Two Questions

[SuperCoolGuy]

1. I have a Rosewill 52X32X52X16 combo drive and some 52X speed memorex blank CD-Rs, but when i burn them with Nero Burning ROM ver. 6.3.1.25 (full version) I can only get the CDs to burn at 48x. I am pretty sure it's not the CD drive, because before I put a blank CD in, I can view the different burning speeds and they list all the way up to 52x, and I doubt that it's the CDs' faults because...well...memorex, and it clearly says 52x right on the CD. Can someone please tell me how to burn up to 52x with Nero, or what I need to do to reach the full burning speed?

 

2. When I run Ad-Aware SE Personal (newest version, new definition files) on the full scan, sometimes it can get all the way through without freezing my computer strangely (it first freezes the program itself, then the taskbar is frozen, then if I try to click on something or open a folder on the desktop, finally the mouse freezes), but when I run the smart scan it freezes every time. This bothers me a lot because my parents manage to hoard spyware and the likes, and Ad-Aware always did a good, thorough job of removing it. Spybot just doesn't seem to get in as deep as Ad-Aware does, and I feel all warm and fuzzy inside after hearing that horrible splat noise after a completed scan.

 

Any help with either of these questions will be greatly appreciated. Thx.

 

EDIT: All right, 3 questions. I use Firefox and I notice that when i download something, the download speed starts really really high (something like 4 megs a second almost) but then it drops dramatically in less than a second. Is there a way that i can keep the speed that high without faltering to the usual low of 80 kb/s (40 if downloading two things)? That would be really nice because i dont normally download large files with this, but when i do they could be downloaded in no time if i could just keep that speed constant. Thanks again.

Edited August 26, 2005 by SuperCoolGuy

[sate]

1. Why can't you just burn your CD's with 48x it's not a lot of time you loose.

 

2. I do not know. But I do know that Spybot is better. I prefer Spybot Search and Destroy anyway. And if you just need to clean up all of your junk try http://www.ccleaner.com/

 

3. It's because your internet connection isn't faster than 80 kb/s. It's starts at 4mb because well, everybody's internet connection does that.

[segosa]

1. I don't know the cause, but if I were to guess I'd say because they weren't designed to be used at the max. You know, the max might just be marketing. Either way, the difference isn't too big, and the quality of the final CD will be the same. It's just the time it takes to burn.

 

2. For the ad-aware problem you can try reinstalling it, if that doesn't work you could always try use the Beta of Microsoft Antispyware (google it). It's been rated as one of the best and it's very thorough.

 

3. You can't keep it at that speed, because it was never at that speed to begin with. When you download a file at the beginning there's not much of the file downloaded so it's hard to make a good estimation of the speed (since that's all it's doing, estimating based on how much of that particular file is downloaded per second).

[Wolf68k]

Nero and burner problem:

When you put the 52x CDR in and Nero reads it does it give you the options to use 52x or is only 48x as the max?

If it's because 48x is the max option it might be just a glitch with the dye used to make that batch of CDRs.

Also keep in mind that while the drive will burn the info faster at 52x over 48x the over all time different is maybe 1 min from start to finish, I'm including the Lead In and Lead Out time. Now I don't know what could make burning files that much a big deal that you have to have the thing done 1 min (2 at the most) sooner.

 

 

Ad-Aware problem:

Tried in Safe Mode?

 

@sate:

Spybot isn't any better or worse than Ad-Aware. Both should be used. Ad-Aware finds things that Spybot won't and isn't made to detect, and vise versa. Note there is a different between adware and spyware; while both are annoying as hell and can screw up your system. Adware is mainly just displaying ads. Spyware is sending your personal system info and surf habits back to "home".

 

 

Firefox speeds:

You're not really downloading at 4MB/s. Most all browsers do this, even some other programs that are used to transfer files. I've seen in with FTP clients, a program called Hotline (don't ask it's old news and basicly dead) even in email clients.

If you have a site that you do go and that always does this, then try this....

Go get NetStatLive from AnalogX (freeware) and run it. It'll show you what your upload and downloads speeds are.

Now there is what's called "burst speed" that you might see in the middle of a download. Some also call the thing you're getting where it's fast at start and slows down quickly as "burst speed".

