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Bizarro.

The Official Rap/Hip Hop Topic

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BrassKnuckles

If you're looking for quality IT, look no further than Revolutionary Volume 2. I'm sure you've heard a track or two off it, but the whole album is better than the sum of its parts. Not to be contradictory, but check out (individually) "Peruvian Cocaine," "Freedom of Speech," "You Never Know," and "Crossing the Boundary." Some of my favorites.

 

Regarding rap, I like a mix of underground and golden age, if that makes sense. Immortal Technique, for example, and Ice Cube. MF DOOM and the Geto Boys. There is definitely no better style, just differences and similarities.

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Gta Master.

I have Freedom of Speech, and Peruvian Cocaine, haven't heard of the other two though. I have one song by Scarface from the Geto Boys called "Mr. Scarface is back" or something like that. It's pretty good, I like it.

Scarface187: You said that a topic like this was locked a long time ago, why? I don't see anything wrong with making a topic about Rap and Hip Hop, I was wondering why there wasn't one a few days ago.

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just another thug

Eh, the only Geto Boys I've heard is "Damn it feels good to be a gangster"

 

Got to love that Office Space classic.

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Paco
I have "My Minds Playing Tricks On Me" and "Yes Yes Y'all", hands down the best 2 Geto Boyz songs ever.

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Rayo Puño
I only have one Quasimoto song, and that's Microphone Mathematics. I love it though. I'm going to get some more songs by him soon.

Scarface: What!? You haven't heard Dance With The Devil!? You need to hear it ASAP, I think it's a really good song.

Get "Boom Music" and "Closer" by Quas. Quas is straight up nice, I need to go get me a few of his albums.

 

Rayo: <3 Tondeff. biggrin.gif

Sounds good. I'll be sure to check those out.

Anyone know any good songs by IT, MF Doom, or Quasimoto I should check out? Or just other artists in general I should listen to. I need some more music.

For IT I'd say get Obnoxious or No Mercy. He really shows off his lyrical talents on those tracks.

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Bizarro.
I only have one Quasimoto song, and that's Microphone Mathematics. I love it though. I'm going to get some more songs by him soon.

Scarface: What!? You haven't heard Dance With The Devil!? You need to hear it ASAP, I think it's a really good song.

Get "Boom Music" and "Closer" by Quas. Quas is straight up nice, I need to go get me a few of his albums.

 

Rayo: <3 Tondeff. biggrin.gif

Sounds good. I'll be sure to check those out.

Anyone know any good songs by IT, MF Doom, or Quasimoto I should check out? Or just other artists in general I should listen to. I need some more music.

For IT I'd say get Obnoxious or No Mercy. He really shows off his lyrical talents on those tracks.

I'm pretty sure I have No Mercy somewhere on my computer, but I know I don't have Obnoxious, I'll check them out. Thanks for the suggestions.

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Scarface187
I have Freedom of Speech, and Peruvian Cocaine, haven't heard of the other two though. I have one song by Scarface from the Geto Boys called "Mr. Scarface is back" or something like that. It's pretty good, I like it.

Scarface187: You said that a topic like this was locked a long time ago, why? I don't see anything wrong with making a topic about Rap and Hip Hop, I was wondering why there wasn't one a few days ago.

It wasn't locked, just a bunch of people argued that it wasn't neeeded because there is too much going on in hip hop or something like that.

 

 

@Rayo: Yeah Obnoxious is sweet. That has to be my favorite song of his. The samples from Scarface and the New Jack City dialogue at the end of Peruvian Cocaine is awesome too.

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Ciabatta
I only have one Quasimoto song, and that's Microphone Mathematics. I love it though. I'm going to get some more songs by him soon.

Scarface: What!? You haven't heard Dance With The Devil!? You need to hear it ASAP, I think it's a really good song.

Get "Boom Music" and "Closer" by Quas. Quas is straight up nice, I need to go get me a few of his albums.

 

Rayo: <3 Tondeff. biggrin.gif

Sounds good. I'll be sure to check those out.

