segosa Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 No elaboration on the title necessary... http://www.opera.com/free/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svip Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 Now Firefox have something to live up to, now it just can't use the "but Opera is not free." Now probably the only version would work; "but Opera is not Open Source." I love Opera in it's own sort of way. Despite I disagree with the way it handles lists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knightmare Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 Those who bought it recently must feel like sh*t. Thanks -shaDow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
segosa Posted September 20, 2005 Author Share Posted September 20, 2005 Those who bought it recently must feel like sh*t. Anyone who bought it within the last 30 days can get a full refund. However, they still give premium support to those who've paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane5 Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 I actually used Opera before I used FireFox, but quickly switched. My opinion is... FireFox > Opera > > > > > Internet Explorer Opera has potential. And it's not a bad browser. I just love FireFox so much more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magical_trevor Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 Opera for Windows Mobile still isn't free- they didn't give out serial codes for it during that party thingy they had either. grrr ninja edit- I just looked at teh site and the 'register now' banner that was under the download logo for the mobile version this afternoon is now gone, does that mean it's free? I don't wanna download it then find I still have to pay for it, since it'll probably take me liek an hour to download.. link, btw real edit- looks like you do still have to pay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenMillard Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 (edited) (I've neatened this up and turned it into a review of Opera 8.5 article for my site. It's easier to read the web page than this forum post, imho.) I'm really impressed with Opera 8.5 since it's taken a big step from uber-geek plaything and towards being an everyday browser with familiar funtionality. All the advanced stuff is still in there and the geeky folks (like me) can use the Tools > Appearences dialogue to put anything pretty much anywhere you want it. It's like having sex with a whore in that respect. (Sorry, was that a bit strong?) After a bit of fiddling, this is how Opera 8.5 looks for me: 1024 x 1075, 250kB. One of the big steps is that you can select the "Windows Native Theme" and it becomes a familiar and intuitive interface, inheriting whatever Windows theme you are using: 1024 x 1075, 178kB. Better still, they have radically simplified the menu items: 1024 x 1075, 215kB. Unlike previous versions of Opera which I have tried, this one loads up very speedily. It's infinitely faster than the glacially slow Netscape, it's a heck of a lot faster to start that Firefox and it's not much behind IE6 on this XP Home SP2 machine. Their interface layouts and use of function keys with Shift and CTRL for menu shortcuts are quite similar to the ones that I make. They use the ancient, simple standard for dialogue windows with controls down the left and manipulator buttons on the right, with OK and Cancel on the bottom right. All the dialogues resize but, unlike my programs (*gloat*) they don't have maximise and minimise buttons. If the form resizes, you might as well include those buttons because there's a chance the user will want to resize it to be massive and then would require a minimise button to click past it. The exception to this is the Tools > Advanced > JavaScript Console which resizes, has a maximise button and a minimise button. Makes it a lot more convieniant...except that the minimise button in the taskbar just moves it below the other windows. The minimise command button is the one which actually minimises it. Slightly odd, imho. However, it remembers the normal size - even if you close it from being maximised - which is something a lot of programs get wrong. It now combines a more native style of Windows tab than is used by Firefox with the familiar Multiple Document Interface controls found in other programs. Having a Window menu to manage very large numbers of tabs is very useful. Having various options of arranging or cascading windows can be useful. For example, tiling vertically allows price comparisons for products, although it requires some fiddly scrolling to find where you were. Most websites don't respond well to being tiled horizontally. However, now that Opera's user base is growing it starts to become a viable aspect of the argument that websites should be able to collapse below 750px, perhaps? The familiar Window menu of MDI applications: 1024 x 1075, 247kB. Holding down Shift and using the arrow keys makes for wonderful keyboard navigation. It simply moves the focus to the nearest element in that direction which can accept input, whether it's a form field or a hyperlink. I miss the Web Developer Bar and HTML Validator extensions that I have in Firefox, although there is a Opera Web Developer Bar (Opera Community topic) assembled from various bookmarklets, consoles and suchlike. Since getting the HTML Validator extension for Firefox, I've developed a habit of glancing at the status bar error and warning count for every page a I visit whilst typing a message, having a sip of water or just being nosey. I can't use Opera 8.5 on a full-time basis until that sort of functionality is present in it. It's certainly changed my view about it a lot; I now consider it a serious contender in the new browser wars. (EDIT) Nearly forgot to mention this: 1024 x 1075, 121kB. By pressing Shift+F11 (or using View > Small Screen) It's a version of their Small Screen Rendering model. It seems that it uses the SSR engine when a site uses layout tables and has no media="handheld" stylesheet. When a site uses <div> elements for layout and also has a suitable stylesheet, it just displays the page as normal but with the appropriate CSS used. In typical Opera attention to detail, the View > Full Screen mode will only