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What do you thnk of Global Warming?

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shaunleeds

What do you think of Global Warming? on a scale of 1 to 10 how bad does it affect you and how do you feel about it happening? It annoys me because it will be a pretty much permanant affect and will maybe destroy human life on the planet.

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The_man

Hahahaha. If something were to destroy all human life, I think I would be more than annoyed. biggrin.gif

 

I rate it a 1, with one being the lowest on the care-o-meter.

Honestly, I for one welcome global warming, it might get rid of these horribly cold winters were having here in connecticut, and in all of New England.

 

And if global warmin is as "bad" as they say, and the icecaps do melt, it will get rid of those annoying coastal people. You know, those fruity wierdos in San Fran and these Asses here on the east coast. Of course the giant pandas will have to be relocated from san diego and the bronx zoo. Gasp! The only pandas in America are on the COASTS! There MUST be some kind of conspiracy against the giant pandas. Its like the evil factory owners who caused global warming in the first place want the pandas to drown! I bet they will go to china to kill the only wild pandas left after the ones protected in the zoos drown.

 

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K^2

First of all, I'm not sure there even is an effect of human activity on global temperatures. The average temperatures on this planet have been oscilating for hundreds of thousands of years before humans managed to put anything more than smoke and farts into atmosphere. Ever heard of Ice Ages? Nottice that they ended? Compared to the increase in temperature when that happened, the slight increase in average temperatures arround the world we observe now are absolutly insignifficant.

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Cheshire Cat

Well hears the problem.

 

Earth is pretty adaptable to changes in the natural enviroment. As every action has a reaction, things tend to balance themselves out.

 

The problem is, we have set off two possible chain reactions that will actually be VERY detrimental to our existence.

 

Either we pump so much greenhouse gases into the atmosphere that water starts evapourating at a much higher rate causing the atmosphere to get warmer and evapourate more water and get warmer some more untill eventually our planet's atmosphere becomes a boiling hot gaseous mess like venus.

 

OR we stop greenhouse output all together, and all the plants that have thrived because of our vast output of greenhouse gases begin to leach the greenhouse gases that WE NEED, causing our planet to cool rapidly and resulting in a second ice age.

 

So, the question really is: thong bikini or feather down jacket?

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K^2
Either we pump so much greenhouse gases into the atmosphere that water starts evapourating at a much higher rate causing the atmosphere to get warmer and evapourate more water and get warmer some more untill eventually our planet's atmosphere becomes a boiling hot gaseous mess like venus.

 

OR we stop greenhouse output all together, and all the plants that have thrived because of our vast output of greenhouse gases begin to leach the greenhouse gases that WE NEED, causing our planet to cool rapidly and resulting in a second ice age.

Ah, but as you yourself said, there are regulation mechanisms in place. Two most important ones are the word's oceans and the pollar ice caps. World oceans work as thermal baths. Due to a whopping 4.2 J/g specific heat capacity, water keeps temperatures from dropping too low during witnters or rising too high during summers. The polar ice caps are even more powerfull. As soon as temperature begins to rise, some of the polar ice melts, absorbing a lot of heat. And when it cools down, the pollar ice caps grow, releasing heat. This way, oscilations in planet's heat intake do not cause particularly high oscilations in climate. This responce, of course, takes time, and if heat oscilations enter in resonance with this response system, bad things happen, id est, Ice Age. But these are exactly the kind of things that prevent this planet from overheating and going the way of Venus or Mars. So untill we completely melt the ice caps, we are fine.

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The_man

Yeah, arent the "experts" now saying that we are more likely to have another ice age, even with all these greenhouse gases were emitting? Also, it would be impossible for us to stop producing any greenhouse gases at all.

 

I for one dont belive that global warming is specifically a human created effect.

 

And correction, the other pandas are at a zoo in washington dc, not in the bronx. But the zoo is near a river which is ocean fed, so, there is still a conspiracy to drown pandas!

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Ah, but as you yourself said, there are regulation mechanisms in place. Two most important ones are the word's oceans and the pollar ice caps. World oceans work as thermal baths. Due to a whopping 4.2 J/g specific heat capacity, water keeps temperatures from dropping too low during witnters or rising too high during summers. The polar ice caps are even more powerfull. As soon as temperature begins to rise, some of the polar ice melts, absorbing a lot of heat. And when it cools down, the pollar ice caps grow, releasing heat. This way, oscilations in planet's heat intake do not cause particularly high oscilations in climate. This responce, of course, takes time, and if heat oscilations enter in resonance with this response system, bad things happen, id est, Ice Age. But these are exactly the kind of things that prevent this planet from overheating and going the way of Venus or Mars. So untill we completely melt the ice caps, we are fine.

