GTAGodfather Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 We know that Toni Cipriani killed a made man 5 years before the start of LCS. 1987- Tommy Vercetti kills Sonny Forelli <Somwhere Inbetween> - Toni Cirpriani Kills a made man 1993-4 (San An. Intro DVD)- Ken Rosenburg trys to contact tony. 1998 - Toni Returns to Liberty City. Is the made man who Toni killed Tommy Vercetti. 1) Tommy did work for the forellis making him an enemy of the leones. 2) Toni is probably a "made man" by the time Toni kills the "made man" Will we find out in the next game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooster1739 Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 Could be,but your numbers are wrong,Tommy kills Sonny in 1984, San andreas intro dvd is set in 1992 or before,and Tommy indeed kills Sonny so he must be a hero for the Leones... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eichhorn Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 Could be,but your numbers are wrong,Tommy kills Sonny in 1984, San andreas intro dvd is set in 1992 or before,and Tommy indeed kills Sonny so he must be a hero for the Leones... I´m not sure if I remember right, but I don´t think Tommy was a Mafiamember. PLZ correct me if I am wrong,I played GTA Vice only once and that when it came out, so I don´t know the story too weel. BTW is there any GTA fansite with a overlook over GTA 3´s Vice´s and San An´s Story??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAGodfather Posted November 12, 2005 Author Share Posted November 12, 2005 I cant remember the date of Vice City but im sure Tony was Mafioso because he was a Forelli i assume he made his own Mafia front the the "Vercetti Gang". (I cant remember to clearly because my friend took it and my mum wouldnt let me get another one) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooster1739 Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 He surely became one when he took over the whole Vice city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney385 Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 yes but at the beggining of the game, wasn't there a cut seen where Tommy was talkin to Sonny and Sonny said something like "Hey Tommy doing time for the Family aint no easy task" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eichhorn Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 yes but at the beggining of the game, wasn't there a cut seen where Tommy was talkin to Sonny and Sonny said something like "Hey Tommy doing time for the Family aint no easy task" THX Now I remember that Drugdealthing in the beginning, that gets srewed up. Where Tommy says: No Sonny I don´t got the Money. Now I realise that was Sonny Forelli!!!I think I´ll have to play this Game again sometime, my memory is a bit messed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tongue of Colicab Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 Could be,but your numbers are wrong,Tommy kills Sonny in 1984, You're both wrong. 1986. No, it wasn't Tommy. Tommy was not a made man. A made man is a follower, Tommy...didn't do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpt.pinguin Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 aint it a bit weird? i mean: tommy killed sonny in years 80 cj killed sonny in sa time somethings not right here exept if he gets killed twice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tongue of Colicab Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 aint it a bit weird? i mean: tommy killed sonny in years 80 cj killed sonny in sa time somethings not right here exept if he gets killed twice? CJ didn't kill Sonny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multiformat Gamer Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 Vice City was set in 1986. Tommy Vercetti killed Sonny Forelli and made plenty of friends. Tommy was never a made man from the start and unless tony ciprani flew over to vice city then no its doubhfull it was tommy. My guess is he killed some guy that hasnt appeared in any gta games yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gohan__14 Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 Meybi he killed one of the Triads like Ranfaly or Wozzie.(he hates triads in gta 3) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooster1739 Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 My memory is a little messed up too,it was 1986,you´re right,my mistake... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kippers Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 We know that Toni Cipriani killed a made man 5 years before the start of LCS. 1987- Tommy Vercetti kills Sonny Forelli <Somwhere Inbetween> - Toni Cirpriani Kills a made man 1993-4 (San An. Intro DVD)- Ken Rosenburg trys to contact tony. 1998 - Toni Returns to Liberty City. Is the made man who Toni killed Tommy Vercetti. 1) Tommy did work for the forellis making him an enemy of the leones. 2) Toni is probably a "made man" by the time Toni kills the "made man" Will we find out in the next game? Rosenburg tries to contact Tommy not Tony 習うより慣れろ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooster1739 Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 We know that Toni Cipriani killed a made man 5 years before the start of LCS. 1987- Tommy Vercetti kills Sonny Forelli <Somwhere Inbetween> - Toni Cirpriani Kills a made man 1993-4 (San An. Intro DVD)- Ken Rosenburg trys to contact tony. 1998 - Toni Returns to Liberty City. Is the made man who Toni killed Tommy Vercetti. 1) Tommy did work for the forellis making him an enemy of the leones. 