KiLLFesT Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Sony Computer Entertainment Worldwide Studios president Phil Harrison has claimed that Microsoft's Xbox 360 "doesn't have true HD functionality," saying that consumers seeking a HD experience will have to wait for the PS3 to arrive. Speaking exclusively to GamesIndustry.biz this week, in an interview to be published tomorrow, Harrison described the Xbox 360 as "a lot better than their [Microsoft's] first introduction to the console business," but questioned the console's claim to being a High Definition device. "The true definition of HD is the three elements of the HD value chain - the display, the content and the hardware to play back that content," he explained, "and PlayStation and Sony is the only organisation that has all three bits of the value chain together." "As you well know," he continued, "the Xbox 360 doesn't play high definition movies and doesn't have true HD functionality - PlayStation 3 is the only format that has 1080-progressive, which is the true definition of HD, so it's really premature to be talking about the HD era." "The HD era really only starts when we are on the market," he concluded. Harrison's comments refer to the fact that the PlayStation 3 is the only next-gen console which will support the top end of the HD standard, the 1080p resolution, and also the only device which will be able to play high definition movie content, thanks to its support for Blu-Ray discs. "High definition as far as the consumer is concerned means high definition movies, which means Blu-Ray disc, and that is the reason that people will buy high definition displays coupled with a player that is capable of playing movies and games - which is obviously PlayStation 3," he claimed. Also in our exclusive interview, Harrison discussed other aspects of Sony's attitude to the next-generation console from its key rival, Microsoft, along with the company's ongoing plans for the PlayStation 2 and PlayStation Portable platforms and his belief that the games retail model is set to undergo a major shift in the coming years. Source If anyone owns a 360, share your thoughts on how the system looks and what not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanillainy Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Lol the rivalry, coming form sony that is. But every knows the ps3 is the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War-Lord Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 ^^ True so true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_-playero-_ Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 We are in the doors of 8 months full of rivalry articles between MS and Sony. Yet, ^that is so true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. H. Hunter III Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 360 doesn't look like an oval that never quite panned out....that is all La famiglia è tutto The strength of a family, like the strength of an army is in its loyalty to each other.~ Mario Puzo ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papanesta Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Yaaaaaaaaaaaawn. Thassright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alternative Child Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Sony will always beat Micro$oft and always will. I don't own a 360, I wouldn't ever, but good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dup Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Frow the people who still have a normal Tube Tv... Makes no difference to at least 60% of the market. HDTV's are expensive and so are the consoles. Its either or, and Id rather get the entertainment over a higher res. When I do upgrade to HDTV I will be happy with the difference no matter if its "true" or not. any hardcore gamer with have both the PS3, Xbox360 and a Pc to benefit from the varying unique titles each platform will produce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Difficulty Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Tech pats himself on back for being right by waiting for a PS3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PresidentKiller Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Sony will always beat Micro$oft and always will. I don't own a 360, I wouldn't ever, but good point. And you don't own a regular Xbox either... The PS3 and the Revolution are not even out yet, but you people just can't miss the opportunity to say something sucks over and over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papanesta Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Tech pats himself on back for being right by waiting for a PS3 papanesta slaps Tech because he is a fanny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Difficulty Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Technical Difficulty realizes Paps just called him a car[/americanwedding] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMT Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 der ps3 wil b betr cos i sor a news areticl on da be;bebcee an it sed so --- Hmm. Sounds to me like Sony are stiring the sh*t. All we need is a reply from Microsoft causing even more trouble and Nintendo taking the oppertunity to stick their ore in. Oh what joy. Pacrel Focre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exkabewbikadid Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Frow