 

We (humans in general) are realeasing chemicals into the atmosphere that we know have tendencies to make temps rise. No one can say what is going to happen with any acuracy, but we should be open minded and aware of what's going on. After all, our oceans can only handle so much, and we do know that these chemicals will aid in rising temps. What will happen many be another thing, but we should not shut global warming out of our minds.

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Breaking Bohan

I think the science behind this is dubious. However, I am certain that this concept is being used to manipulate the public, especially by politicians, to the benefit of none.

 

Do I believe the potential threat posed is enough to overhual the infastructure of the entire country? No

 

We should really use coal, wind, solar, nuclear ... and the oil we have here - not in the middle east.

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I think the science behind this is dubious. However, I am certain that this concept is being used to manipulate the public, especially by politicians, to the benefit of none.

 

Do I believe the potential threat posed is enough to overhual the infastructure of the entire country? No

 

We should really use coal, wind, solar, nuclear ... and the oil we have here - not in the middle east.

Jesus Spaghetti Christ. Nice bump, you probably didn't notice the date. And this is certainly a dead topic.

 

 

 

 

Global Warming? 3.

 

A part of planet-evolution. Like how the dinosaurs had gotten exitincted. All good things come to an end unfortunately.

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Breaking Bohan
I think the science behind this is dubious.  However, I am certain that this concept is being used to manipulate the public, especially by politicians, to the benefit of none.

 

Do I believe the potential threat posed is enough to overhual the infastructure of the entire country?  No

 

We should really use coal, wind, solar, nuclear ... and the oil we have here - not in the middle east.

Jesus Spaghetti Christ. Nice bump, you probably didn't notice the date. And this is certainly a dead topic.

 

 

 

 

Global Warming? 3.

 

A part of planet-evolution. Like how the dinosaurs had gotten exitincted. All good things come to an end unfortunately.

You just can't win - use the search feature, bump the topic. Anyways, I hope it's not a "dead topic" since it is being used to justify numerous policies in the upcomming election. People may want to ponder it some more ---

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Well, I don't think there's a real problem with bumping an old topic, I'm just almost sure that younger ones are laying around too...

 

However, in case this one gets revived...

 

I have to agree with K^2, that whatever evidence we have that suggests humans are the cause of the climate shift just isn't really that convincing in the face of all nature has contributed, and without a tremendous amount of conclusive evidence that humans are the contributors. Most scientific data simply suggests that we might be the cause of the climate change.

 

 

However uncertain global warming, and how much humans contribute to it is, the use of the issue for political gain is definitely high. Not only just for political issues, but we now see huge marketing trends such as "buying green", and I think that industry has even gotten in on the game, by purporting to investors that they have the least amount of emissions, etc.

 

I think that the effect the fear of global warming has on society is far more prevalent than global warming itself.

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Machida

If your asking how it effects my area than that would be about a 9 or 10 without exaggeration. I farm land in the South of Scotland, our summers here come earlier, hotter but a lot shorter. It's shifted the whole working year to an extent where we're doing jobs much earlier and at a much quicker pace. It also affects how long we have to winter animals, meaning we have to feed them on bought feeds rather than letting them graze in the fields. Costing us more. It also effect animal growth, young animals raised inside will grow a lot slower than animals raised outside. This again shifts back the time we can sell livestock meaning we have to wait longer to get money.

 

If your asking me to range my concern of global warming I'd say it's about a 3 or a 4. The only concern I have is due to the fact that it's shifting our working year around a bit. But the countryside is easily adaptable as are we. Infact I'm quite looking forward to all you city weasels panicing because you might be forced to cycle to work and leave the car behind!

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Tony Mozzarelli 80

There is absolutely no conclusive evidence to suggest that the reltively small amount of carbon emmisions that humans are responsible for, is having any significant effect on global temperature.

 

It's all designed for them to impose 'Green' taxes. I mean they bump up the prices of plane tickets to make people pay for their carbon emmisions. I'm sorry how the f*ck can that possibly help? people who need to fly will do so anyway, and even if they didn't and the plane only fills up halfway, are they going to hold the plane back till it's full? no they're going to fly anyway and emmit the exact same amount of Co2. and all the while they're building new runways.

 

Haha they can't charge us for inhaling oxygen but if we want to exhale it's going to cost us. It's just more f*cking thievery that's all it is, and they actually manage to make people believe that it's beneficial.

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If your asking me to range my concern of global warming I'd say it's about a 3 or a 4. The only concern I have is due to the fact that it's shifting our working year around a bit. But the countryside is easily adaptable as are we. Infact I'm quite looking forward to all you city weasels panicing because you might be forced to cycle to work and leave the car behind!

Yeah, living in the country, my main method of transport is bike, So when the petrol dries up, I suppose I could deal with it. Humans will adapt.

 

My concern? None.

On Friday I looked at the Guardian, and the headline read 'Get ready for up to 4C global temperature rise'.

