of a lack of ledby's. More of the fact that some of the ledby's currently appointed to some forums aren't in their ideal forums or aren't pulling their weight. Or perhaps more to the point, aren't as passionate as others could be. If there's one or two members consistently reporting posts in specific forums, perhaps then they could be considered for ledby-ship. Surely members who report posts and show a concern for a particular forum(s) are better candidates for ledby-ship than current ledby's who aren't active/don't do their job. I'm mainly speaking in regard to the GTA3 forums. I know they aren't active by anyone's standards, but the ledby's are even less active. It'd be nice to see them kept in shape by a fresh face on the scene who is both willing and capable to do the job. Looking at General PC Chat of GTA3, there's a couple of topics I can see that belong in editing forums, and a few that have poor topic titles (this is a major peeve of mine, and something that I feel a good active ledby could fix up as it's pretty unworthy of a report on its own). I'm now in the process of reporting these topics (figured I should add this as to avoid "report the post yourself" responses ). So yeah, I think the ledby's aren't necessarily needed to help moderate the forums in the general sense of the word. It's more that a dedicated, interested, and knowledgable member would be a useful addition to a ledby team for many minor things such as keeping pinned topics updated and concise, keeping topics titled appropriately, and making sure the topics are posted in their correct forums (eg. General Discussion as opposed to General PC Chat, etc.). It'd be nice to see some ledby's with a bit more of a passion for their forum rather than an attitude of just responding to reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demarest Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 As for GTA3/GTAVC/GTALCS.. if there's a problem, why don't you just report it? At the moment there's 14 moderators whose main job is to deal with problems like the ones mentioned. If the board was designed around that mentality, led-bys wouldn't exist. It's not JUST about fixing problems. It's about leading the area. Maybe activity would be bolstered with the right people leading the way. I don't think anybody was asking for MORE led-bys, just more active ones and rightfully so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faye Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 I agree with the most part in saying that LCS needs ledbys. It's full of n00bs (in saying that, I hope not to be taunted a n00b by others). I'd nominate myself, if doing so had ever have gotten me anywhere in life. ~Fenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamcs Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 I don't know if it's necessarily a situation of a public perception of a lack of ledby's. More of the fact that some of the ledby's currently appointed to some forums aren't in their ideal forums or aren't pulling their weight. Or perhaps more to the point, aren't as passionate as others could be. We're reviewing the current stafflist but I doubt we'll be replacing anybody because frankly there's nothing wrong with those areas as they are. I looked around and I don't even see much that needs updating to be honest, and certainly nothing that requires special abilities. I don't consider moves and title edits as minor things, those can be reported just like anything else. If these areas were really active and required a lot of regular updating etc then I'd see a point to this, but yea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Sounds good and point taken. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anuj Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 As for GTA3/GTAVC/GTALCS.. if there's a problem, why don't you just report it? At the moment there's 14 moderators whose main job is to deal with problems like the ones mentioned. If the board was designed around that mentality, led-bys wouldn't exist. It's not JUST about fixing problems. It's about leading the area. Maybe activity would be bolstered with the right people leading the way. I don't think anybody was asking for MORE led-bys, just more active ones and rightfully so. I'm not really contributing anything to the topic, but that post reminded me of when Cerbera tried to get the staff to change the term from "ledby" to "area leaders". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelman Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 I'm not really contributing anything to the topic, but that post reminded me of when Cerbera tried to get the staff to change the term from "ledby" to "area leaders". And of when we subsequently (albeit temporarily) added "area leader" to the word filter so that it was always replaced with "forum led-by". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAcSandNinEs Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 The SA forums are so full of crap that it's unbelieveable. I already sent Luke a clean-up for SA today. There were at least 10 pointless topics in SA chat. I vote for pdescobar. He almost knows as much as Mxyz. That is if he accepts the job. -JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demarest Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 pdescobar would be a good choice for most any section. Careful, thorough, and gentle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyMothersMySister Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 pdescobar would be a good choice for most any section. Careful, thorough, and gentle. I'll add him to the groin section now. Messiah To The Animals #Cyclop9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ-Jelly-Doughnut Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 pdescobar would be a good choice for most any section. Careful, thorough, and gentle. I'll add him to the groin section now. lol made me laugh...... Why is it naomi isnt a pgc led by anymore? I just found out she was one and then 3 days later.... -DJJD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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