THE GAME™ Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 hi, I was wondering which is better Firefox or Internet explorer and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knife Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 FireFox. Then again it's up to you. But I woudl say firefox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmSixTeen Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 Firefox for sure in my opinion, Internet Explorer simply doesn't do anything I'd like it to bar simply browsing the internet, and what it does do it still does badly. Firefox is a lazy person's dream, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All this Crap Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 Everybody dislikes IE as I have noticed, but I use it. I have had no problems with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
segosa Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 101 things that the Mozilla browser can do that IE cannot. In this case, Mozilla = Firefox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_travis_s Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 101 things that the Mozilla browser can do that IE cannot. In this case, Mozilla = Firefox. That list is so damn old, much of that IE can do (or, will be doing shortly). I prefer Firefox, but just remember, may web developers still write pages that work completely only in IE. So, you can't permantely escape IE... but the amount I use it is so small, it doesn't really matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
segosa Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 That list is so damn old, much of that IE can do (or, will be doing shortly). IE6 has had no new features since that list was created. Looking through it I can't see any features IE6 can do. In IE7 a lot of the things on that list will be possible, but that's not for a while, and we're talking about now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWEETSAPRIK Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 Personally I use Firefox and prefer it over IE. The only thing I ever use IE for now is Windows update. It's really up to you to choose which you prefer though. I don't frequent any sites that Firefox doesn't show properly, but if I did then I'd have a reason not to use it. I originally downloaded Firefox only because of .PNG transparency, but then I found a few features that I now can't live without. Then I found a few extensions that added even more features that I can't live without. And I know this won't last for long since as it becomes more popular people will begin to write more programs specifically for it, but as of right now malware/adware/spyware is an issue. Back when I used IE I would run Spybot, AdAware, Hijackthis, and antivirus scans at least once a week. Every time I did the scans I'd find at least a few of these files/programs during each scan. I could open IE right now, hit three sites, run those scans, and find some things during those scans. Since using Firefox I haven't had one single thing turn up in any of those scans. It's actually making me a bit lax since never finding anything makes the scanning seem like a waste of time. That'll change soon enough though. Really there is no perfect browser though, it depends on what you use it for, what sites you hit, etc. Your best bet would be to download Firefox and try it, then determine which you like better. You could also give a few others a try, I've only used Firefox and IE, but I hear some of the others are good too. PяopagaиdaIиc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaNorris. Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 Firefox > Internet Exploder Why? Well the PNG transparencys faster loading speeds, ability to have tabs inside the box and not on the taskbar and alot more.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svip Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 Firefox is better than Internet Explorer. But Firefox being better than Opera? Not that sure. First of all, Firefox might be open source, but it's still no excuse for the amount of memory it uses. On my machine, almost no matter how many tabs I have open it uses 146MB of my RAM, while Opera having 12 ( or something ) tabs open ( with the same links I used in Firefox ) only used 96MB, however, when you get high up in tabs, Firefox might be the superior, but it's also a bit rare I even get there. Rendering pages have become extremely fast in Firefox 1.5, so I don't think Opera can win on that any longer. Some is also concerned about the amount of security flaws found in Firefox in the bast 12 months ( 40 to be exact ), while only 14 ( or simliar ) was found in Internet Explorer in the same amount of time. However, this could be for the following reasons: A. Firefox ( and Mozilla ) is newer ( and thus younger ) than Internet Explorer, and some flaws that IE discovered early on, was overseen by Mozilla, as they were not known ( well, they were, but forgotten ). B. Because of being Open Source, the "hackers" ( or developers / end-users ) have better possibilities to look in the source to check where there were some holes. Thus easier made, while Internet Explorer, you still need to try some things, because actual hitting the correct combination. Why I use Firefox over Opera? Well, accident, I like Opera just as much as I like Firefox, Firefox just happened to be my browser of choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Most people prefer firefox because it's faster, for some weird reason. At least that's what the people I know tell me. I don't notice, I have cable. <3 Tricycle Propaganda Monster FBI Connection <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikensrs Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 That list is so damn old, much of that IE can do (or, will be doing shortly). IE6 has had no new features since that list was created. Looking through it I can't see any features IE6 can do. In IE7 a lot of the things on that list will be possible, but that's not for a while, and we're talking about now. It says that IE doesn't do popup blocking. I thought that in sp2 an integrated popup blocker was released with an ie update, but I may have my wires crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soul Survivor Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 I would pick FireFox, its faster than IE. IE just brings pop up after pop up after pop up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_travis_s Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 That list is so damn old, much of that IE can do (or, will be doing shortly). IE6 has had no new features since that list was created. Looking