Clown. Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Not actually sure if this is possible (i'm no good at coding) but It sounds good. I often find myself looking at people's karma stars and wondering what they did to get them. Is it possible to change the karma stars so that when you click on them a little box of some sort comes up and provides info on the reasons why they were awarded karma, or would that be an impossible task with the size of this forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 All users have a karma log, but you can only see your own (apart from staff, who can see everyones). It's been brought up several times that people think karma logs should be public, but due to the nature of them, and ocassionally the reasons not being all that informative anyway - it's never happened. adam broke it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mxyzptlk Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Chances are, every star will say thx 4 teh buttsecks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demarest Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 It is my opinion that if a star could truly be attributed to a single event, it wouldn't be worthy of a star (though there are some keen exceptions). When I was mod, I'd usually link it to one particular event, but only because mods have to the way the karma system is set up. So even then, it would often just link you to the straw that broke the camel's back, but in the good way. If you're a regular in the person's area of expertise, chances are you already know of them and WHY they're decorated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon. Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 I support the idea to see karma logs !!! I think a forum poll should be placed up and if 80% say yes then DO IT. Oh yes, the democracy is coming! :0 Mxyz: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny_Tightlips Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 @Luke, there could always be a choice in your profile if you want your karma log to be public or not...right? ...besides that I ain't sayin nuthin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindancer Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 @Luke, there could always be a choice in your profile if you want your karma log to be public or not...right? When ever i see karma stars i always check the members log to see why they were awarded the star.(like i have just done to all of you on this thread with karma) If i was a joe member and could not view the karma logs, then that idea would be great for me. (I am a nosey bastard) Would this happen? me think NO. I think having the option for other members to view other members karma logs will cause conflict. "Why did he get a karma star for that when i done that and did not get anything" i would expect that sort of question would pop up all the time. and on those grounds alone, i think that's why this would not be implemented, but i am just a worker here. Ask one of the big wigs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liesofsilence Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 I support the idea to see karma logs !!! I think a forum poll should be placed up and if 80% say yes then DO IT. Oh yes, the democracy is coming! :0 Mxyz: "These forums are not a democracy. Therefore your rights do not apply here." -Opius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svip Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Chances are, every star will say thx 4 teh buttsecks I think this is not time to be honest and reveal your methods. A real magician does never reveal his methods! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mxyzptlk Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Wasn't there a topic in general chat where you could post your karma logs? I think that should be sufficient without causing more work, or negativity from warnings being on public display. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve... Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 I support the idea as Myz said. If you click a star or small box, a popup should open explaining why the member got the karma and who gave the member karma. I don't think that we should have our whole karma log on show, but I think there should be an option to view just that entry that says why the star is there. The same for bad karma. The stars that uzer_errors has. If this system was put in, I could click one of the bad stars and see what he done to deserve that. As Raindancer said, there is the times where whiney bitches will complain because the member did the same but wasn't rewarded anything. I also think we should do as Simon said, with the vote. It's a fair deal, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bill Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 I believe this is a good idea because with "elitism", Members go around saying that others will spam and they assume, that they didn't get warned for it. But there are down sides. I know that I only joined today but I've browsed for a while and I see the kind of bitching from some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 I support the idea as Myz said.If you click a star or small box, a popup should open explaining why the member got the karma and who gave the member karma. I don't think that we should have our whole karma log on show, but I think there should be an option to view just that entry that says why the star is there. An option to show why the star is there as well as which moderator handed it out pretty much is our whole karma log. The issue is inconsistency. Member 'x' made a guide on how to pass rampages in Vice City. He was rewarded with a karma star. Member 'y' made a largely identical guide on how to pass rampages in GTA3. His effort went unrewarded. There'd be a mountain of such claims, some fair, most not. The system works as is. Members with additions to their logs have the option to host it/upload a screenshot of it and post it in the 'post your karma log' topics that come around every once in a while. If you're really keen on finding out what others did to deserve their star/s, PM them or become a mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWEETSAPRIK Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Personally I agree with Dem, Raindancer, Mxy, and others on this one. Most of the time the single post linked to isn't the only reason for that member being commended. A mod might see you do something good that by itself isn't worth being given a star for, then that mod might see something else but still not think it's worthy of karma. Usually the post linked to is just as they said, the last in a string of "good deeds" but it could possibly be the least worthy out of all of them. I also agree about the "negativity" aspect. Somebody might have a bunch of old warnings, but maybe they've turned around since then. Or even worse, a member might have been given a warning for "homophobia" or "racism" or something along those lines. The post might have been clearly meant in jest, and just been possible to misunderstand. But if the warning was given before the forums were "streamlined" and the post/topic no longer exists, then people would have no way of checking for themselves, and might get the wrong idea about that member. But yeah, if you really are that curious you could always ask the member, or