 

I get this when I download drivers from nVidia for example. Starts off at 4-5MB/sec but then quickly drops off, however it drops off so fast I never get to see what the real speed is. Now when I use NetStatLive I can see the whole time that my speeds around 600k/sec (5Mbit/sec) which is normal for my ISP.

[sate]

Note there is a different between adware and spyware; while both are annoying as hell and can screw up your system. Adware is mainly just displaying ads. Spyware is sending your personal system info and surf habits back to "home".

Annoying as hell, and screwing up your system?

 

Why, how?

 

THought these programs were good.

[Wolf68k]

You need to re-read that.

Ad-Aware and Spybot are good. But adware and spyware are not good.

[SuperCoolGuy]

Burning the CDs at 52x isn't so much of a problem as it is an annoyance, but if being able to burn 52x brings it a whole minute down, then i'd sure as hell like to be able to burn them that fast because that would bring the average time it takes to burn dowm from about two and a half minutes to one and a half minutes. Plus, I usually use my mp3 player to listen to music, so when i want to burn a CD, it's usually many CDs at the same time. Oh, and yes the maximum speed it lets me choose is 48x.

 

@wolf68k: No, I haven't tried it in safe mode. I will try this when I get home from work today. Also, do you know that that speed is average for your ISP because you can see the speed when you're connected? Like, when my internet connects (DSL) after startup, I can hover my mouse over the connection icon and it says connected at 10.00 Mbps. Does that mean that if I download from an FTP Client that I'll be downloading at or near 10 Mb/s? That would indeed be very sweet.

 

@sate: I have Crap Cleaner and run it every once in a while, but it doesn't find trojans like Ad-Aware does, or so I've heard.

[segosa]

I can hover my mouse over the connection icon and it says connected at 10.00 Mbps. Does that mean that if I download from an FTP Client that I'll be downloading at or near 10 Mb/s? That would indeed be very sweet.

No, that's the speed of data transfer between your computer and your router (along that cable). The speed from your router to the Internet is far, far slower and determined by your ISP.

[Colotomy Headwind]

3. You can't keep it at that speed, because it was never at that speed to begin with. When you download a file at the beginning there's not much of the file downloaded so it's hard to make a good estimation of the speed (since that's all it's doing, estimating based on how much of that particular file is downloaded per second).

I thought it was because even before you choose where to save or whether to open it with a specified program, Firefox starts downloading it to the temporary folder. I'm actually pretty sure of this, since I've downloaded 4 MB files before I chose to save them to the disc because I was distracted after clicking the link. My internet is NOT 4MB/sec.

[Wolf68k]

I can hover my mouse over the connection icon and it says connected at 10.00 Mbps. Does that mean that if I download from an FTP Client that I'll be downloading at or near 10 Mb/s? That would indeed be very sweet.

No, that's the speed of data transfer between your computer and your router (along that cable). The speed from your router to the Internet is far, far slower and determined by your ISP.

Huh?? Even I got confused by that.

 

 

10Mb/s is the speed of the network connection between you PC and your modem (if there was a router in between then the speed should read 100Mb/s). This is because a DSL modem's ethernet port is only a 10Base-T (10Mbit/sec), same is true for cable modems.

 

 

Back to the burner issue; like I said before it the max speed it'll let you set is only 48x and you're 100% sure the burner can burn at 52x (Nero's InfoTool can check that out for you) then it sounds like a glitch in the dye used to make the CDRs.

 

Nice and all that you're burn times are 2:30mins, and I did say that at the most you might save is 1min at 52x (or tried to imply). But again I have to ask; is getting it done 1min faster really that big of deal?

I'd really like to rant about this but I'll save it for my blog.

 

 

@Colotomy Headwind

That's partly true too. But I have clicked Enter twice without thinking knowning that's going to ask me to save the file and knowning where it's going to save it and I still get high burst speeds at the start with a rapid drop as goes on.