the people who still have a normal Tube Tv... Makes no difference to at least 60% of the market. HDTV's are expensive and so are the consoles. Its either or, and Id rather get the entertainment over a higher res. When I do upgrade to HDTV I will be happy with the difference no matter if its "true" or not. any hardcore gamer with have both the PS3, Xbox360 and a Pc to benefit from the varying unique titles each platform will produce. The only sensible reply. What a surprise. Although, MS did f*ck up by not supporting 1080p. I'd say in the next 2-3 years 1080p displays will be the norm when buying an HD display. As far as I can tell, MS wanted to not only beat Sony to the punch, but they also wanted to catch the 2005 holiday season. As a result, they pushed a console onto the market that doesn't do HD-DVD or 1080p. But the 360 isn't doomed so long as the games are plentiful and don't suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_-playero-_ Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 But the 360 isn't doomed so long as the games are plentiful and don't suck. Who's saying the 360 is doomed. We are all saying that the ps3 will be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exkabewbikadid Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 But the 360 isn't doomed so long as the games are plentiful and don't suck. Who's saying the 360 is doomed. We are all saying that the ps3 will be better. Darrrrrr. I never said that anyone said that they had said that it might be doomed. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Killer Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 But everyone knows the ps3 is the best Agreed. Last time it was head to head with the PS2 and the XBox, but this time, the PS3 will be way better than the 360. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_-playero-_ Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 But the 360 isn't doomed so long as the games are plentiful and don't suck. Who's saying the 360 is doomed. We are all saying that the ps3 will be better. Darrrrrr. I never said that anyone said that they had said that it might be doomed. Just saying. Arrrrr, no problem.* *But the ps3 is still better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA3Freak-2001 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 I am with Dup, doesn't matter to me as I don't have the display devices capable of such HD eye candy and the entertainment wins out for me. This is why I am happy sitting on the sideline of the new wave of consoles and wait until the dust has settled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exkabewbikadid Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 I am with Dup, doesn't matter to me as I don't have the display devices capable of such HD eye candy and the entertainment wins out for me. This is why I am happy sitting on the sideline of the new wave of consoles and wait until the dust has settled. Yep. I can't see myself purchasing an HDTV for at least another 4 years, or at least until 1080p displays are affordable... which won't be untill probably another 4 years. The main selling point for me is purely about the games. And to all the tards buying into the Sony hype machine once more, HA! Anyone who's read anything by anyone in the technological know knows that theoretical numbers like "teraflops" amount to jacksh*t in the real world. Sony has all the children believing words like "supercomputer" power. If that's true, then the damn thing better find it's way to the top 500. I will credit Sony for supporting 1080p and likely bringing an affordable Blu-Ray player to the masses. And if the PS3 ships with Linux installed, well that will simply rock the f*ck out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Kostelecky Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 I think Microsoft made a big mistake by rushing to the market too quickly with the 360. From what I've seen, it doesn't look as good as the next generation should. And it's not good for the video game industry to have a new machine every 5 years. Developers need more time to make better games in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cran. Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 What a load of senceless crap. Who cares about 1080p? Most TV's don't even support it, and I really don't care much about being to play HD movies. How is HD movies going to be better than DVDs? It's good enough, and it doesn't need to be any better. Geez, come on, i've still got a 68cm CRT Phillips TV, it's great. Even has a built in subwoffer Well, this is what you get from sony waiting too long to release their console. @Xcommunicated hell, I don't see myself getting a HD capible TV for another 5-10 years, I really don't see the pros of spending 5 grand on a 42" plasma or whatever. I'll only get one when my old TV dies. Am I the only one that's going to be playing my Xbox360 though a $20 17" CRT monitor? HD gaming on the cheap I agree with Dup. @Craig I'll give you that, but remeber the games will look better as time progresses. I still think the Xbox360 is a big step for console gaming, High Def or not. Come on man! Anti Aliasing!