Play It On The PS3?

[dcole25]

I was wondering, seeing as the PSP will be able to be used as an extra controller for the Playstation 3, will you be able to play Liberty City Stories on the PS3?

[trooper]

if i had to guess i'd say there is a possibility. but i guess we'll find out in 5 months

[Canoxa]

No, no and NO.

 

Firstly, please search this forum, this has been discussed before.

Secondly, no it will not. The only connection between PSP and PS3 is that the PSP will be used as a controller and there will be some unlockables and easter eggs for people that use the PSP and the PS3 to play games of the same franchise.

[pwpdbmx2x]

that would be cool

[pwpdbmx2x]

and yo, canoxa, take a chill pill, hes just asking a question...... be cool........besides he just made a simple mistake..........its no big deal....

[K^2]

I doubt it. It is possible, but there is little point. A lot more people are interested in playing their PS3 games on PSP than these who are interested in the opposite, which is why I suspect the connection will only work one way, allowing PSP to be used as a wireless controller and screen for the PS3.

[Simon.]

I thought the PS3 had PSP support, which allowed you to link your PSP up to your TV like the Gameboy does for Nintendo?

 

Anyways you woudn't want to do that. Because the PSP games have set resolutions for the PSP console so they'd look pixelated/blurred on a TV.

 

But for official confirmation you'd have to wait until PS3 release, if Sony doesn't do it there would probably be some third-party hardware that allows you to do it . But yeah, most of this post is just guesses.... no promises from me.

 

@pwpdbmx2x: There is an "Edit" post button .

[K^2]

It would almost make more sense for PS3 to emulate PSP. It is going to be capable of PS2 emulation anyways, and PSP's architecture is similar, so PSP support would be possible. PSP itslelf would be used by PS3 simply as an external UMD drive via the USB cable. Also, this way, PS3 can output higher resolution image. As I have mentioned many times before, it wouldn't make much of a difference with a regular TV, since PSP screen is of almost as high resolution and much more clear, but these who own HDTVs will be able to enjoy games in high resolution.

[Simon.]

It would almost make more sense for PS3 to emulate PSP. It is going to be capable of PS2 emulation anyways, and PSP's architecture is similar, so PSP support would be possible. PSP itslelf would be used by PS3 simply as an external UMD drive via the USB cable. Also, this way, PS3 can output higher resolution image. As I have mentioned many times before, it wouldn't make much of a difference with a regular TV, since PSP screen is of almost as high resolution and much more clear, but these who own HDTVs will be able to enjoy games in high resolution.

Sadly, I don't have an HDTV .

 

I sure hope that what your saying is right, because there may be hope for me to play PSP on my TV.

 

/me prays for PSP emulation on PS3 and then imagines LCS on TV .

[bLo0dD]

having an hdtv wouldnt matter

when games are made for psp, they'll be made with models and textures in quality that the psp screen can handle, if you have a tv ora an hdtv, you cant enhance textures without having the files for them, and the quality of the textures that'll be in gta:lcs will be only good enough to see properly on a small screen with the same resolution as the psp...

 

so technically even palying it on a normal tv could make it look stretched.... unless they made psp games on dvd and/or blu ray disc for the ps3 to play, wouldnt be hard for them to code if they made the ps3 to be able to emulate a psp... for them it'd be a business idea, should they invest to make the ps3 emulate psp? personaly i think it'd be a great idea, and they should do it.... it'll boost sales of games that are on psp and demand for it on ps3, all the game makers would have to do, and would definatly want to do if ps3 emulated psp, is for them to make better textures so it would fit our generation of tv's,...

[*MURDOC*]

 

PSP itslelf would be used by PS3 simply as an external UMD drive via the USB cable.

Sweet idea, be nice if it pans out.

 

I was just thinking, if you are ever able to play psp games on the tv, will it have the black letterbox bars on the top and bottom of the screen, since the psp is widescreen?

I doubt theyll give psp games an option to be used with regular-ratio tvs, since not everyone would be playing there psp on tv.

