UserPlay Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 ok my specs are(i'm pretty sure everyone knows it): Motherboard:MSI 845PE MAX2 Processor:Intel Pentium 4 2.40ghz(running on 2.79ghz) Video Card:ASUS N6200TD 128MB RAM:3x Kingston 256MB=768MB Sound Card:C-Media 8738/C3DX My problem is stuttering: It doesn't matter if i play on low or on very high i lose 2frames on very high the only thing that matter is resolution it's stuttering even on low and i'm pretty sure i can play GTA SA atleast on 1024x768 and on high so is there a solution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEEJAY123 Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 (edited) Has it always done this? I would recommend you take that 2.4ghz back down to normal operation speed. How much antialiasing are you using? Did you read my 'possible performance tweak' thread? Do all your other games play smoothly? Maybe your hard drive is not set to DMA mode? It could also have something to do with your soundcard. Are you sure you don't get a performance boost from setting visual fx quality to low? Does it stutter everywhere or only in certain places? I really don't recommned you enable visual fx quality as it has to render realtime shadows all over the screen. Oh yea and your best bet is to call tech support. Might your system benefit from a format and fresh install? You know... I've had stuttering problems before with Vice City and found it to be a problem with my video drivers, had to reinstall them a couple times to get it functioning properly. Even if you have 2GB ram and 3.8GHZ processor it will not make any difference on a 6200. I don't mean that it is not capable of playing SA, but that it problably will not run smoothly with too much antialiasing and realtime shadows too? Try turning those down. Just trying to help. Edited September 18, 2005 by SEEJAY123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vin. Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Also, if you have the latest drivers, try and roll them back one, and see if that helps. This has helped numerous people throughout these forums strangely enough. So give that a go and see if that works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UserPlay Posted September 19, 2005 Author Share Posted September 19, 2005 i tried turning it back to 2.4 but it's running even worse.I don't use antialiasing at all.Yes i read your possible tweak giude it doesn't help.Almost all my games are running smoothly and all my games ran smoothly until my old HDD died.And now with new one i have high FPS but it's always stuttering when there's a little bit more graphics.It's set to DMA i checked it million times.I just did fresh install.I'll try reinstalling drivers. Big Vinny i don't have any drivers to roll back this is the only istalled and it is 76.44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike0 Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Maybe defraging the HDD will help. Or sell this HDD and buy the one similar to your previous HDD if it means so much to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEEJAY123 Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 You said it runs even worse when you turned it back down to 2.4 ghz, how much worse? You might have a hardware problem over there. Could be the hard drive too. Maybe you have the 64-bit version of the 6200 wich is quite crap IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UserPlay Posted September 20, 2005 Author Share Posted September 20, 2005 I lose 4-7 frames with 2.4 and i have 64bit but i'm changing it for 128Bit in a few days,defraging wont help 'cause i reinstalled windows 4 days ago and i think the problem is: with new HDD i installed windows and staff myself and with the old windows was installed in service maybe i install something wrong or i didn't install something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UserPlay Posted September 27, 2005 Author Share Posted September 27, 2005 i have 6600 now hahahaha. but now i'm not laughing 'cause it's still laging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALeSsAnDrO Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 Man... as much as I love the GTA series, San Andreas really sucks. I mean, I read all posts regarding performance and people only talk about buying new graphics cards, new HDDs... this is ridiculous. This game will only perform well on medium hardware of 2 years from now... just like with GTA3, back when it was launched... what a joke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEEJAY123 Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 i have 6600 now hahahaha.but now i'm not laughing 'cause it's still laging Thats expected, as the jump from 6200 to 6600 is not so big. Guess it just wasn't meant to be dude. As for the above post, I agree, these people are so rich yet they can't even start working on the port a little bit early so that they have time to test it and fix bugs. Shame on you R* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UserPlay Posted September 28, 2005 Author Share Posted September 28, 2005 SEEJAY123 what did you mean by this: Thats expected, as the jump from 6200 to 6600 is not so big. 6600 is 2 times better than 6200 and should i reinstall GTA SA 'cause i don't gain any performance with 6600 i think i didn't reconize it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike0 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Delete gta_sa.set and then try. Put everything to LOW and frame limiter OFF. Then see if it works better. Also you can update video drivers if there are any new ones out. Also