Anyone know any good songs by IT, MF Doom, or Quasimoto I should check out? Or just other artists in general I should listen to. I need some more music.

Fatbacks, Greenery, Crime, Hydrant Game, Bad Character, Bluffin' and Rappcats Pt. 3 are just a few of the Quasimoto tracks you should check out. I just got listening to a few songs from Doom's MM...Food and the beats are amazingly nostalgic and fresh. Check out Deep Fried Frenz, Kookies, and Hoe Cakes. I haven't really heard a lot of IT, although he seems to be a favorite here on the Forums.

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Bizarro.

Heh, Hoe Cakes, sounds good. I would check most of these songs out now so I could give some feedback on them, but my PC is f*cked up right now and I'm trying to get it to work right again. I'll listen to those tracks as soon as I get my computer running again.

 

Everyone check out the first post. I made a banner for the topic. Anyone think it's good?

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Paco
I only have one Quasimoto song, and that's Microphone Mathematics. I love it though. I'm going to get some more songs by him soon.

Scarface: What!? You haven't heard Dance With The Devil!? You need to hear it ASAP, I think it's a really good song.

Get "Boom Music" and "Closer" by Quas. Quas is straight up nice, I need to go get me a few of his albums.

 

Rayo: <3 Tondeff. biggrin.gif

Sounds good. I'll be sure to check those out.

Anyone know any good songs by IT, MF Doom, or Quasimoto I should check out? Or just other artists in general I should listen to. I need some more music.

Fatbacks, Greenery, Crime, Hydrant Game, Bad Character, Bluffin' and Rappcats Pt. 3 are just a few of the Quasimoto tracks you should check out. I just got listening to a few songs from Doom's MM...Food and the beats are amazingly nostalgic and fresh. Check out Deep Fried Frenz, Kookies, and Hoe Cakes. I haven't really heard a lot of IT, although he seems to be a favorite here on the Forums.

Deep Fried Frenz, Hoe Cakes, and Rapp Snitch Knishes were my faves off that album. I still need to cop me Madvillainy.

 

Bizzaro: Its much too plain in my view, try to work on it a bit more, add some content rather than a few cut + paste pix.

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noodles

 

Everyone check out the first post. I made a banner for the topic. Anyone think it's good?

I'd try to not include actual artists in the banner. Not everyone neccessarilylikes the same artists you do. Maybe some graffiti might work? smile.gif

 

Who do you guys like far as producers?

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Paco

Premier, Madlib, RZA, Dr. Dre, and thats all that comes to mind at the moment.

 

Rayo: Obnoxious is one of the greatest IT tracks I heard.

 

EDIT: I just thought of Dan the Automater, Prince Paul, and Duke Bootee. Bootee did alot of Furious Five beats, if I recall correctly.

Edited by Paco

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Scarface187

 

Everyone check out the first post. I made a banner for the topic. Anyone think it's good?

I'd try to not include actual artists in the banner. Not everyone neccessarilylikes the same artists you do. Maybe some graffiti might work? smile.gif

 

Who do you guys like far as producers?

Dre, Madlib, Danger Mouse for the Dangerdoom stuff, and RZA.

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Rayo Puño

 

Everyone check out the first post. I made a banner for the topic. Anyone think it's good?

I'd try to not include actual artists in the banner. Not everyone neccessarilylikes the same artists you do. Maybe some graffiti might work? smile.gif

 

Who do you guys like far as producers?

Stoupe (the best), Kno, 7L, El-P, Rjd2, and whoever produces Bone Thugz sh*t.

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Paco
I forgot Rj, that man is nice.

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Tim Dog

Since the year 2000, rap has died because of the commercial rappers coming in and ruining the whole game. What is real sad, though, is that fact that people listening to "rap" nowadays are not appreciating where rap started. After all, everything you hear in rap music sprouted from the roots of The Sugarhill Gang. "Rappers" like Jay-Z, Ja Rule, 50 Cent, Chingy, P. Diddy, Ludacris, Nelly, Murphy Lee, G-Unit, Nelly's rap group, Bad Boy Entertainment (except for Biggie) etc. are ruining the great image of rap music.