I laughed a sadistic laugh as I looked out my window and saw the reain coming down relentlessly in temperatures of 15C. In August. In Cornwall.

 

In all seriousness, I Just wish Global warming would hurry up.

It's not a joke, I am sick of the summer weather being only 10C better than in the winter!

I appreciate temperatures may become unbearable in Meditarreanian Countries or whatever, But hey, you win some, you lose some.

They only thing I'll miss is snow.

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macorules94

omg stupid humans think they will live forever.

 

One day humans will be extinct and you have to get over it!!1

 

Dinosours didnt live forever!!??!?!?

 

We wont either......what ever happens happens

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Machida

 

 

One day humans will be extinct and you have to get over it!!

 

 

..um?

 

 

Anyway, I think global warming will effect the way we live our life in the future. To say it's going to wipe out the human race is pretty far fetched.

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GSXRSpeed

 

One day humans will be extinct and you have to get over it!!

 

 

..um?

 

 

Anyway, I think global warming will effect the way we live our life in the future. To say it's going to wipe out the human race is pretty far fetched.

Humans wiped out completely?

 

Not likely in the near future. But there are many scenarios, Global Warming being one, that have the potential of reducing our numbers to a fraction of current populations and drastically change our lifestyles.

 

Global Warming though, on my Worry-Meter registers as 2-3, meaning low. If it is happening, I am not convinced that humans are causing it since there is evidence going way back of radical climate change.

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Otter

You can't worry about the inevitable, you can only prepare yourself for it. The fact is, whether it's a natural process, or hastened thanks to industrialization (Before Carbon emissions, is was the Ozone layer, which we've obviously done a good job of f*cking up) it's upon us. Goofy schemes to cool the earth, or blind apathy will only result in massive financial setbacks.

 

I think even the most frightening accepted models allow plenty of time for us to get our acts together.

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Breaking Bohan
You can't worry about the inevitable, you can only prepare yourself for it. The fact is, whether it's a natural process, or hastened thanks to industrialization (Before Carbon emissions, is was the Ozone layer, which we've obviously done a good job of f*cking up) it's upon us. Goofy schemes to cool the earth, or blind apathy will only result in massive financial setbacks.

 

I think even the most frightening accepted models allow plenty of time for us to get our acts together.

If global warming is so real where's the warming?

- It's "global" of course.

I see, well, I don't see how this affects me?

- Well, since you've been warming the planet, and putting the world at risk, we must do everything possible to prevent damage to the planet. You must pay "carbon" tax, and so we will tax all your travel and energy consumption, in hopes of minimizing the damage to our childrens planet.

 

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Digital Murders

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Manbearpig.

 

Wisconsin is full proof that global warming is b.s.

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HolyGrenadeFrenzy

Carbon Tax excuse big time.

 

And the whole solar system is warming up.....and that means something very special about Sol.

 

The evidence is in and our Planet has warmed up less than the other planets in the system by comparision to distance which means that WATER is our friend.

 

How much that matters with the Sun warming up more is hard to say given a time reference of consequence.

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Otter
You can't worry about the inevitable, you can only prepare yourself for it. The fact is, whether it's a natural process, or hastened thanks to industrialization (Before Carbon emissions, is was the Ozone layer, which we've obviously done a good job of f*cking up) it's upon us.  Goofy schemes to cool the earth, or blind apathy will only result in massive financial setbacks.

 

I think even the most frightening accepted models allow plenty of time for us to get our acts together.

If global warming is so real where's the warming?

- It's "global" of course.

I see, well, I don't see how this affects me?

- Well, since you've been warming the planet, and putting the world at risk, we must do everything possible to prevent damage to the planet. You must pay "carbon" tax, and so we will tax all your travel and energy consumption, in hopes of minimizing the damage to our childrens planet.

I can't understand how this little Socratic dialog is a response to what I posted... care to explain?

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Mike Tequeli

I'd say it's between 3-4. I believe in global warming for the simple reason that the vast majority of scientific consensus (not politicians) says that we are causing the Earth's warming. Also we have to look to the north to really see the effects, hell the Inuit know somethings up with or without scientists telling them.

 

 

But then again, people exaggerate the dangers of it, and their solutions are often pretty weak. Economists around the world say that the best way to approach this isn't throwing money at it because that would cost trillions, but to build an economy around it, or something like that, look it up. I still believe in energy conservation and cutting back on oil consumption slowly for other reasons as well. For starters lets get Nuclear Power in place of hydrocarbon based power, I also think curly light bulbs are great.

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Breaking Bohan

 

You can't worry about the inevitable, you can only prepare yourself for it. The fact is, whether it's a natural process, or hastened thanks to industrialization (Before Carbon emissions, is was the Ozone layer, which we've obviously done a good job of f*cking up) it's upon us.  Goofy schemes to cool the earth, or blind apathy will only result in massive financial setbacks.