update sound to the latest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzySM12 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Man... as much as I love the GTA series, San Andreas really sucks.I mean, I read all posts regarding performance and people only talk about buying new graphics cards, new HDDs... this is ridiculous. This game will only perform well on medium hardware of 2 years from now... just like with GTA3, back when it was launched... what a joke! If you want a good quality game with quality graphics then you need to have a good quality PC. you cannot expect to run an up-to-date gate with out-of-date hardware. Anyway, back on topic. I would recomend not overclocking your processor at all or you can damage it if you dont do it correcty. As you said you braught it back and it was still no good, you may have damaged your processor running it overclocked if you did it too much or did not have sufficiant cooling for it. Also if you are running any programs like antivirus or antispyware then you should try turning them off. These programs run in the background and with programs that need alot of power (such as games) you will notice your PC running badly while they are on. I had this problem when I had Spyware Doctor running. I assume your talking about your graphics card when you say you have 6600. Well a jump from 6200 to 6600 is not that big as they are the same series and unless the new one has greater memory you relly wont notice much of a difference. I run a Gigabyte GeForce 6600 and my settings are all on\maxed exept for the resolution which I have set at 1024x746 (7xx, dont remember exactly what it is). If you are changing the resolution really high then that will cause massive lag in your game, so best to stick to the 1024x7xx one as you get basically spot on graphics at that anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALeSsAnDrO Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 ok my specs are(i'm pretty sure everyone knows it):Motherboard:MSI 845PE MAX2 Processor:Intel Pentium 4 2.40ghz(running on 2.79ghz) Video Card:ASUS N6200TD 128MB RAM:3x Kingston 256MB=768MB Sound Card:C-Media 8738/C3DX Sorry UserPlay, I guess this is all outdated hardware... Seriously, does anyone expect a guy with this setup to buy a new computer to run a 2005 game? You can say what you want, but there's just no excuse for such mediocre performance, this is probably the worst port of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzySM12 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 ok my specs are(i'm pretty sure everyone knows it):Motherboard:MSI 845PE MAX2 Processor:Intel Pentium 4 2.40ghz(running on 2.79ghz) Video Card:ASUS N6200TD 128MB RAM:3x Kingston 256MB=768MB Sound Card:C-Media 8738/C3DX Sorry UserPlay, I guess this is all outdated hardware... Seriously, does anyone expect a guy with this setup to buy a new computer to run a 2005 game? You can say what you want, but there's just no excuse for such mediocre performance, this is probably the worst port of the year. This guys PC is about 2-3 years out of date. Alot of people do not realise how fast PC's move. Every 16months Pc's double in speed, so when you buy a PC usually about 6 months after, it wil be out of date. I built my PC over a year ago and my specs are, Processor; AMD Athlon XP 3200+ Memory; 1.5GB 400MHz Crucial Graphics; Was GeForce 5700LE, now GeForce 6600 Now my PC is good and can run any new games, yet it is well out of date. Now we have 64bit processors, 3GB RAM, 7 series GeFoce, etc... Now although this guys PC should run SA in the low\medium settings, I am guessing then unless he is flinging the res al lthe way up and ingnoring people telling him to try 800x600 first and work up. Then he has a problem with his PC. Ether it is poor quality RAM he has, his motherbaord is not happy with the set up of RAM (most motherboards only like Ram in the amounts of 128, 256, 512, 1024, etc...) or his processor has been damaged by amature overclocking (usualy cause people think they can overclock there processor to 2.7GHz say, yet still run a cooling fan only built for 2.4GHz). And if you think that SA is demanding of hardware, then tell me how my mate can run it on his 1.8GHz, 512MB RAM, Geforce 2 system with no troubles (low settings of cource). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UserPlay Posted September 28, 2005 Author Share Posted September 28, 2005 What "amateure overclocking". I overclocked the graphic card,processor for about million times and i don't think it's damaged. If it's damaged or unhandled processor comp. will restart after 10-15 minutes of gameplay. Now my processor is back at 2.4 and with ASUS N6600TD 128MB i don't see any difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzySM12 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 What "amateure overclocking".I overclocked the graphic card,processor for about million times and i don't think it's damaged. If it's damaged or unhandled processor comp. will restart after 10-15 minutes of gameplay. Now my processor is back at 2.4 and with ASUS N6600TD 128MB i don't see any difference. amature overclocking as in you over clock your hardware withough also upgrading teh cooling on that hardware to support the over clocking. you cannot run a processor at 2.7GHz if the cooling fan and heatsink are designed for 2.4GHz. This si somthingmany people forget and when you end up running the ahrdware, although it runs "ok" it does cause damage and will lower the life span of the hardware. So if you have been running your processor overclocked for a year or two which the wrong cooling then it can get damaged and will start to perform bandly before jsut completly packing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA3Freak-2001 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 While you are kinda right there ozzy, it is known that GTASA is a poorly ported game and that lots of people even with top-of-the -line hardware are having performance issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