 

Oldschool hiphop is what I listen to, such as Lord Finesse, Eric B. & Rakim, BDP, Leaders of the New School, EPMD, Wu-Tang, Kool G Rap, Nas, Das Efx, Lords of the Underground, Brand Nubian. Basically just eastcoast New York/New Jersey hiphop.

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Paco

I see New York as the best place for Rap, but you can't say that the West Coast hasn't done sh*t for the Hip-Hop culture. When Dre came around with his own G-Funk, that sh*t was taking over, and it is definately a damn good genre. The early 90s belonged to the West Coast the way I see it.

 

Off topic: Everytime I see your name I say to myself "Tim Dog can eat a big fat diiiick" (Snoop on Dr. Dre's "Dre Day")

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BrassKnuckles
Since the year 2000, rap has died because of the commercial rappers coming in and ruining the whole game. What is real sad, though, is that fact that people listening to "rap" nowadays are not appreciating where rap started. After all, everything you hear in rap music sprouted from the roots of The Sugarhill Gang. "Rappers" like Jay-Z, Ja Rule, 50 Cent, Chingy, P. Diddy, Ludacris, Nelly, Murphy Lee, G-Unit, Nelly's rap group, Bad Boy Entertainment (except for Biggie) etc. are ruining the great image of rap music.

 

Oldschool hiphop is what I listen to, such as Lord Finesse, Eric B. & Rakim, BDP, Leaders of the New School, EPMD, Wu-Tang, Kool G Rap, Nas, Das Efx, Lords of the Underground, Brand Nubian. Basically just eastcoast New York/New Jersey hiphop.

I hope you're not equating West Coast hip-hop to commercial rap. 50 Cent grew up in your very highly-revered New York, and some of the best rappers in history were from Cali.

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gta_player5
For IT I'd say get Obnoxious or No Mercy. He really shows off his lyrical talents on those tracks.

No Mercy is probably one of his best songs. I also like Streets of Harlem and Creation & Destruction. No Mercy opens with a good line and just continues flowing.

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DJ-Chronic
For IT I'd say get Obnoxious or No Mercy. He really shows off his lyrical talents on those tracks.

No Mercy is probably one of his best songs. I also like Streets of Harlem and Creation & Destruction. No Mercy opens with a good line and just continues flowing.

No mercy is heavy, heavy beat. He flexes his lyrical might on that track. Definetly one of his best.

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Bizarro.

I was wondering if anyone has any good instrumentals to just chill out to? I've been listening to "Razorblade Alcohol Slide" (I think that's the title of it) by DJ-Qbert a lot lately. I just wanted to know some more good relaxing/calm, etc. beats I should hear.

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noodles

 

Since the year 2000, rap has died because of the commercial rappers coming in and ruining the whole game. What is real sad, though, is that fact that people listening to "rap" nowadays are not appreciating where rap started. After all, everything you hear in rap music sprouted from the roots of The Sugarhill Gang. "Rappers" like Jay-Z, Ja Rule, 50 Cent, Chingy, P. Diddy, Ludacris, Nelly, Murphy Lee, G-Unit, Nelly's rap group, Bad Boy Entertainment (except for Biggie) etc. are ruining the great image of rap music.

 

Oldschool hiphop is what I listen to, such as Lord Finesse, Eric B. & Rakim, BDP, Leaders of the New School, EPMD, Wu-Tang, Kool G Rap, Nas, Das Efx, Lords of the Underground, Brand Nubian. Basically just eastcoast New York/New Jersey hiphop.

Let me just preface this by saying I understand this is all opinion, and I'm just trying to start some discussion.

 

With that out of the way; if you consider Nas old school wouldn't Jay Z be old school too? Jay was actually in the game (with Jaz O) before Nas, despite Illmatic dropping before Reasonable Doubt. I'm sure all you guys have seen the Hawiaan Sophie video, but Jay was doing songs like The Originators and Can I Get Open before Nas started.

