Hpz Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 from what I noticed the last week, the team is getting very annoyed by all of the people who are still crackin up their choise to make SA-MP a Co-Op game. And the VC-MP source got some bad comments too. What I was wondering, is the team still motivated enough to continue their work on this supermod, and leave those crackheads at the garbage? I'm 100% Behind the team and I'm really admiring their work. I would say, GO SA-MP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanney Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Yea me too coop is better than nothing and peds and vehicles as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statico Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 It's a load of bullsh*t that the team shouldn't have to be bothered with. First, they annouce that they are releasing VC:MP. People say it's all been done before, worse than MTA etc etc. Then they tell us SA:MP will be co-op. No need to go into that one. The source is released, and people complain saying it's gonna create cheaters. First, the cheat protection was minimal anyway, and what's the point if you just compile the source without the anti-cheat code. Now the devlog has been taken down for a while because they want a "quiet period", in other words, they want rid of the newbies that don't understand what the team have achieved to do what they've done, and can't provide constructive critisism. As for the co-op thing, AI bots, well that speaks for itself when you think of how much work was put into cracking the MTA 0.5 packets, which was mainly used for creating an ingame bot, not a game crasher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyeman Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 The amount of complaints we get does decrease our morale. I'm glad some of you can at least see part of what we have to deal with. There's not just complaints, but I personally get loads of emails from people asking me to fix their firewall problems etc. We have to deal with people constantly telling us that MTA:SA is better, even though we're not competing for anything and no team has yet released anything. In between all of this we have lots of code to write, lots of stuff to research. Since we don't have the resources to deal with both, we have to scale back our interaction with the fans and trolls. Many people seem upset with the fact that we chose a co-op system. The strange thing here is that we had never previously annouced what we were doing. Everyone just assumed it was going to be like MTA in SA land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zircon Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 People are entitled to their opinion. Closing the developer's log, locking posts, and banning people is a clear sign that you don't want to listen or compromise. I stand corrected. This is not our mod; the community has nothing to do with it. Now where's my punishment for ban evasion? Zircon wanders off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hpz Posted September 9, 2005 Author Share Posted September 9, 2005 People are entitled to their opinion. Closing the developer's log, locking posts, and banning people is a clear sign that you don't want to listen or compromise. I stand corrected. This is not our mod; the community has nothing to do with it. Now where's my punishment for ban evasion? Zircon wanders off You are so incredibly selfish. They are doing a very good job, and I'm just loving the co-op. I understand this is just one step down, and if you want to play that f*ckin deathmatch of yours, why dont you just start playing MTA then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opius Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 People are entitled to their opinion. Closing the developer's log, locking posts, and banning people is a clear sign that you don't want to listen or compromise. I stand corrected. This is not our mod; the community has nothing to do with it. Now where's my punishment for ban evasion? Zircon wanders off The team didn't ban you, I did. Yet another nail in the coffin of your intellect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyeman Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 On the blog I tried to explain that the reason we chose co-op was because of technical reasons. Most people didn't listen or understand. Not surprising since most people are not experts in writing multiplayer games. This is not the community's mod until the community contributes something. By opening up the source code for VC:MP we've enabled them to do just that. Eventually SA:MP will be open sourced aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hpz Posted September 9, 2005 Author Share Posted September 9, 2005 I've been reading the blog and I understand it. Whats their problem anyway, Its your mod, your choise, so let them talk, and make us the most entertaining mod ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
god.thinks.hes.opius Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 People are entitled to their opinion. Closing the developer's log, locking posts, and banning people is a clear sign that you don't want to listen or compromise. I stand corrected. This is not our mod; the community has nothing to do with it. Now where's my punishment for ban evasion? Zircon wanders off The team didn't ban you, I did. Yet another nail in the coffin of your intellect. I partially blame them for choosing a forum full of complete idiots with moderator privileges. Take your itchy finger off the ban trigger and stop hiding behind it. The invalidity of the first ban spoke for itself. A total of six (6) posts exchanged with Camaro and I'm out without a warning, keeping in mind I wasn't the only one in there arguing with him. And larger disputes with no bans involved haven't happened here before? Do I smell a case of bias and power tripping? Get over yourself, kid. Oh, have fun banning me again after shoving in the last word. Don't forget the cute "BUSTED!" rank with the pretty stars and a witty comment in my newly edited signature. Moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opius Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 Damn right it's a power trip. But who's backing up YOU and what can you do about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 (edited) People are entitled to their opinion. Closing the developer's log, locking posts, and banning people is a clear sign that you