shader Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Hey people, i'm playing the game knight-online(www.knightonlineworld.com), dunno if there's anyone who plays it here but anyway, they've released a new patch about a week ago, and after that patch, i realised something, here's how i found it out: i left my PC runing while in the Knight-Online game... i had lunch, etc... than came back to my room and saw that a strange sound is coming from the PC... first i checked all the fans, and i realised that a great heat is coming out of the graphic card(ati radeon x850)! I checked from the catalyst software and i was shocked, it was 82 degrees! I shut my PC down, got the graphic card out, first i thought that it can be because of the dust in the fan of my graphic card, i cleaned it... than i ran knight-online again... and guess what, it was 5 minutes after i ran the game and graphic card was 76 degrees!!! i exited knight-online and saw that the heat got lower very fast, it was back to it's normal heat(45 degrees) in faster than 1 minute! I think that it's a coding bug on ati graphic cards in that new patch, if there are any good overclockers or people who can answer me how to solve it, please help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercie Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 (edited) Hey people, i'm playing the game knight-online(www.knightonlineworld.com), dunno if there's anyone who plays it here but anyway, they've released a new patch about a week ago, and after that patch, i realised something, here's how i found it out: i left my PC runing while in the Knight-Online game... i had lunch, etc... than came back to my room and saw that a strange sound is coming from the PC... first i checked all the fans, and i realised that a great heat is coming out of the graphic card(ati radeon x850)! I checked from the catalyst software and i was shocked, it was 82 degrees! I shut my PC down, got the graphic card out, first i thought that it can be because of the dust in the fan of my graphic card, i cleaned it... than i ran knight-online again... and guess what, it was 5 minutes after i ran the game and graphic card was 76 degrees!!! i exited knight-online and saw that the heat got lower very fast, it was back to it's normal heat(45 degrees) in faster than 1 minute! I think that it's a coding bug on ati graphic cards in that new patch, if there are any good overclockers or people who can answer me how to solve it, please help! Chips warm up after use hun... It's like saying 'racing mods your engine' and 'makes it run hotter...' Let me put it this way... When you drive, your engine is warm... When you race, it gets hot. (Thus the use of new cooling systems for both gaming and racing, eh?) Think of your OS and internet and whatnot as a country drive... Then think of your video game 'a race.' It's not getting OCed, it's just getting used. Edited February 18, 2006 by Mercie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shader Posted February 19, 2006 Author Share Posted February 19, 2006 nope, even most wanted doesn't warm it up that much(max 67degrees), even it's graphics are 5 times better than knight online now i think that some n00bs coded knight-online graphic engine eheh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf68k Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 Get ATITool. You can adjust the clock speeds, see the temps, and check for artifacts You didn't say exactly which X850 is it; Pro, XT or PE The Pro and XT have the same clocks, only the Pro has fewer pixel pipes, which is Core: 520MHz and Mem: 1.08GHz PE clocks are Core: 540MHz and Mem: 1.18GHz If ATI memory clocks are anything like nVidia clocks then in ATITool it'll show up as half that, it's the DDR thing. So the Pro and XT might show up as 504MHz and the PE as 554MHz. Now it's also possible that the maker of the card may have OC'ed it themselves. Keep that in mind when comparing your speeds to what I posted. What I posted are the ATI official speeds. Although I don't know ATI cards that well, but I've never seen any ATI cards factory OC'ed. I've got no idea what normal temps are of an ATI. If that was a nVidia 6800 series card I would say those temps are normal with normal/stock coolers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majestic Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 It is not the game that makes your card run hot, its the sh*t cooling in your case. "n00bs coded knight-online graphic engine eheh" - right, why dont you code a better one then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf68k Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 That's not true. Games to heat up the card. You can have the best cooling in the world, short of liquid nitrogen, and your card will heat up when it's stressed like in games. Most reviewer use a series of games, HL2, BF2, FEAR and they also use RTHDRIBL (just rolls off the tongue don't it) to heat up the card and see how much better third-party VGA coolers are much better they cool over the stock cooler. When you run ATITool (0.25 build 13 works with nVidia cards) and do it's "Search for articfacts" tool you'll see your card heat up rather quickly. If nothing else the RTHDRIBL is cool to look out, but will stress your card and system if you try to run it full screen and/or any bigger than 640x480 maybe 800x600. I can run FEAR at it's max CPU and GFX preset settings (not 16x12) and only have 20-25% below 25FPS, and yet this thing will do 15-20FPS in full screen and 1024x768 and just under 30FPS @ 640x480 in full screen but 55-60 in windowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shader Posted February 20, 2006 Author Share Posted February 20, 2006 It is not the game that makes your card run hot, its the sh*t cooling in your case. "n00bs coded knight-online graphic engine eheh" - right, why dont you code a better one then? lol, i'm a ultra n00b in coding, so i don't to don't be seen as a n00b hehe and one more thing... the cooling system isn't good too cause it's the st0ck cooling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shader Posted February 20, 2006 Author Share Posted February 20, 2006 OK ppl, thanks for the help! And... i was thinking about OC'ing the card anyway so u know some good cooling systems 4 x850? Or u know a site like www.xoxide.com that ships international or to turkey... cause last time i asked them they said they ship only to USA... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cran. Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Get ATITool. You can adjust the clock speeds, see the temps, and check for artifacts Is there a tool for nvidia cards that checks for Articfacts and sh*t? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dup Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Get ATITool. You can adjust the clock speeds, see the temps, and check for artifacts Is there a tool for nvidia cards that checks for Articfacts and sh*t? No, unfortunately. nVidia cards have decent enough failsafes anyway. As long as you increment safely then chack for artefacts each time, you should have no problem. With a laptop card with no additional cooling, I doubt you'd see much boost or performance increase from overclocking anyway. As for cooling, the Zalman VF700-CU should be decent enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cran. Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Get ATITool. You can adjust the clock speeds, see the temps, and check for artifacts Is there a tool for nvidia cards that checks for Articfacts and sh*t? No, unfortunately. nVidia cards have decent enough failsafes anyway. As long as you increment safely then chack for artefacts each time, you should have no problem. With a laptop card with no additional cooling, I doubt you'd see much boost or performance increase from overclocking anyway. As for cooling, the Zalman VF700-CU should be decent enough. Bah, I just like benchmarking (Beat 4k in 06 @ 450/1250 ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf68k Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 @Dup and Cran. When you run ATITool (0.25 build 13 works with nVidia cards) and do it's "Search for articfacts" tool you'll see your card heat up rather quickly. Read Alert! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cran. Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 @Dup and Cran. When you run ATITool (0.25 build 13 works with nVidia cards) and do it's "Search for articfacts" tool you'll see your card heat up rather quickly. Read Alert! OH! Cool Thanks for pointing that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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