why2me Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Well what the hell is that complaining about GTA San Andreas performances. Is the game is deliberately created with bugs by Rockstar so the other companies new hardware will sell?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzySM12 Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Well what the hell is that complaining about GTA San Andreas performances. Is the game is deliberately created with bugs by Rockstar so the other companies new hardware will sell?? If a game or pice of software has bugs then new hardware will not fix that . And the game is a powerful game requireing alot of pollys to be processed. SA does not exactly ask for you to have crazy Pc specs, you jsut need decent specs. I can run SA at 1280x1024x32 and all the other settings maxed with my PC which is not too high speced compaird to some peoples. My specs, AMD Athlon XP 3200+ Processor 1.5GB RAM GeForce 6600 Graphics Card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
why2me Posted October 1, 2005 Share Posted October 1, 2005 The VC doesnot created wierd problems, then why SA?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarJet905 Posted October 1, 2005 Share Posted October 1, 2005 ok my specs are(i'm pretty sure everyone knows it):Motherboard:MSI 845PE MAX2 Processor:Intel Pentium 4 2.40ghz(running on 2.79ghz) Video Card:ASUS N6200TD 128MB RAM:3x Kingston 256MB=768MB Sound Card:C-Media 8738/C3DX Sorry UserPlay, I guess this is all outdated hardware... Seriously, does anyone expect a guy with this setup to buy a new computer to run a 2005 game? You can say what you want, but there's just no excuse for such mediocre performance, this is probably the worst port of the year. I don't know what ur talkin about. If that is outdated, what do you think about this? Radeon 7000 VGA 512MB RAM (that's the only good part) PIII 866 Mhz I play SA fine except for a little problem in Stowaway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Un-Nefer Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 My current specs are quite simlar, and although GTA:SA runs ok, I'm still disappointed at the overall experience. My comp can run BF2 on high settings fine, yet fails with GTA:SA - LMFAO The lag, sound issues and crashes are simply not acceptable and developers at Rockstar should pull their collective fingers out and release a patch to fix all the issues. I mean, the game is fine on a crappy powered PS2, yet a $2500+ computer has lag and sound delays WTF. Specs: Epox NF4 SLI MB Leadtech 6600GT "Extreme Edition" VC 2 x 1GB Geil Ultra (low latency) RAM AMD 64 3500+ 200GB SATAII HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UserPlay Posted October 6, 2005 Author Share Posted October 6, 2005 i have to agree with some people that the game is wrong for problems but i don't understand how this can be outdated Motherboard:MSI 845PE MAX2 Processor:Intel Pentium 4 2.40ghz Video Card:ASUS N6200TD 128MB RAM:3x Kingston 256MB=768MB Sound Card:C-Media 8738/C3DX i know there are procesors 4800 and graphic cards 7800 or ati fatal1ty X800XL and X1800XL with 512 mb but this is still a decent machine.Right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzySM12 Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 i have to agree with some people that the game is wrong for problems but i don't understand how this can be outdatedMotherboard:MSI 845PE MAX2 Processor:Intel Pentium 4 2.40ghz Video Card:ASUS N6200TD 128MB RAM:3x Kingston 256MB=768MB Sound Card:C-Media 8738/C3DX i know there are procesors 4800 and graphic cards 7800 or ati fatal1ty X800XL and X1800XL with 512 mb but this is still a decent machine.Right It is a decent machine but it is about 2-3 years old. I built my AMD Athlon 3200+, 1.5GB RAM machine over a year ago. I knwo alot of people dont like the fact, but computers move fast. A 2.4GHz processor is no longer thaugh as being fasdt. Everything is 3.xGHz now, or into hte 62bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALeSsAnDrO Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 This has been discussed quite a few times here before, there's no point in bringing out arguments like "computers move fast" to justify the game's poor performance. We all know how fast computers move, I'm sure most of us aren't newbies. And we also know that games are supposed to run well when our setups are ABOVE the recommended specs. And please, those of you who were lucky enough to play it above 20 fps, don't say "it runs fine on my computer". Good for you. Unfortunatelly, there are still way too many people having problems with it, not just performance-wise. San Andreas is just like Half Life 2 with the Lost Coast map: you need REALLY superior hardware to be sure to play it at a decent framerate. But HL2 uses heavy technology like HDR, while San Andreas is just badly ported... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UserPlay Posted October 7, 2005 Author Share Posted October 7, 2005 ozzy i bet you meant 64Bit not 62Bit and i have to agree with ALeSsAnDrO about his last post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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