_-playero-_ Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 (edited) Been digging around... Toshiba 72" LCD TV $5,299.99 + Sony Wireless Home Theater $679.99 Big fancy Sony BD Player Dunno, say $1500 + Some movies... No idea, maybe $500 in movies. Total: $7978 One could almost buy a car with that... but of course, we all prefer entertainment edit: f*ckING TAGS Edited January 9, 2006 by _-playero-_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jersiq Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Also, it'll be great when BD writers are out and affordable so that 100GB discs can be used for storage. And in the end, it may be just relegated to a storage technology. With the advent of IPTV in some areas, and improved encapsulation methods causing less bandwidth on said IPTV connections, why would I invest even moderate amounts of money either format when I can just stream the same content from my ISP, over the bandwidth I am already paying for, and have the same quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reticulatingsplines Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 While it's all well and good to play the "we'd still be using rock tools" metaphor, it fails to point out that VHS had a much, much longer lifespan than DVD has had. DVD, for the common user, is more than good enough. DVD, for the common user, is more than good enough. Geddit, yet? DVD, for the common user, is more than good enough. Having to purchase an entirely new home theatre setup to play HD movies is a cost most people will not be willing to make until the last minute. People look at DVD's, and say "What's the problem? Why change now?" DVD offered real benefits over VHS. It was a revolution. HD video offers none of this, and is merely wankery. That's right, wankery. If I want to see pores, I'll go see a f*cking Imax movie. I'll go the cinema. That's what it's for. When I watch movies at home, I just want to watch movies. I don't want to have to measure out how far my couch has to be from the TV so I can't see all the artifacts in the encoding, or try and find a way to run wires around the room for a 7.1 speaker setup. For me, the way HD is being pushed is more an excuse for the lame, effects-driven drivel that we have to put up with as consumers of Hollywood "art" than it is about entertainment. You get nothing like the same feel from a Matrix sequel, say, at home as you do in the cinema; but with HD you can get close, if you're willing to pay the cash. HD doesn't make the actor's performances any better, it doesn't make the story any more believable. It just makes cinematographic wankery sharper. Why should I spend the cash on propping up the death of Hollywood innovation? Get f*cked, quite frankly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cran. Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 While it's all well and good to play the "we'd still be using rock tools" metaphor, it fails to point out that VHS had a much, much longer lifespan than DVD has had. DVD, for the common user, is more than good enough. DVD, for the common user, is more than good enough. Geddit, yet? DVD, for the common user, is more than good enough. Having to purchase an entirely new home theatre setup to play HD movies is a cost most people will not be willing to make until the last minute. People look at DVD's, and say "What's the problem? Why change now?" DVD offered real benefits over VHS. It was a revolution. HD video offers none of this, and is merely wankery. That's right, wankery. If I want to see pores, I'll go see a f*cking Imax movie. I'll go the cinema. That's what it's for. When I watch movies at home, I just want to watch movies. I don't want to have to measure out how far my couch has to be from the TV so I can't see all the artifacts in the encoding, or try and find a way to run wires around the room for a 7.1 speaker setup. For me, the way HD is being pushed is more an excuse for the lame, effects-driven drivel that we have to put up with as consumers of Hollywood "art" than it is about entertainment. You get nothing like the same feel from a Matrix sequel, say, at home as you do in the cinema; but with HD you can get close, if you're willing to pay the cash. HD doesn't make the actor's performances any better, it doesn't make the story any more believable. It just makes cinematographic wankery sharper. Why should I spend the cash on propping up the death of Hollywood innovation? Get f*cked, quite frankly. That's what I meant to say, really. HD doesn't make the movie any better (imo), and besides, we can't be upgrading the main form of media disks everytime an advancement is made, not everyone can afford that. It's expected for things like consoles, due to the fact that games are getting bigger and bigger, we all know that. I'm an example of a common user, DVDs are quite fine for me. Bah, I don't even have a DVD player (Mainly because of my Xbox, haha) Anyway, I couldn't give two sh*ts about HD-DVDs and Blu-ray and what not, the whole thing is stupid because we've got a bunch of studios sticking to one format, and another bunch supporting another. I seriously hope to god that DVDs will still be around for a while like VHS still is, otherwise i'm going to have to buy a Blu-ray and a HD-DVD player to watch a couple of movies... I might as well stick to piracy, screw the studios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter¥ Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 People who already own an HDTV are waiting for the HD movies. Game developers need more space on their discs. Hence, new format which provide movies in HD and more space. Simple as that. DVD movies aren't going anywhere, as long as they're being sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reticulatingsplines Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 People who already own an HDTV are waiting for the HD movies. Game developers need more space on their discs. Hence, new format which provide movies