muppetmaster Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 I know we have karma and that's all fine and dandy, but how about a member-reputation rating system too? The system would be peer to peer and members can rate one another. Members can [+] or [-] points on a person's profile or on display when they post, allowing other members to get a rough idea on what kind of member they are. The reputation could be below the position of the member's karma. Reputation logs could also be used to see the reasons for the change in reputation, these could be visible for public view as well as the person. Other forums have used this system to great success. I apoligise if this has been suggested before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sauron Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 That would be pretty funny, but I'm sure people will come in here and be all "ZOMG IT WILL PROMOTE ELITISM!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-shaDow Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 ZOMG IT WILL PRO... NVM They had this at another forum I used to go to. They canned it in like a week. Especially on this forum, sh*t would just get out hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppetmaster Posted January 3, 2006 Author Share Posted January 3, 2006 The system could probably be limited like the topic rating system. One rating of one person per member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExcuseMe Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 This could probably work. It would let people see what kind of a member you are. Also, it would help gangs decide whether they want you in their gang or not, without having to go through everyone of your posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vin. Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Last I remember about this suggestion was, the staff don't want to promote negativity to the forums. I like the idea, but I agree it would promote negativity, esspecially to a forum for Grand Theft Auto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindancer Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 The system could probably be limited like the topic rating system. One rating of one person per member. If such a system was introduced here, it would be abused. You limit the voting to one per member, but what's stopping member A signing up to 15 new accounts just to rate a member up or down. And what if you rated someone once as a -, then 3 weeks later you want to change you opinion to a +. Then they are stuck with that - rating. So in conclusion. Naaaaaaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelly Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 One forum which I'm a member for requires you to positive or negative someone for a specific post, and to write a reason. If the point is just a 'generally a kewl dude lol' or 'generally an idiot lol' it'd be dealt with. This way, people would get points for actually being helpful/actually being a real c*nt, instead of turning it into a popularity contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppetmaster Posted January 3, 2006 Author Share Posted January 3, 2006 The system could probably be limited like the topic rating system. One rating of one person per member. If such a system was introduced here, it would be abused. You limit the voting to one per member, but what's stopping member A signing up to 15 new accounts just to rate a member up or down. And what if you rated someone once as a -, then 3 weeks later you want to change you opinion to a +. Then they are stuck with that - rating. So in conclusion. Naaaaaaa The same could be said for the topic rating system. You could possibly limit the person to 5 votes for 5 different people every day. They can also only use their vote on the same person once every month or so. If someone truly is a good member, it's unlikely they'll get voted down unless they have good reason. Even if they're voted down and they deserve a good reputation, it's likely someone else will vote positive instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaj. Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Even still muppetmaster, it's too much effort into something that may or may not create problems. And it most likely would create problems. There are just too many things that could go wrong. With a community this large, is doesn't matter how many things you put into it to try and make it work, there's always some stupid f*ck that'll ruin it for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppetmaster Posted January 3, 2006 Author Share Posted January 3, 2006 It actually wouldn't be very hard to implement. IPB already has a builtin feature similar to my suggestion. It'd mostly require just some tuning and editing of permission masks I imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svip Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 The system could probably be limited like the topic rating system. One rating of one person per member. If such a system was introduced here, it would be abused. You limit the voting to one per member, but what's stopping member A signing up to 15 new accounts just to rate a member up or down. And what if you rated someone once as a -, then 3 weeks later you want to change you opinion to a +. Then they are stuck with that - rating. So in conclusion. Naaaaaaa Fix: Limit the rating for users over 100 posts, so creating new accounts would not be in their best taste. Allow users to change their vote. Example on a good system: http://msghelp.net/reputation.php?uid=48778 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Difficulty Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Svip summed it up. I personally love the idea. Just a way to show what kind of rep you have out there. Svip's example was good too, shows who gave you the +/- rep. I like it.- Party on Garth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roald Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 The system could probably be limited like the topic rating system. One rating of one person per member. If such a system was introduced here, it would be abused. You limit the voting to one per member, but what's stopping member A signing up to 15 new accounts just to rate a member up or down. And what if you rated someone once as a -, then 3 weeks later you want to change you opinion to a +. Then they are stuck with that - rating. So in conclusion. Naaaaaaa Nah, nah. First of all, making a mod that disallows multiple account per IP is a piece of cake. Second of all, it shouldn't work like that at all. For instance, I post up something very useful, people give me a positive rating for it. To keep it easy, this gives me the following stats: Reputation: 100 Rep Power: 10 Having a reputation power of 10 allows me to give another member 10 'Reputation' points. So, the one that gave me repuation before had a 'Rep Power' of 100. Giving someone a negative rating should decrease their 'Reputation' with 5, wich is half of my 'Rep Power' total. To make sure one member doesn't deplete your Reputation to 0, there's this: - You can only give a rating for a post once, regardless of it being positive or negative. - You can only give rating to one member in particular every x days. - You must spread reputation to x other members before being allowed to rate the same member again. - You should have at least 100 posts. This way, people that mean a lot to the community get a lot of 'Rep Power', so it actually pays of for them... This whole idea is somewhat similiar to vBulletin's built-in reputation mod, and it works fine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svip Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 No, no "rep power", no voting for the same member again. Allowing people to change their vote to negative or positive ( or neutral ) depending of what it was. I agree with the limitation used by a post amount. It cannot be a simple mod, it needs to an entire new system, it could have these features, folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roald Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 No, no "rep power", no voting for the same member again. Allowing people to change their vote to negative or positive ( or neutral ) depending of what it was. I agree with the limitation used by a post amount. It cannot be a simple mod, it needs to an entire new system, it could have these features, folks. 