through it I can't see any features IE6 can do. In IE7 a lot of the things on that list will be possible, but that's not for a while, and we're talking about now. It says that IE doesn't do popup blocking. I thought that in sp2 an integrated popup blocker was released with an ie update, but I may have my wires crossed. Nope, your wires aren't crossed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuroki Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Firefox is better than Internet Explorer. But Firefox being better than Opera? Not that sure. First of all, Firefox might be open source, but it's still no excuse for the amount of memory it uses. On my machine, almost no matter how many tabs I have open it uses 146MB of my RAM, while Opera having 12 ( or something ) tabs open ( with the same links I used in Firefox ) only used 96MB, however, when you get high up in tabs, Firefox might be the superior, but it's also a bit rare I even get there. Rendering pages have become extremely fast in Firefox 1.5, so I don't think Opera can win on that any longer. Some is also concerned about the amount of security flaws found in Firefox in the bast 12 months ( 40 to be exact ), while only 14 ( or simliar ) was found in Internet Explorer in the same amount of time. However, this could be for the following reasons: A. Firefox ( and Mozilla ) is newer ( and thus younger ) than Internet Explorer, and some flaws that IE discovered early on, was overseen by Mozilla, as they were not known ( well, they were, but forgotten ). B. Because of being Open Source, the "hackers" ( or developers / end-users ) have better possibilities to look in the source to check where there were some holes. Thus easier made, while Internet Explorer, you still need to try some things, because actual hitting the correct combination. Why I use Firefox over Opera? Well, accident, I like Opera just as much as I like Firefox, Firefox just happened to be my browser of choice. Opera f*cks up alot of websites that I've seen work with every other browser. And what, are you against Firefox now? Is it becoming too mainstream for your anti-everything-succesful commie mentality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soul Survivor Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 I just recomend people getting firefox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikensrs Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Firefox is better than Internet Explorer. But Firefox being better than Opera? Not that sure. First of all, Firefox might be open source, but it's still no excuse for the amount of memory it uses. On my machine, almost no matter how many tabs I have open it uses 146MB of my RAM, while Opera having 12 ( or something ) tabs open ( with the same links I used in Firefox ) only used 96MB, however, when you get high up in tabs, Firefox might be the superior, but it's also a bit rare I even get there. Rendering pages have become extremely fast in Firefox 1.5, so I don't think Opera can win on that any longer. Some is also concerned about the amount of security flaws found in Firefox in the bast 12 months ( 40 to be exact ), while only 14 ( or simliar ) was found in Internet Explorer in the same amount of time. However, this could be for the following reasons: A. Firefox ( and Mozilla ) is newer ( and thus younger ) than Internet Explorer, and some flaws that IE discovered early on, was overseen by Mozilla, as they were not known ( well, they were, but forgotten ). B. Because of being Open Source, the "hackers" ( or developers / end-users ) have better possibilities to look in the source to check where there were some holes. Thus easier made, while Internet Explorer, you still need to try some things, because actual hitting the correct combination. Why I use Firefox over Opera? Well, accident, I like Opera just as much as I like Firefox, Firefox just happened to be my browser of choice. Opera f*cks up alot of websites that I've seen work with every other browser. And what, are you against Firefox now? Is it becoming too mainstream for your anti-everything-succesful commie mentality? I haven't had any issues with opera so far. I'd also like to note that pointing out areas where firefox could be better doesn't mean he's against firefox, merely that he sees room for improvement. I don't see why that means you have to turn on him with this "with us or against us" mentailty either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exkabewbikadid Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 IE in itself sucks, but Avant puts the IE engine to damn good use. In fact, I've never had AB crash or lock up whereas IE on its own does it a lot. Not to mention, the AB extension pack makes my life worth living. Edit, Firefox sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf68k Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 146MB?? Firefox using that much ram sounds like either too many extensions and themes installed or a bad extension or theme. I've got a few extensions installed, no themes, and it's using maybe 10-15MB after it's loaded. After that I've never really checked. And the only extension for me that is causing any kind of slow down and maybe using more ram is Adblock because the filter list is so big. On my Mac with FF is using about 60MB of ram but then I also have more extensions on here than on my PC and the Adblock filters is double what the PC has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svip Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Opera f*cks up alot of websites that I've seen work with every other browser. And what, are you against Firefox now? Is it becoming too mainstream for your anti-everything-succesful commie mentality? No. I am just saying that Firefox still have some "catching up" to do. Do you think I would use Firefox if I didn't like it? I love it. I like it more than Opera, because of some small details that Opera doesn't have. I know Opera f*cks up a lot of websites through it's rendering, but despite that, Opera is a fairly good browser, if you could mix some of the features in Opera with some of the features in Firefox, you would have a pretty damn good browser. @wolf68k: No, it has always been 146MB, not matter the amount of extentions I've use. I don't use any theme either, I use my native window envoriment. It could be because I run Firefox through bash, and not as a real application. But all in all, it's not causing me that lot troubles. Just saying, that Firefox have a problem with RAM, and I know many sources who agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmSixTeen Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 IE in itself sucks, but Avant puts the IE engine