2) Toni is probably a "made man" by the time Toni kills the "made man" Will we find out in the next game? Rosenburg tries to contact Tommy not Tony It´s Rosemberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PresidentKiller Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 We know that Toni Cipriani killed a made man 5 years before the start of LCS. 1987- Tommy Vercetti kills Sonny Forelli <Somwhere Inbetween> - Toni Cirpriani Kills a made man 1993-4 (San An. Intro DVD)- Ken Rosenburg trys to contact tony. 1998 - Toni Returns to Liberty City. Is the made man who Toni killed Tommy Vercetti. 1) Tommy did work for the forellis making him an enemy of the leones. 2) Toni is probably a "made man" by the time Toni kills the "made man" Will we find out in the next game? Where do you get those numbers? Tommy Vercetti killed Sonny Forelli in 1986. It says that year at the beginning of the game: Marco's Bistro, Liberty City - 1986 "The introduction" takes place before what happens in San Andreas. At the beginning of San Andreas, it says: Francis Intl. Airport, Liberty City - 1992 And Ken Rosenberg isn't calling Toni, he's calling Tommy (Vercetti). And Toni is not a "made man" until the mission "Making Toni" in LCS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mxyzptlk Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 Thank you PresidentKiller.... this topic was a disaster.... so many mistakes till now. Silly noobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da gta master Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 We know that Toni Cipriani killed a made man 5 years before the start of LCS. 1987- Tommy Vercetti kills Sonny Forelli <Somwhere Inbetween> - Toni Cirpriani Kills a made man 1993-4 (San An. Intro DVD)- Ken Rosenburg trys to contact tony. 1998 - Toni Returns to Liberty City. Is the made man who Toni killed Tommy Vercetti. 1) Tommy did work for the forellis making him an enemy of the leones. 2) Toni is probably a "made man" by the time Toni kills the "made man" Will we find out in the next game? Rosenburg tries to contact Tommy not Tony It´s Rosemberg Rosemburg? Where the hell did you get that from? Its Ken Rosenburg. He was right, you were wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PresidentKiller Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 Thank you PresidentKiller.... this topic was a disaster.... so many mistakes till now. Silly noobs Yeah, it's a disaster. Look below... Rosemburg? Where the hell did you get that from? Its Ken Rosenburg. He was right, you were wrong. IT'S ROSENBERG!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da gta master Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 Thank you PresidentKiller.... this topic was a disaster.... so many mistakes till now. Silly noobs Yeah, it's a disaster. Look below... Rosemburg? Where the hell did you get that from? Its Ken Rosenburg. He was right, you were wrong. IT'S ROSENBERG!! Oops one wrong letter Its harder with the E and the U to tell because they sound the same then you say it. Ive never actually seen his name in writing (maybe a long time ago so i forgot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanarki Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 aint it a bit weird? i mean: tommy killed sonny in years 80 cj killed sonny in sa time somethings not right here exept if he gets killed twice? I think your thinking about the guy CJ killed when he went to Liberty City. I'm pretty sure it wasn't Sonny though, some other guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney385 Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 wasn't woozie a mountain cloud boy though? i just remember Cesar saying Thats another Mountain Cloud boy down C.J on peir 69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Jr Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 this is the guy CJ killed in gta san andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadeInThe80s Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 Tommy was a kingpin not a made man. His organization was more like a big time criminal empire, not a traditional Mob family even though he was Italian. He wasn't connected to any of the families anymore in LC so why would anyone care if he was whacked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrrhus Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 You're all stupid. (PresidentKiller, Mxyzptlk and MadeInThe80's are the only exceptions to the previous statement.) Does it really f*cking matter who Toni Cipriani killed? I would've thought that adults (then again very few of you would be adults, more like 13 or 14 year olds that shouldn't even be playing GTA in the first place) wouldn't need to have every single detail spelt out for them. Toni killed a made man (on either the Forelli's or the Sindacco's side) which meant he had to leave Liberty City for a while and that's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpetDweller Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 BTW is there any GTA fansite with a overlook over GTA 3´s Vice´s and San An´s Story???Yes. Here's one I made earlier: GTA StorylineNow includes LCS. --------------------------- Opening post with corrections: "We know that Toni Cipriani killed a made man 5 years before the start of LCS." Someone once told me that a preview website had it as four years, but is it ever a specified time during the game or from official sources? 1987 1986 - Tommy Vercetti kills Sonny Forelli<Somwhere Inbetween> - Toni Cirpriani Kills a made man 1993-4 1991-2 (San An. Intro DVD)- Ken Rosenburg trys to contact tonyTommy. 