need no suspension

[shantar]

just started modding gta3 and having fun, been using multiedit to set up some suspension values for a new vehicle but cant get it right. can anyone suggest some values that would create no suspension for vehicle such as shopping trolley/cart.

also do the players have mass and will this effect the vehicle suspension

[GT.Killer]

1.

can anyone suggest some values that would create no suspension for vehicle such as shopping trolley/cart.

 

2.

also do the players have mass and will this effect the vehicle suspension

 

1.

Upper limit = 0

Lower limit = 0

Bias = 0.5

Damping level = 0

 

2.

No. Player doesnt have mass that would affect on vehicles movement or supensions.

 

 

[BenMillard]

Those suspension settings will bounce around all over the place in game due to the way GTA3 and GTAVC suspension works. By creating a suspension travel of zero the forces will become very strange, since it wheels and chassis will need to react instantaneously to bumps. The vehicle would bounce around all over the place and might crash the game.

 

You always need a little bit of movement and a little bit of suspension force for the game to process the wheels. At least, that's what I found when I used to make setups in GTA3 and GTAVC.

 

 

Spring Force: 1.00Damper Force: 0.12Upper Limit: 0.10Lower Limit: -0.08

That's the setup I used for a Formula One racing car and it was nice and stiff. If you make the suspension too stiff it the vehicle will start wobbling and bucking, so you can't make a "zero movement" suspension. You could try making the Limits closer together than this setup but you'll then need to recalculate the suspension forces.

 

I'd recommend using CFG Studio for this because it comes with a special calculator for these values. It is available from the Tools > Suspension Helper menu.

[shantar]

thanks for the info. will give it a go. but this beggs the question, how does the bmx in SA work as that seems to have no suspension? was thinking of moving on to gta SA modding but dont want to run b4 i can walk.