[SuperCoolGuy]

Wolf, sorry if I came off as a bit pretentious or something. I was just in a hurry and trying to get what I was saying across quickly and efficiently. Anyway, what I meant was that since I don't burn CDs very often (I just let the ones I want to burn wait until I really need one burned for a friend or myself if I want to listen to it on a stereo or something), I usually don't burn just one at a time. I'll burn 5-10 or more sometimes, but saving 1 minute each time regardless of how many I'm burning, because it's rarely one, will add up to be several minutes. That may not really sound like a great argument, but it just has been bothering me ever since I got these CD-Rs specifically so that I could use my burner's maximum potential that I've been trying to get them to actually burn that fast. I bought 100 of them, and I expected them to be able to do as they were advertised. No dice. It's not the end of the world, but these CDs just sit there, mocking me, the bastards. Oh well, I'll just try my luck with a different brand and if this problem persists I may just come back. But probably not. But maybe. Yeah, I'll come back but i'm going to be angry next time.

 

 

10Mb/s is the speed of the network connection between you PC and your modem

 

So by any chance does this mean that I can achieve download speeds this high?

 

But seriously, I apologize for any bastardry on my part. Thanks for all the help. I really hope that the dye is the problem and not something I have to deal with that is more confusing than getting new CD-Rs. Oh and I noticed that I'd had two 50 packs and both of the packs have not burned higher than 48x in case this interests someone, although it could just be that those particular CDs were bad ones and that I could get these same CDs made at a different time and they could work, but whatever.

[Wolf68k]

I completely understand about burning a group of things in one sitting insteading of burning each day type of thing. I've done that, still do some what, in the past.

 

Exact what make and model of burner are you using?

 

 

You could yes get up to a 10Mbit/sec from yoru DSL provider, when/if they offer it which right now will cost you a arm and leg. Give up your first born and you could get 100Mbit/sec connection which is about an OC3 line.

 

 

DS0	64Kbits per second*
T-1	1.544 megabits per second (24 DS0 lines)
T-3	43.232 megabits per second (28 T1s)
OC-3	155 megabits per second (100 T1s)
OC-12	622 megabits per second (4 OC3s)
OC-48	2.5 gigabits per seconds (4 OC12s)
OC-192	9.6 gigabits per second (4 OC48s)

Source: http://www.infobahn.com/research-information.htm

* http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,...i212004,00.html

Edited August 27, 2005 by wolf68k

[segosa]

 

I can hover my mouse over the connection icon and it says connected at 10.00 Mbps. Does that mean that if I download from an FTP Client that I'll be downloading at or near 10 Mb/s? That would indeed be very sweet.

No, that's the speed of data transfer between your computer and your router (along that cable). The speed from your router to the Internet is far, far slower and determined by your ISP.

Huh?? Even I got confused by that.

 

 

10Mb/s is the speed of the network connection between you PC and your modem (if there was a router in between then the speed should read 100Mb/s). This is because a DSL modem's ethernet port is only a 10Base-T (10Mbit/sec), same is true for cable modems.

My router is only 10Mbit (7 years old), but I should have been more clear. Router OR modem.

 

 

[Wolf68k]

Your router's LAN side is only 10Base-T?

Ouch, that's got suck

[segosa]

 

Your router's LAN side is only 10Base-T?

Ouch, that's got suck

Indeed. But it's not too bad. It has 4 ports, one is broken and one day we had to connect a 4th PC so I bought a 16 port 100Mbps switch, connected every box to that and the switch to the router, so now if I want to transfer files over the network they go at 100Mbps since the router doesn't get involved.

[Bond996]

For the burner, try holding down the eject button for 5-10 seconds until the light blinks and then stops blinking, or something. Some burners advertise high speeds, but they are only capable of them by over-revving their motors, so they are disabled without that. It may not be the case, but it might.

[sate]

You need to re-read that.

Ad-Aware and Spybot are good. But adware and spyware are not good.

sh*t. Sorry I were at school and just read it fast

 

I understand.

[Wolf68k]

For the burner, try holding down the eject button for 5-10 seconds until the light blinks and then stops blinking, or something. Some burners advertise high speeds, but they are only capable of them by over-revving their motors, so they are disabled without that. It may not be the case, but it might.

Yes but Nero, and other software, can read the disc and detect what speeds it can support.

[SuperCoolGuy]

Sorry for delayed response, but this is the exact drive model, not the one I linked in my first post.

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