 

Jay is my favorite MC so I feel like rebutting your statement about him (though I think Ludacris is an above average artist and Biggie wasn't the only quality rapper out of Bad Boy). Plus I have a half an hour before I have to go to class, so might as well do something constructive. As far as the Sugar Hill Gang, ask Grand Master Caz about them; but back to my point . You say Jay is ruining the image of hip hop... how exactly? Firstly, who's perception of hip hop is he ruining? Are you talking about the MTV crowd, because I wouldn't really care about their perception of hip hop.

 

Are you talking about the music industry? If so, Jay is one of the artists garnering credibility and respect towards hip hop in the industry. To be honest, among the mainstream, Nas, Jay and maybe Kanye are the only rap artists I feel are respected by the industry as a whole. 50 is respected for his sales, but is seen as perpetrating the violence/beef aspect of hip hop.

 

Or are you talking about the hip hop head who grew up listening to the genre? I so, then he should know better than to think Jay ruined hip hop. Let me guess, you think Jay ushered in the wave of materialistic/egotistical rappers we have today; rappers more concerned with bling and money than the art form? Well, if you want to get technical, hip hop has always been materialistic/egotistical. Go back as far as you want and rappers were talking about what they had and how great they were. Case in point:

 

 

check it out, i'm the c-a-s-an-the-o-v-a

and the rest is f-l-y

ya see i go by the code of the doctor of the mix

and these reasons i'll tell ya why

ya see i'm six foot one and i'm tons of fun

and i dress to a t

ya see i got more clothes than muhammad ali and i dress so viciously

i got bodyguards, i got two big cars

that definitely aint the wack

i got a lincoln continental and a sunroof cadillac

so after school, i take a dip in the pool

which really is on the wall

i got a color tv so i can see

the knicks play basketball

hear me talkin bout checkbooks, credit cards

more money than a sucker could ever spend

but i wouldnt give a sucker or a bum from the rucker

not a dime til i made it again

ya go hotel motel whatcha gonna do today (say what)

ya say im gonna get a fly girl gonna get some spankin

drive off in a def oj

everybody go, hotel motel holiday inn

say if your girl starts actin up, then you take her friend

master gee, am I mellow

its on you so what you gonna do

 

Now if materialism/egotism is and has always been a part of hip hop, how do you blame a guy like Jay for ruining the genre? Unless of course, you feel he perpatrated a trend of subpar lyricism and music in general. If that's the case, I can post a laundry list of songs you should listen to to change your mind on that.

 

@producers

I've been listening to alot of Wu lately, and I appreciate RZA so much more than I already did. I've been listening to cuts from Ghosface Killah's upcoming album and it sounds like it's going to be amazing.

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CochiseWarrior

I give you all the god of hip hop himself....(drumroll)....KOOL DJ HERC AND THE HERCULOIDS!

 

user posted image

 

Yeah. They own.

 

 

 

oh and I cant help but laugh at this... The member "Tim Dogg", I believe it was said best by Dre and Snoop,

 

 

Eazy E can eat a big fat dick

Tim Dogg can eat a big fat dick

 

Just kidding. biggrin.gif

 

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Rayo Puño
I was wondering if anyone has any good instrumentals to just chill out to? I've been listening to "Razorblade Alcohol Slide" (I think that's the title of it) by DJ-Qbert a lot lately. I just wanted to know some more good relaxing/calm, etc. beats I should hear.

One word, Rjd2. He's like a hip hop dj I guess. He does pretty much all instrumental sh*t, and it's amazing. I'd say get the whole album Deadringer, his debut. A few of his best songs are Ghostwriter, Smoke and Mirrors, June (which has Copywrite spitting a few verses), the Horror, and 1976.

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Scarface187
I was wondering if anyone has any good instrumentals to just chill out to? I've been listening to "Razorblade Alcohol Slide" (I think that's the title of it) by DJ-Qbert a lot lately. I just wanted to know some more good relaxing/calm, etc. beats I should hear.

One word, Rjd2. He's like a hip hop dj I guess. He does pretty much all instrumental sh*t, and it's amazing. I'd say get the whole album Deadringer, his debut. A few of his best songs are Ghostwriter, Smoke and Mirrors, June (which has Copywrite spitting a few verses), the Horror, and 1976.