use CSS defined in a media="projection" stylesheet. Very, very good piece of software, imho. Edited September 27, 2005 by Cerbera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_travis_s Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Thanks for the little "review" Cerb. That prompted me to give Opera 8 a try. I've tried various versions throughout the years, and damn, it's changed! My big goal was simple: reduce RAM usage. Firefox would regurarly go over 100 MB for me, I've heard Opera is much less (currently I'm at 30 MB... not too bad!) so hopefully I can keep the same features AND get less RAM usage. Plus, I think it looks nicer and definately loads WAY faster. No "real" adblock is a bummer, but Ad Muncher is kicking butt so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_-playero-_ Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 (edited) I downloaded Opera because of the anniversary offer... now it is free I just saw the "style" thing in the view menu... sort of new thing to me... (in a browser) ha, this is even better to browse pr0n... Edited September 28, 2005 by _-playero-_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anuj Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Yeah, I downloaded 8.5 when it came out. I was REALLY surprised. Not by any of the features or anything, but the fact that it was free and no "generic ads" was just leet. Now I don't have to ever use FF except for testing cross-browser issues. The RAM usage is a *bit* high, but f*ck it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_-playero-_ Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 (edited) The RAM usage is a *bit* high, but f*ck it. 60M.... holly f*ck! edit: question here, why when I say "Opera Read" voice command it reads things down the selection, but not the selection as it should do? Hell I need more help... the transfers window shows a "?" in size and remaining time when I'm downloading something... what the hell its going on? Edited September 29, 2005 by _-playero-_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdogg Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 I just started using it, and i must say im enjoying it more than FF. It's beocome my dominate browser. It's alot quicker, atleast on my machine. I just like the overall look and feel better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_travis_s Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 The RAM usage is a *bit* high, but f*ck it. Compared to Firefox? It's nothing. I'd reguarly see 100+ MB usage in Firefox. I rarely go over 70 with Opera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppetmaster Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Firefox is my bitch, but she's slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakin'Cuda Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 I have been using Opera for 2 months or so and I think it's great! While I was on FF, I would still get some annoying spyware, I have no spyware/viruses problems now though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_-playero-_ Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Downloads are still not working for me... Size=? Time=? %=? Can anyone help me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Voltage Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 (edited) Does Opera have any AD block plugin???, I like Opera, but firefox has the ad block. Edited October 9, 2005 by High Voltage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anus Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 High Voltage, Yes, Opera has an intergrated pupup blocker. By the way, I downloaded Opera recently and it's been f*cking awesome for me. No spyware/adware or any problem. I ditched FF for Opera. I absolutely love it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bond996 Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 High Voltage, Yes, Opera has an intergrated pupup blocker. By the way, I downloaded Opera recently and it's been f*cking awesome for me. No spyware/adware or any problem. I ditched FF for Opera. I absolutely love it . He is referring to the adblock extension, which, to my knowledge is not available for Opera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tornado Rex Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 (edited) High Voltage, Yes, Opera has an intergrated pupup blocker. By the way, I downloaded Opera recently and it's been f*cking awesome for me. No spyware/adware or any problem. I ditched FF for Opera. I absolutely love it . He is referring to the adblock extension, which, to my knowledge is not available for Opera. Oh snap. Also, read this discussion on the Opera Forums as it seems some people are trying to make the Adblock feature of Opera Tools more like the FF extension. Edit: Question. If I use the free key I got whenever they did that thing, do I get the Premium support? Nevermind, you don't. Edited October 10, 2005 by Tornado Rex ~ Proud Supporter of the Child's Play Charity! | GTANET + Child's Play ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tornado Rex Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 Bump (+double post) Opera 9.0 Preview 1 is out. http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=108345 Short list of new features from the site: support for XSLT, Canvas 2D, and Web Forms 2.0 rich-text editing on Web pages site-specific preferences a new IMAP back-end access to Opera's preferences via opera:config ~ Proud Supporter of the Child's Play Charity! | GTANET + Child's Play ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
segosa Posted October 27, 2005 Author Share Posted October 27, 2005 I tried 9.0 preview 1 and it kept crashing 10 seconds after I launched the browser so I went back to the latest stable release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tornado Rex Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 I tried 9.0 preview 1 and it kept crashing 10 seconds after I launched the browser so I went back to the latest stable release. Did you make sure to uninstall the old version before you installed the PR? ~ Proud Supporter of the Child's Play Charity! | GTANET + Child's Play ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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