in HD and more space. Simple as that. DVD movies aren't going anywhere, as long as they're being sold. Have you checked your TV for HDMI certification? Because the vast majority of widescreen "HD-ready" TV's don't have it. They use a PC link for 1080i, but it's dependant on your harware having the same connections. If not, you'll have to buy a new one if you want anything better than SD resolution. The player will automatically downgrade the quality to SD. DVD is not dead, you fool. It's the biggest consumer item in history. Get your facts straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter¥ Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 I don't remember preaching the impending death of the DVD anywhere in that post. And I don't have a HDTV nor do I plan on buying for a quite a while, but I'm sure there are a few people out there who would like to watch their movies in HD, considering how much money was probably spent. Supply and demand. I don't see what everyone is getting so pissed off about. If you don't want to watch movies in HD, buy the freakin DVD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reticulatingsplines Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 I don't remember preaching the impending death of the DVD anywhere in that post. And I don't have a HDTV nor do I plan on buying for a quite a while, but I'm sure there are a few people out there who would like to watch their movies in HD, considering how much money was probably spent. Supply and demand. I don't see what everyone is getting so pissed off about. If you don't want to watch movies in HD, buy the freakin DVD. Entirely my bad. I misread your post. And I got righteous about the whole damned thing. Again, apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exkabewbikadid Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 I certainly hope it isn't the case that DVDs just disappear in favor of pushing HD on the consumer, unless the industry wants to see the biggest drop in sales history of course. More than likely, DVD will remain the dominant format for at least the next 5 years. I say that becasue the latest statistics I've read say that more than 50% of the US population still owns (and is still buying) SDTVs (here's an e-source with similar stats). Personally, I'm glad new formats are showing up now so any issue with lack of space won't be an issue at all when the extra storage is needed. It sounds silly to think that games could top 10GB, but they're easily pushing on 5 gigs now, which would have seemed silly just a few years ago. It's a shame that the holographic storage theories have never panned out, because then I'd be singing about how HD could suck my ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_-playero-_ Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 People who already own an HDTV are waiting for the HD movies. Game developers need more space on their discs. Hence, new format which provide movies in HD and more space. Simple as that. DVD movies aren't going anywhere, as long as they're being sold. Have you checked your TV for HDMI certification? Because the vast majority of widescreen "HD-ready" TV's don't have it. They use a PC link for 1080i, but it's dependant on your harware having the same connections. If not, you'll have to buy a new one if you want anything better than SD resolution. The player will automatically downgrade the quality to SD. DVD is not dead, you fool. It's the biggest consumer item in history. Get your facts straight. You are right, but some people just like to have the best there is around, and hd video is now the best around. That is reason enough to change to HD-DVD or Blu-Ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter¥ Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 I don't remember preaching the impending death of the DVD anywhere in that post. And I don't have a HDTV nor do I plan on buying for a quite a while, but I'm sure there are a few people out there who would like to watch their movies in HD, considering how much money was probably spent. Supply and demand. I don't see what everyone is getting so pissed off about. If you don't want to watch movies in HD, buy the freakin DVD. Entirely my bad. I misread your post. And I got righteous about the whole damned thing. Again, apologies. Ish all good. *hugz* It's a shame that the holographic storage theories have never panned out, because then I'd be singing about how HD could suck my ass. From the future.. "Holographic Discs to replace HD-DVD within 1 year." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smellton Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 (edited) Read This Xbox 360 might be getting an external Blu-Ray player, and as said: "We don't know which will win -- HD-DVD or Blu-ray. But because we've gone with an external form of device, we can remain compatible with changes to the situation in the future. However, Sony cannot. If Blu-ray wins, it will probably be a great chance for Sony. However, if Blu-ray loses, Sony will suffer great harm." So Microsoft can't lose, but if Blu-Ray fails, virtually PS3 dies. Edited January 11, 2006 by Smellton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exkabewbikadid Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Read This To summarize, Microsoft will sit on the fence untill a winner has emerged, and then offer a drive for the succeeding format. Given the uncertainy of the outcome, it's no wonder Microsoft refrained from putting an HD-DVD drive in the 360. I kept thinking Microsoft had f*cked up by not supporting a newer format, but it's actually the smartest move they could have made. The only downside is that 360 owners are left to purchase a costly external drive if they want the additional support. Edit - yeah, it's no wonder Microsoft all of the sudden decided to support HD DVD. They want the PS3 to fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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