 

I think even the most frightening accepted models allow plenty of time for us to get our acts together.

If global warming is so real where's the warming?

- It's "global" of course.

I see, well, I don't see how this affects me?

- Well, since you've been warming the planet, and putting the world at risk, we must do everything possible to prevent damage to the planet. You must pay "carbon" tax, and so we will tax all your travel and energy consumption, in hopes of minimizing the damage to our childrens planet.

I can't understand how this little Socratic dialog is a response to what I posted... care to explain?

That was my bad Otter - I guess I didn't realize I was writing something as a response to you - my apologies.

 

On topic - they really will just use "global warmning" to "protect" us all by raising taxes, fees, fines, etc. for everything that uses gas, oil, coal, etc.

Also - "cap and trade" is total bullshat - its the biggest tax of all - and if you think your local energy company will be willing to pay millions of dollars for "carbon credits" just so it can operate, we can all expect them to pass the expense right along to the end user, us!

 

@ MIKE - yeah those bulbs are great, unless you break one of them in your house, then it will be contaminated with mercury! Which is toxic.

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Wanted Assailant

 

I have to agree with K^2, that whatever evidence we have that suggests humans are the cause of the climate shift just isn't really that convincing in the face of all nature has contributed, and without a tremendous amount of conclusive evidence that humans are the contributors. Most scientific data simply suggests that we might be the cause of the climate change.

 

 

Wait, so people living is causing Global Warming?!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's it!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mass Genocide.

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Breaking Bohan

OMFG THERE"S A TORNADO IN NEW YORK CITY RIGHT NOW (via CNN)

 

Could this crazy weather pattern be the result of Global Warming and excessive greenhouse gasses?! I think so, they're probably going to get what they deserve: thus, if they made too much gas, then they will be destroyed, but if not, then not.

 

People, save the planet .... burn your cars!

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OMFG THERE"S A TORNADO IN NEW YORK CITY RIGHT NOW (via CNN)

 

Could this crazy weather pattern be the result of Global Warming and excessive greenhouse gasses?! I think so, they're probably going to get what they deserve: thus, if they made too much gas, then they will be destroyed, but if not, then not.

 

People, save the planet .... burn your cars!

 

Tornado Warning Issued For Parts Of NYC, N.J.

Flash Flood Warnings Issued Throughout Tri-State Area

NEW YORK (CBS) ― The National Weather Service has issued a tornado warning for Manhattan, the Bronx and Bergen County in New Jersey until 5:45 p.m., and for Westchester County until 6 p.m.

 

A flash flood warning has also been issued for Manhattan and the Bronx, and Bergen and Hudson counties in New Jersey until 7:15 p.m.

 

A severe thunderstorm warning has also been issued for Westchester, Rockland, Fairfield and Bergen counties until 5:45 p.m. A flash flood warning has been issued in Westchester, Rockland, Putnam and Orange counties until 7 p.m.

 

In addition to the tornado this storm is capable of producing quarter size hail and destructive straight line winds. The safest place to be during a tornado is in a basement. Get under a workbench or other piece of sturdy furniture.

 

If no basement is available seek shelter on the lowest floor of the building in an interior hallway or room such as a closet. Use blankets or pillows to cover your body and always stay away from windows.

 

If in mobile homes or vehicles evacuate them and get inside a substantial shelter. If no shelter is available lie flat in the nearest ditch or other low spot and cover your head with your hands.

 

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/tristate.torn...g.2.796575.html

 

 

 

I've seen a tornado before, with all of the wind it gets pretty intense. The streets covered in debris.

 

Clearly mother nature is pissed.

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colt .45 killer

I dearly hope this isnt the proverbial pin through the bubble, but im going to pop it.

 

The worst possible estimates for temperature rise are still lower then the average temperatures of the 1500s. yes thats right, we MIGHT if worst comes to worse and we get so hot we all die....*takes deep breath* well we might just get some warm weather for the first time in 500 years.

 

Oh btw, I doubt the absolute truth of all of this, but i did some research on the internet and youtube which I think holds some weight if your going to discuss global warming, i think isntead of a reiteration, il just drop a link.

 

 

The first in a series of five ive never watched before, im going to link some others that i have sorry if both series say the same thing.

 

 

 

 

 

Conclusion,

 

In relativity the globe is WARMING, if you reference it against our last period of cold, however while we work in 12 month cycles the earth is proven to work on much longer cycles, saying the earth is about to freeze in november and that we will all melt in june sounds stupid to all of us becuase we know the 12 month cycle.

 

my .25 cents says its most likely a long earth cycle, or that sunspot theory.

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Ronnyboy
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Manbearpig.

 

Wisconsin is full proof that global warming is b.s.

What are you implying?

 

2. Until I see true evidence that we are the cause, I am going to keep on trucking (literally)

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