'Rep Power' would allow the most respected members to have more more influence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svip Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 No, no "rep power", no voting for the same member again. Allowing people to change their vote to negative or positive ( or neutral ) depending of what it was. I agree with the limitation used by a post amount. It cannot be a simple mod, it needs to an entire new system, it could have these features, folks. 'Rep Power' would allow the most respected members to have more more influence. Huh? What?! One vote per member per member. I can vote for every member, once. End of story, period. I may change my vote for the members I have voted for. I don't believe in "rep power", then rather hand out "rep stars" a bit like karma stars, but by handed out by members able to hand them out ( because they have earned them ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-0 Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 the privledge would be abused and I think that a member should be here for a certain amount of time and posts to get this privledge like 4 months and a hundred posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 From what mm is talking about, it reaks of cheapo ProBoards karma systems. From what Svip is talking about, it resembles the eBay rating system, which i am quite fond of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayhem- Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 isnt this like rep systems on vBulletin boards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottae Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 I love the idea and I checked out Svip's rating over at the Messenger Plus! Forum. I don't think rep power is a very good idea, it'll mean people will get stuck up about how they are respected. It also seems a bit too complex for the forum to handle. If there is a 100 post limit, then I could see people spamming to get to 100 posts, it would be better if they were here maybe a month or 2. I haven't seen the vBulletin Board, I'll go and check it out. In conclusion: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Well if its a time limit instead of a post limit, whos to say they won't make an account, let it sit there for a while til 2 months is up, then use it to vote? Do that over and over and you got mayhem again. Post count system is a lot better, as it requires people to use the account, instead of signing out and waiting. - GTAuron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 How about a combination of both? You have to have been here for a while, say, a month and have 200 posts. That way only people who want to be in gang will pursue it. - Holmes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaj. Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 How about a combination of both? You have to have been here for a while, say, a month and have 200 posts. That way only people who want to be in gang will pursue it. - Holmes Huh? What about being in a gang? Anyways, if implemented properly, I could see this becoming a good addition to the forums. It'd have it's flaws, as with everything, but it sounds like an excellent idea. Now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*gta star* Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 If such a system was introduced here, it would be abused. You limit the voting to one per member, but what's stopping member A signing up to 15 new accounts just to rate a member up or down. And what if you rated someone once as a -, then 3 weeks later you want to change you opinion to a +. Then they are stuck with that - rating. I totally agree with Raindancer. Its a no for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svip Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 If such a system was introduced here, it would be abused. You limit the voting to one per member, but what's stopping member A signing up to 15 new accounts just to rate a member up or down. And what if you rated someone once as a -, then 3 weeks later you want to change you opinion to a +. Then they are stuck with that - rating. I totally agree with Raindancer. Its a no for me. If you weren't too fast to post, you would realise we have already summen up a lot of fixes to the issues Raindancer mentions. Besides, you haven't nothing to share with the topic other than you say "no". And to be honest; who cares about your opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 As Svip just demonstrated, while this may be a fun little extra (and potentially even useful) in certain cases, it's definitely not suited for here. For a significant proportion, the members here simply need to grow up and start posting in a decent, respectful manner. As it stands, you can easily tell what someone's reputation is - the same thing posted by a supposedly well respected member gets a completely different response from if it were posted by someone less popular. Petty grudges from long in the past, trivial spelling or grammatical errors and even complaints about appearance (signature, font, size, colour, etc.) all find their way into totally separate and irrelevant topics. If you don't like someone, so what? Keep it to yourself or if it bothers you that much, there are private ways of exchanging e-bitchslaps. Otherwise the many other members drifting around feel the need to fit in so they take the easy option and join in. Perhaps when we can all post a topic knowing that we'll either get a civilised response or none at all, then we can start adding another section for personal opinions on other members. Until then, I can't see any benefit in giving more ammunition to those that enjoy trolling around the forums. And to be honest; who cares about your opinion? We do. And since we decide whether or not to implement suggestions, whereas you just whine and bitch, how about you learn when to shut up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svip Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 Fred, personally I do not wish to have such a system installed for my own wishes, I just suggested what could be done in case if you wanted to add it. This "user" sure didn't take much account to look into what happened in said topic, and thus his post became somewhat useless. Because he only agreed with Raindancer, who's post seemed outdated for the discussion at hand. I am not saying that he is wrong, I am just feeling he shared anything with the topic. I know when to shut up, and this was certainly not the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*gta star* Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 You always seem to be the one that has to have the 'smart' answers. That doesn't work, you even got told by fred. Personally, I agree with Raindancer totally, surely I'm not doing anything wrong by agreeing with what someone says. Oh and fred, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT-1 Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 Svip, perhaps fred was talking about your unnecessary arrogance rather than your actual idea. This is a suggestion forum, people are entitled to their own opinion, if you don't agree then just ignore it instead of making a pointless arrogant comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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