[The_Grudge]

Backwards Compatiblity, but I doubt it will be able to read a UMD disc.

[*MURDOC*]

 

PSP itslelf would be used by PS3 simply as an external UMD drive via the USB cable.

 

Did you read this at all grudge, thats what he was talking about, since the ps3 wont have a UMD drive.

 

Plus the other stuff in my post was in reply to things that others have said, so it doesnt make as much sense if you dont read the posts before it.

[Multiformat Gamer]

 

I was wondering, seeing as the PSP will be able to be used as an extra controller for the Playstation 3, will you be able to play Liberty City Stories on the PS3?

Be patient. Look at what xploder did with the cheat cd they brought out they had the Playstation 2 playing other media like avis mpegs etc. Its only a matter of time before some programers get together and make UMD disc support a reality. Their are a lot of clever people out their and dont forget their are a lot of GTA Game players and PSP owners who would love to have that happen on PS3. All the programers who make UMD support a reality could sell a product like that and make a fortune.

 

And if sony did decide to stop them it could simply be argued in court that Sony would be deliberatley preventing others from taking advanatge of the new UMD technology. How many people will want to play UMD Movies on their pc. Millions and theirs a huge market for it.

 

And it wouldnt affect sonys PSP sales since a Playstation Portable is used for more than just gaming. If sony wanted it for gaming they wouldnt of put extras in it.

 

I could debate this into thousands of pages but ive got to go to bed soon.

[GTA3Rockstar]

Wait no longer... Though, its not playable through the PS3 but it sure is with this... It also lets you connect the PS2/3(maybe) to it and use that as the controls... Veru awesom, diffently getting that...

[Multiformat Gamer]

Thats all cool but the real challenge is making a program that works and lets you play PSP games on your pc or a device that lets you play PSP games on your PS2. It can be done with a little time and patience.

[dcole25]

@Multiformat Gamer - I am not sure if other people would be allowed to use the UMD. I think that sony has complete copyright and patents on the UMD. Isn't it ironic thouh, that it's called a Universal Media Disc (or something like that), and yet it is only able to be used on a PSP. Really Universal

[tommyalma]

Thats all cool but the real challenge is making a program that works and lets you play PSP games on your pc or a device that lets you play PSP games on your PS2. It can be done with a little time and patience.

Supposedly, this will do the trick: http://psp.joystiq.com/entry/1234000727059150/

[B-Dupp]

well it depends on what you mean really you can actually connect the psp to the ps3 and play it on the tv from your psp.

[GTA3Rockstar]

Thats all cool but the real challenge is making a program that works and lets you play PSP games on your pc or a device that lets you play PSP games on your PS2. It can be done with a little time and patience.

Supposedly, this will do the trick: http://psp.joystiq.com/entry/1234000727059150/

If you would have read my post up a little ways, I posted the same thing... Please read posts before posting, thanks

[Multiformat Gamer]

dcole25 Even if sony owned the copyrights all someone would have to do is make sony an offer lets say a certain percentage of the programs sales. If theirs extra revenue availible for sony they will jump at the chance for it and once Sony give full support to a PSP game player for PS3 and PC the sales of that thing would go though the roof making sony and the designer/s rich.

 

Besides millions upon millions of people own a pc and they would definatley want the advantages of being able to use UMD Technology. Playing PSP games on your PS3/PC theirs a massive market for it Sony Know it and now we know it.

[dcole25]

@ Multiformat Gamer - True, but i think that having PSP compatibility on PC would severly damage the PSP's sales across the world, so although some extra revenue would be coming in, i don't think sony would go for it because they would lose more from the smaller PSP sales

[Multiformat Gamer]

@ Multiformat Gamer - True, but i think that having PSP compatibility on PC would severly damage the PSP's sales across the world, so although some extra revenue would be coming in, i don't think sony would go for it because they would lose more from the smaller PSP sales

Sony would not lose revenue. Any legit Playstation Games Player would buy a PSP to collect all the consoles. In this day and age theirs no excuse for anyone not to buy a PSP or PS3 their are various organisations that can sell you those systems for a certain payment per month. And secondly why would sony try to prevent the use of UMD anywhere that would effect them big time.