I believe 1976 is on Since We Last Spoke.

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Rayo Puño

 

I was wondering if anyone has any good instrumentals to just chill out to? I've been listening to "Razorblade Alcohol Slide" (I think that's the title of it) by DJ-Qbert a lot lately. I just wanted to know some more good relaxing/calm, etc. beats I should hear.

One word, Rjd2. He's like a hip hop dj I guess. He does pretty much all instrumental sh*t, and it's amazing. I'd say get the whole album Deadringer, his debut. A few of his best songs are Ghostwriter, Smoke and Mirrors, June (which has Copywrite spitting a few verses), the Horror, and 1976.

I believe 1976 is on Since We Last Spoke.

I DIDN'T SAY THEY WERE ALL ON DEAD RINGER JAMES. EVEN THOUGH ALL THE OTHERS ARE. GOD.

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Ciabatta

 

Everyone check out the first post. I made a banner for the topic. Anyone think it's good?

I'd try to not include actual artists in the banner. Not everyone neccessarilylikes the same artists you do. Maybe some graffiti might work? smile.gif

 

Who do you guys like far as producers?

Producers? MF Doom A.K.A Metal Fingers-He uses just about anything as a beat. Anything from funk, jazz, soft rock, a song from an old cartoon show, etc. All of his stuff is creative. I regard him and Madlib as hip-hop producing virtuosos. Offtopic: Kanye West is not as big a genius as everyone regards him to be on the wheels of steel. That accolade should be given to the aforementioned and the following.

 

Madlib-His jazz and electronic sounds are crazy. The production on The Further Adventures of Lord Quas is a fine example of Madlib skills.

 

RZA-Raw, hardcore hip-hop at it's finest. His dirty drum loops are the trademark. The piano on the ODB Return to the 36 Chambers album gave RZA also another trademark.

 

Pete Rock-One of the best jazz-rap producers. His work is impeccable and it cannot be touched.

 

DJ Premier-His work on the Daily Operation album is just remarkable. He is also a force to be reckoned with on Illmatic.

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Kutthroat

I've been listening to "Razorblade Alcohol Slide" (I think that's the title of it) by DJ-Qbert a lot lately.

That song is actually done by D-Styles off of QBert's 'Wave Twisters'.

 

If you want more turntablism I'd recommend D-Styles' 'Phantazmagorea' album.

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Bizarro.
I've been listening to "Razorblade Alcohol Slide" (I think that's the title of it) by DJ-Qbert a lot lately.

That song is actually done by D-Styles off of QBert's 'Wave Twisters'.

 

If you want more turntablism I'd recommend D-Styles' 'Phantazmagorea' album.

Oh, I thought DJ Q-Bert did it blush.gif . Well, thanks for the recommendation. I'll check that out ASAP.

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Tim Dog

@noodles, actually Nas had 2 albums before Jay-Z' first release, the unreleased 'Pre-Illmatic' and Illmatic. Since '91 Nas started off in the scene of hiphop. I liked Jay-Z when he rocked the set as a feature with Big Daddy Kane's 'Show & Prove' in '94 and Big L's 'Da Graveyard' in '95. Jay-Z' flow was unique back then, but like most pioneer rappers, they're changing their style and so failing to stick true to the game. So yes, he kinda ruined it.

 

@topic, And about the West-Coast rap, creators of gangsta rap, I don't feel it, it's soft and mellow which makes me sleepy. I'm not saying I don't like the whole west, just not gangsta. ("If you want to be a gangsta join the maffia in Italy" Big Daddy Kane) Westcoast rappers like Pharcyde, Ice-T, Cypress Hill are good. Eastcoast rappers got more sharper lyrics with intellect and knowledge that teaches you what's it all about and more rougher beats called hardcore rap. Most beats you hear from west were already used in the east. Btw Snoop dogg's style came from the flow of Slick Rick and the voice of Smooth B.

 

"You can be a nigga with an attitude

But when I spank that ass you'll have gratitude" Tim Dog.

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