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter¥ Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 This topic makes me want to cry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmSixTeen Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 This topic makes me want to cry. Same, until I read Dup's post followed by another couple. Personally, I'm aiming for either a monitor capable of using VGA cables with that isn't crap, or a nice HDTV around 32" (£800~), hopefully within a year. I was shocked at actually seeing PGR3 in motion on my 32" SDTV in the livingroom, it was much better in motion than I had been led to believe from all tha naysayers. To be honest though, as long as games like PGR2/3 keep being brilliant in terms of gameplay, then I'll be choosing them. The only thing I think Microsoft are truely foolish of is not developing their console along either tha HD-DVD or Bluray standards, as games will inevitably require those amounts of data and by limiting those developers to 9GB Microsoft are effectively increasing development time and cost, and reducing capabilities. That said, I'm loving my 360 so far though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlianAnt Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 (edited) M$ says that their gona start supporting HD-DVDs and Blue Ray disks in the future. I say lies. However, most of you people dont own an xbox or a 360 and are bad mouthing it to hell and back about how it doesent support stuff you dont even have. I used to be a fanboy of the PS2, yes. And of course, that was because I didnt own an xbox at the time. After my second PS2 failed, I decided to go for an xbox and have been much more happy with it. Im extreamly skeptical about the PS3 and how their saying that the cell processors gona be able to do all this amazing stuff. Untill I see Killzone 2 graphics in my hands on my PS3, I find it damn near impossible without the PS3 costing an arm and a leg. But if its true, Ill shut up and let you PS3 people run around saying how much better it is. Untill then, buy a 360 and come by me again. Otherwise, its not fair to be bad mouthing the things you dont have. Edited December 15, 2005 by AlianAnt Metal up your ass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just another thug Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 I was playing CoD for the 360 at my local besbuy. It didn't impress me very much. I mean it was the equivalent to what has been on the PC for 2 or so years. I didn't get to play with all the extras that the system includes, but from a mere graphical standpoint it looked good, but nothing more than the PC. It also looked a little smudgy. The gameplay was sure fun, none the less. I think I will wait for all systems and decide for myself, but I wouldn't mind a 360. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSA Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 This topic is hillarious. The PS3 isn't even close to being done, let alone out yet. Any one person speaking on which console will be superior is an idiot. I have an XBOX 360, and HDTV, and all I can say is that it is one hell of a mind blowing experience. If you refuse to buy one just because SONY says that it sucks, then you my friend are a disgraceful tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmSixTeen Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 I was playing CoD for the 360 at my local besbuy. It didn't impress me very much. I mean it was the equivalent to what has been on the PC for 2 or so years. I didn't get to play with all the extras that the system includes, but from a mere graphical standpoint it looked good, but nothing more than the PC. It also looked a little smudgy. The gameplay was sure fun, none the less. I think I will wait for all systems and decide for myself, but I wouldn't mind a 360. Didn't impress me much in the store either, looked the same as you said.. Turns out the HDTV wasn't set up properly. It's on par with the best PCs available today. Even on my SDTV at home, PGR3 looks sex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSA Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 I was playing CoD for the 360 at my local besbuy. It didn't impress me very much. I mean it was the equivalent to what has been on the PC for 2 or so years. I didn't get to play with all the extras that the system includes, but from a mere graphical standpoint it looked good, but nothing more than the PC. It also looked a little smudgy. The gameplay was sure fun, none the less. I think I will wait for all systems and decide for myself, but I wouldn't mind a 360. Didn't impress me much in the store either, looked the same as you said.. Turns out the HDTV wasn't set up properly. It's on par with the best PCs available today. Even on my SDTV at home, PGR3 looks sex. Yeah most stores didn't set the kiosks up correctly. On the A/V cable that plugs into the back there is a very small switch that switches the output from TV to HDTV. Since they were probable all rush jobs no one noticed to set them up properly, and if you try to look at an SDTV signal on HDTV, trust me it looks horrifying. Since I played COD2 on my HDTV with proper setup it is surely just as good if not better looking than the PC version, and yes I have both, and they were both played in 1920x1080 resolutions since my PC is setup to run on my TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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