find the "karma log" topic in gen chat and see if they posted theirs. PяopagaиdaIиc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guybrush Threepwood Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 But yeah, if you really are that curious you could always ask the member, or find the "karma log" topic in gen chat and see if they posted theirs. That's the only real thing I'd suggest either. If you made karma logs public, you would also see a lot of dirt. Take mine for example (no, I'm not posting it here). I did stuff in the past I'm not proud of, and it in no way reflects who I am today. However it is still there. I don't have a problem with mods, admins or myself being able to view it. However if the general public saw it, they would draw conclusions about me that weren't true. And I suspect a lot of other members who have warnings/a bad history, would not want all their hard work to progress and improve set to zero. On top of that, I think it's insulting to question why somebody got a karma star. You're questioning the judgement of the mods/admins, the member himself, and you display a childish jealousy by going "awww, why did he get one, boohoo." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanillainy Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 I say only show the commendations not the warnings, no one really wants them brought up. But showing commendations is a good idea i thnik, i always try and find why people have karma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knife Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 I agree that viewing more info about Commendations is a good idea, the only thing is it might spark wars, like karma seems to do to people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWEETSAPRIK Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 If I remember my history correctly, WWI began because the Archduke of Austria Franz Ferdinand was assassinated in Sarajevo by Gavrilo Princip, a Bosnian Serb student who was jealous of his karma. I must admit that I'm just as nosy curious about the contents of some people's logs. I just don't think it'll solve anything, but I do see it causing problems. I think we'd start to see a bunch of "well I did that too, and I didn't get any karma" type crap. I guess if the staff think it's a good idea they'll implement it. PяopagaиdaIиc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 LOL. Hmm...colour co-ordinated Karma? Depending on what the Star was for? Would give people a better idea, without giving the game away on it all. Mind you, from what I see, it just works off a simple star grading system, where 1 star is one image, but 2 stars is also 1 image, 3 stars is one, etc. Might mean a lot of coding needs to be put in. Mind you same for click each individual star. - GTAuron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kutthroat Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Everybody should see my log.. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarjar Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 Mabye there could be a forum in the off topic section of GTAF or something. For people wanting to tell people how they got there stars. It could work like the GTAF Member Picture Topic does. Just an idea, if you like the idea i will start a topic for it. And if it is a good idea please don't steal it. I don't usually come-up with good ideas for the forums . Also is there a way to allow users Karma logs to be viewed, because that could help with the topic if we decide ot make one. Would mean an admin or someone could just unlock it to the public and could be linked to from the first post in the topic, simalar to like i said the GTAF Member Pics Topic works. Cheers' jarjar @Kutthroat - lol, Good one . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anuj Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 Everybody should see my log.. Jesus Christ monkeyf*ck, why did your karma log load from the bottom up? Now I won't be able to sleep. Given the completely subjective nature of karma and the fact that its rarely given out for one post, I'm sort of against making them publicly viewable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 Dunno if you realise, but there's been countless 'post your karma log' topics in the past. It's only a matter of time until the next one comes around. A whole forum dedicated to it is clearly overkill. A dedicated topic, to some people, is overkill. If you want your karma log visible, click on the 'view karma log' javascript link below your name or in your profile. Right-click -> View Page Source. Select it all (CTRL + A), and paste it into Notepad. Edit the bit at the start which says @import url(css.php?d=23_gtanet_2-026.css); to @import url(http://www.gtaforums.com/css.php?d=23_gtanet_2-026.css) I assume minor parts of the URL will change according to the skin you desire, but that's hardly an issue. Once that's done, save as a html file and upload to one of many free web hosts out there, such as Freewebs. Then you're free to link to the uploaded file, and it'll function exactly as your true karma log does - except that anyone can view it. On a side note, why can you view your own karma in your own profile, yet not see other member's stars when viewing their profiles? lolcerbwang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runestoner Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 I agree that you should be able to choose whether your karma log be public or private. I did remember a topic a while back where people posted screen shots of their WARN page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainland Marauder Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 On a side note, why can you view your own karma in your own profile, yet not see other member's stars when viewing their profiles? Good question. Not that I knew you could see your own...you have to see one's posts to see his/her karma stars. IMO there is no reason to have it made public unless someone wishes to do so the method laid out by Fuzzy Juzzy, or some dedicated topic or whichever. As a moderator on another, non-gaming related forum I prefer to give warnings and such in privacy when possible and practical, for among other reasons, not having to field the "well you did this or that to Poster X, why not Poster Y?" questions from people. So I can see where Luke, anuj et. Al are coming from. "You tell me exactly what you want, and I'll explain to you very carefully why it cannot be." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_king Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 I think being able to see people's karma is a good idea. Note: Once i had a gtaf glitch in which i was able to see my own karma as well as other people's karma. I didn't know it was a glitch at the time though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindancer Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 I am sorry, but karma logs are private and confidential. Law forbids me sharing this information with you, however if you write to your local goverment representative requesting the information. Please ask them to contact me directly at: Raindancer www.Gtaforums.com The Internet Server 5, node 7 Wi-fi lan the lamb IT1 2PY I will then be happy to share the dirt on everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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