 

As long as people like you and me keep demanding it then no sane programer is going to resist a challenge like that.

[rootmanback]

personally i wouldnt bother with whateva the umd discs are, their gigabye disc space is 1.8 gbs whereas a normal dvd is 4 gbs i think.

 

and also, from what i hear n see on the net, there are programs that can let you you be able to compress all the game data like from a normal ps2 game to a sony memory stick duo that you can just carry easily enuff without holding up a lotta discs yourself. it could even work for movies as well as you can shift a whole dvd movie onto a memory stick duo n watch them all in your glorious psp screen.

 

i bet in a couple yrs sony will do what nintendo did with all their gameboys and re-release them with new improvements and add newer features to enhance the psp further such as add a right analogue stick back onto the psp, add 2 more shoulder buttons, improve the audio on the psp speakers, longer betta battery life, bigga screen, and maybe just possibly make a new umd format that has more space than 1.8 gigs, hopefully a blu-ray umd format that could really give sony an edge next 3 yrs from now.

 

oh and still have backwards compatibility on all other psp umd games like ps2 did with their ps1 back catalogue.

[tommyalma]

Nevermind, I'm not a mod either...

Edited September 17, 2005 by tommyalma

[K^2]

having an hdtv wouldnt matter

when games are made for psp, they'll be made with models and textures in quality that the psp screen can handle, if you have a tv ora an hdtv, you cant enhance textures without having the files for them, and the quality of the textures that'll be in gta:lcs will be only good enough to see properly on a small screen with the same resolution as the psp...

Yes, the texture resolution cannot be improved. You can use better filtering for them, but that will only give you so much improvement. However, increasing the screen resolution will still improve image quality signifficantly. Texturing is just one of the many operations performed during rendering, and quality of results of most other operations depends on the number of screen buffer pixels rather than number of texels. Some lighting operations are performed per-texel, but you can store a low resolution texture in the space assigned for higher resolution texture. This will not improve on the texture quality, but will provide more texels for lighting computations, giving you higher resolution of shading. So if the PSP is being emulated, there are quite a few things you can do to make it look better on an HDTV screen or computer monitor than it would look if you simply transfered the image from PSP screen.

[dcole25]

Good point Multiformat Gamer. POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!1

[Multiformat Gamer]

Good point Multiformat Gamer. POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!1

Thankyou very much. We are the main source of revenue for Sony so its about time they cut us some slack and let Playstation 2 owners benefit from the UMD Technology. We should have every right to use UMD Technology on our Playstation 2 as we should be able to play PSP games as well. If sony brought out a peripheral that would let us do this then think of how much more profit sony would generate from the sale of the New PS2's or PS3's. And by the time Playstation 3 hits the shelves the PSP will be cheap.

 

Although some PSP owners who have bought the console will disagree with my posts they can not denie the fact the Playstation 2 owners are left out by not having any UMD Support and the fact we cannot play new titles like Metal Gear Acid and GTA Liberty City Stories. Those are new games with different storys compared to the Playstation 2 series and PSP owners get to play updated games while we are forced to stick with GTA San Andreas. Its unfair to be forced to fork Hundreads of Dollars,Pounds to buy a minutre Playstation 2 just to play new games. The Playstation 2 is more than capabile of running PSP games and with the right people behind the hardware to do it for PS2 then that would increase the number of games for us to play.

 

[dcole25]

True, the PS2 should be capable of running PSP games, seeing as the PSP has about 90% of the power that te PS2 has. Maybe they could bring out something like the Super Game Boy that nintendo had for their super nes. It allowed you to play Game Boy Games through your Super nes. The only problem that might be encountered of course would be de-compression isssues, although that may be able to be worked into the peripheral.