1998 - Toni Returns to Liberty City. Is the made man who Toni killed Tommy Vercetti? 1) Tommy did work for the forellis making him an enemy of the leones. 2) Toni is probably a "made man" by the time Toni kills the "made man" History Lesson: 1971 - 20 year old Tommy works for the Forellis. He is set up and goes to prison for 15 years. 1986 - Tommy is released and goes back to work for the Forellis. He then breaks away from Forrellis creating his own Vercetti Gang. Giorgio Forelli is on Trial but Tommy persuades the jurors to let him off. He Kills Sonny Forelli. 1991-2 - Tommy will not accept Rosenberg's call. 1992 - CJ kills lots of unspecified Forellis. 1993-4? - Toni kills a "Made Man". 1998 - Toni returns to LC, kills lots of Forellis. I don't remember if Franco Forelli gets killed or not. 2001 - Claude kills Mike "Lips" Forelli as well as a few more. One definition of "Made man" can be found here: Link Members initiated into this organization were referred to as made men and were under the protection of their family. A hit, or assassination, of a made man had to be preapproved by the leadership of his family, or retaliatory hits would be made, possibly inciting a war. -------------- Did Toni kill Tommy? I guess it's possible, but unlikely because it could just as easily be anyone else. Also - It probably would have been mentioned. The "made man" is just a plot device for explaining why Toni is starting over in his old City. You can speculate all you want, but I doubt Rockstar even know. If they want to pick it up in the future then they've left it open to do what they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrrhus Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 Did Toni kill Tommy? I guess it's possible, but unlikely because it could just as easily be anyone else. Also - It probably would have been mentioned.The "made man" is just a plot device for explaining why Toni is starting over in his old City. You can speculate all you want, but I doubt Rockstar even know. If they want to pick it up in the future then they've left it open to do what they want. I also don't think that Toni would've killed Tommy because: 1) Tommy isn't a "made man" because he is the leader of the Vercetti Gang. 2) The Vercetti Gang seems to have stayed in Vice City (why would they move anyway? They've already got a highly profitable setup) because they haven't been mentioned in any other games. 3) Because of #2 the Vercetti Gang isn't interfering with either Leone or Sindacco operations. The only family from Liberty City that I think would have an interest in the Vercetti Gang would be the Forellis because Tommy killed Sonny (and his goons). I think that if the next PSP GTA is "Vice City Stories" and set after 1986 then we'll be seeing the Vercetti Gang again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eichhorn Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 You're all stupid. (PresidentKiller, Mxyzptlk and MadeInThe80's are the only exceptions to the previous statement.) Does it really f*cking matter who Toni Cipriani killed? I would've thought that adults (then again very few of you would be adults, more like 13 or 14 year olds that shouldn't even be playing GTA in the first place) wouldn't need to have every single detail spelt out for them. Toni killed a made man (on either the Forelli's or the Sindacco's side) which meant he had to leave Liberty City for a while and that's that. Don´t get upset b0oy they are just thinking about it, speculation is one of the things. wich drive this forum. So don´t bitch around everybody should have the right to post thoughts, without being mocked.OKAY? @carpetdweller: THX a lot I´ll have a look at your sum-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrrhus Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 Don´t get upset b0oy they are just thinking about it, speculation is one of the things. wich drive this forum. Who says that I was getting upset over the retarded theories that people have? I sure didn't. So don´t bitch around everybody should have the right to post thoughts, without being mocked.OKAY? Freedom of speech works both ways, if people are allowed to post their retarded and illogical theories then I am allowed to point out that said theories are stupid and if anyone actually cares that they've been insulted over the Internet then they have some serious issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eichhorn Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 Don´t get upset b0oy they are just thinking about it, speculation is one of the things. wich drive this forum. Who says that I was getting upset over the retarded theories that people have? I sure didn't. So don´t bitch around everybody should have the right to post thoughts, without being mocked.OKAY? Freedom of speech works both ways, if people are allowed to post their retarded and illogical theories then I am allowed to point out that said theories are stupid and if anyone actually cares that they've been insulted over the Internet then they have some serious issues. That´s not what I wanted to say, altough your interpretation of freedom of speech is absolutly right. I´m just thinking pissing at people isn´t constructive in any way. Look at carpetdwellers post, I am sure he feels the same about those kiddies as you, but he keeps posting constructive stuff. BTW I am pissed off by n00bs too, but I don´t feel like posting this in every crappy topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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