don't want to listen or compromise. I stand corrected. This is not our mod; the community has nothing to do with it. Now where's my punishment for ban evasion? Zircon wanders off The team didn't ban you, I did. Yet another nail in the coffin of your intellect. I partially blame them for choosing a forum full of complete idiots with moderator privileges. Take your itchy finger off the ban trigger and stop hiding behind it. The invalidity of the first ban spoke for itself. A total of six (6) posts exchanged with Camaro and I'm out without a warning, keeping in mind I wasn't the only one in there arguing with him. And larger disputes with no bans involved haven't happened here before? Do I smell a case of bias and power tripping? Get over yourself, kid. Oh, have fun banning me again after shoving in the last word. Don't forget the cute "BUSTED!" rank with the pretty stars and a witty comment in my newly edited signature. Moron. You, my friend, are the moron. Opius is cool... Unlike you. Act like a troll/retard on GTAF and you get a ban, simple eh? Also, we closed the Dev Log so that we dont need to deal with the moaning coming from ungreatful retards. Edited September 10, 2005 by Camaro d00d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shookster Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 You are so incredibly selfish. They are doing a very good job, and I'm just loving the co-op. I understand this is just one step down, and if you want to play that f*ckin deathmatch of yours, why dont you just start playing MTA then? You're loving the co-op, yet you haven't played it? The idea is good and completely different from what other teams are doing but I think it would be better if people reserved their judgement (good and bad) for when it is released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njr1489 Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 People are entitled to their opinion. Closing the developer's log, locking posts, and banning people is a clear sign that you don't want to listen or compromise. I stand corrected. This is not our mod; the community has nothing to do with it. Now where's my punishment for ban evasion? Zircon wanders off The team didn't ban you, I did. Yet another nail in the coffin of your intellect. I partially blame them for choosing a forum full of complete idiots with moderator privileges. Take your itchy finger off the ban trigger and stop hiding behind it. The invalidity of the first ban spoke for itself. A total of six (6) posts exchanged with Camaro and I'm out without a warning, keeping in mind I wasn't the only one in there arguing with him. And larger disputes with no bans involved haven't happened here before? Do I smell a case of bias and power tripping? Get over yourself, kid. Oh, have fun banning me again after shoving in the last word. Don't forget the cute "BUSTED!" rank with the pretty stars and a witty comment in my newly edited signature. Moron. You, my friend, are the moron. Opius is cool... Unlike you. Act like a troll/retard on GTAF and you get a ban, simple eh? Also, we closed the Dev Log so that we dont need to deal with the moaning coming from ungreatful retards. When can we expect it back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kodiac Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 Coop will rock! Excellent move, - i can't wait!!! On that note, any idea's when it will be out - before chrissy ? I remember you gave an ETA of 2 months before, any any rough guess... I'm sooooo keen to play this Keep up the great works guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erorr404 Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 coop is a very ineteresting move in GTA multiplayer and it should definately be fun. i hope they increase the player limit though. plus, we still have MTASA to look forward to for deathmatch. i dont like that they dropped VCMP however. they should have at least fixed the server browser first so people would be able to find a place to play. VCMP had so much potential to grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeJaY22 Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 (edited) People are entitled to their opinion. Zircon wanders off What exactly does that mean? people use that one all the time and it just has no meaning at all. Are you saying that you should be allowed to voice your opinion without people thinking you're a moron? Why would people think you're a moron you ask? Probably because you bitch, complain, flame and react angrily for absolutely no reason at all, at a team of nice blokes who work hard to bring you something fun, not to mention free. If you post a well thought out, logical reason why the decision to make this mod coop is a bad idea, i'd like to hear it. It's very simple: (1) Before this decision, there were two San Andreas mods coming out. One was Deathmatch... the other one, also deathmatch. The gameplay mechanics were both going to be the same, the netcode of similar efficiency. It would also seem the mods were going to be released at roughly the same time. (2) One of the mods decides changes direction, deciding that a Cooperative mod would be more fun to play, and that Deathmatch would still be available eventually for those who want it. So just to recap, we've gone from having two things that are the same, to two things that are unique. (3) Many people become angry because ___________ People are welcome to quote me and fill in the rest of point three. Perhaps Zircon will surprise us and show that he is not only entitled to his opinion, his opinion is also well thought out and worth listening to. Edited September 11, 2005 by BeeJaY22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_TDH Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 complaining is good---->>>0.1d here kyeman have a , nice to see that our main coder who was making mod for himself after few "retarded complains" decided to share his great work with his great community....omg, i'm crying ps anyway all this forum war after "source" release looked like a clown show 4 me....keep it up guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyeman Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Bob_TDH: You're a nerd, mate. You're a nerd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hpz Posted September 11, 2005 Author Share Posted September 11, 2005 Bob_TDH: You're a nerd, mate. You're a nerd. Dude, I love you, those pixels make me cry, love!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