to damn good use. In fact, I've never had AB crash or lock up whereas IE on its own does it a lot. Not to mention, the AB extension pack makes my life worth living. I used to use Avant, before I changed to Firefox.. If you like the appeal of Firefox but still want to use IE, it's a great choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE GAME™ Posted September 24, 2005 Author Share Posted September 24, 2005 Im gonna try using Firefox now for a bit, see what its like, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf68k Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 I don't use any theme either, I use my native window envoriment. No I meant Firefox Themes, or skins if you prefer. Sounds like you thought I mean system themes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuroki Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Firefox is better than Internet Explorer. But Firefox being better than Opera? Not that sure. First of all, Firefox might be open source, but it's still no excuse for the amount of memory it uses. On my machine, almost no matter how many tabs I have open it uses 146MB of my RAM, while Opera having 12 ( or something ) tabs open ( with the same links I used in Firefox ) only used 96MB, however, when you get high up in tabs, Firefox might be the superior, but it's also a bit rare I even get there. Rendering pages have become extremely fast in Firefox 1.5, so I don't think Opera can win on that any longer. Some is also concerned about the amount of security flaws found in Firefox in the bast 12 months ( 40 to be exact ), while only 14 ( or simliar ) was found in Internet Explorer in the same amount of time. However, this could be for the following reasons: A. Firefox ( and Mozilla ) is newer ( and thus younger ) than Internet Explorer, and some flaws that IE discovered early on, was overseen by Mozilla, as they were not known ( well, they were, but forgotten ). B. Because of being Open Source, the "hackers" ( or developers / end-users ) have better possibilities to look in the source to check where there were some holes. Thus easier made, while Internet Explorer, you still need to try some things, because actual hitting the correct combination. Why I use Firefox over Opera? Well, accident, I like Opera just as much as I like Firefox, Firefox just happened to be my browser of choice. Opera f*cks up alot of websites that I've seen work with every other browser. And what, are you against Firefox now? Is it becoming too mainstream for your anti-everything-succesful commie mentality? I haven't had any issues with opera so far. I'd also like to note that pointing out areas where firefox could be better doesn't mean he's against firefox, merely that he sees room for improvement. I don't see why that means you have to turn on him with this "with us or against us" mentailty either. IF YOU ARE NOT WITH US YOU ARE AGAINST US. I like edging Svip on, and he knows it. I use Opera as well if Firefox starts being a bitch for whatever reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartey Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Firefox is so much better, i lag alot with IE, don't lag at all with Firefox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead_Eagle Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 FireFox > IE Everyone has their own opinions. Some may use IE, some FF. Just use whatever you like better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svip Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 I don't use any theme either, I use my native window envoriment. No I meant Firefox Themes, or skins if you prefer. Sounds like you thought I mean system themes. I know you meant Firefox theme, and I told you I use the native window theme. Which is a theme that bases on the graphical engine arounds it. Or you could say; no theme at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead_Eagle Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Well I just updated. Besides the bugs, there is really no difference. Oh well, at least I still updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercie Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 I have used five seven different browsers, including Mizilla, Firefox, Maxthon, Safari, Opera, IE6 and IE 7. Of all, my favoite is IE7, which at this point is an unrealistic argument as it is not publicly released. The runner up in my mind is IE6 only because it seems faster to me that Firefox. However, I have a 7 MB/s connection and a super computer. Then Maxthon takes third because of it's nice interface, everyhting seems natural. Comming in fourth is Opera because of it's interface and ability to make things easy. #6 Firefox. On two different spectrums, I dislike firefox. Browsing: Sure, you have tabs, I however, like taskbar items rather than 100 pixel tabs. png transparency is nice, bit I have never noticed it to be all too usefull, as those who use pngs need to realise that only 4% of people can see them. Besides, to make the forums look nice, I have disable sigs and avatars anyhow, so even here there is no difference. It seems to be a mite laggy to me, both in scrolling and normal browsing. The settings, while generic, can be nice, but I found no assistance to my problem. Web Dev: Like the article previousily posted stated, Firefox resizes pixel locked text. For a site that is a specific size, such a thing can really mess things up. IE uses pt as it's scalable size and px as a locked size, something that comes in super handy. Screw a keyboard shortcut, I have never been that lazy. I have done my worst, an inline frame in an inline frame and by default, FF will not display that second inline frame, both repiticious and not. It depends on who you are, how simple you are, how lazy you are, and what you are used to. Firefox seems only a nerd trend to me. People bash others, but what they do not realize is it is a matter of opinion. That is like me telling someone that Lord of the Rings was better than the Origional Starwars. Try them both out, then make your opinion. If you ask the public, you get a hundred different answers mostly from poeple so bent on their belief that they get arrogant. Silly intraweb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoSNightmarE Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Firefox>IE. this is known because for one, IE has so many security holes and i just didnt like the feel. but however, i do like Opera. and since theyve gone free i use it a lot more. its just a good browser. but for some reason i always return to Firefox. its like crack for web browsers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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