Dazla Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 Oh btw..Yes I do plan on putting a huge bucket on the front so you can lift people and bikes off the road ...Also another great drive by vehicle come MTA...Guys in the bucket drive by shooting with protection from the bucket...fantastic! PB. Its losely based on a 4CX, im gonna name it "Digger" Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/211881-sawipscr-digger-jcb-4cx/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
pal user Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 good start can't wait until you finish this its perfect for MTA when do you think you will finish it Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/211881-sawipscr-digger-jcb-4cx/#findComment-3125561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazla Posted August 23, 2005 Author Share Posted August 23, 2005 Within the next week..Im going more for gameplay then detail. Model is about 90% complete. Texturing is very simple as im using existing SA textures, and testing and handling will prolly take a few days...So not long, thats only taken me 5 hours though so far. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/211881-sawipscr-digger-jcb-4cx/#findComment-3125627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcolleye Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 very good idea......i'll put it in my SA when you release it...It will be very good if you can put the possibilty of moving the arms like with the forklift....And found a solution for the wheels which are "in" the ground....and not "on" the ground... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/211881-sawipscr-digger-jcb-4cx/#findComment-3125804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazla Posted August 25, 2005 Author Share Posted August 25, 2005 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/211881-sawipscr-digger-jcb-4cx/#findComment-3132558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizza guy Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Looks nice Dazla. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/211881-sawipscr-digger-jcb-4cx/#findComment-3132563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALEXE Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 looks really nice is it done? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/211881-sawipscr-digger-jcb-4cx/#findComment-3133513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazla Posted August 25, 2005 Author Share Posted August 25, 2005 Couple more days work..The model is finished apart from creating the brakelights. Texturing is around a good 80% complete now. Im gonna add a few extras (Different buckets and some hire firm decals)..haha and btw there bloody funny "Dude" is a great template to create jokes around. Ive gotten hang of the wheel size and handling now too Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/211881-sawipscr-digger-jcb-4cx/#findComment-3133644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJHW Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Get some proper wheels on that, I want Tractor style wheels! (I mean the sizes) +FF7F24+ Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/211881-sawipscr-digger-jcb-4cx/#findComment-3133860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercie Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Also another great drive by vehicle come MTA...Guys in the bucket drive by shooting with protection from the bucket...fantastic! No mods for MTA. Otherwise you need a dedicated server for every configuration of mods people are using. A lot of people make vehicles in the hopes of MTA, no use unless a server supports it. I think. Unless it is just a replacement, and I have no idea how that will work, because altered data in anyway will cause a kick. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/211881-sawipscr-digger-jcb-4cx/#findComment-3134004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues The Squirrel Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 All your work is amazing Dazla, I am definatly installing this. I am also waiting on the Osprey mod. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/211881-sawipscr-digger-jcb-4cx/#findComment-3134298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexp2_ad Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Yeah, this looks cool... I like the way your vehicles add something to the gameplay, rather than just a new model. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/211881-sawipscr-digger-jcb-4cx/#findComment-3134566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
***GTA*** Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 When released I will replace DFT30 or Cement Truck with this one!!! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/211881-sawipscr-digger-jcb-4cx/#findComment-3134583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA3Freak-2001 Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 When released I will replace DFT30 or Cement Truck with this one!!! It won't work very well though, the Dozer is the only vehicle that has a moveable front end. Looking much better Dazla but yeah fix up those wheels need the biggies at teh back. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/211881-sawipscr-digger-jcb-4cx/#findComment-3134751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazla Posted August 26, 2005 Author Share Posted August 26, 2005 They both biggies Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/211881-sawipscr-digger-jcb-4cx/#findComment-3134765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA3Freak-2001 Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 Meh well I don't like it, I dunno I just always invision the classic biggie at the back Digger. But hey its your model, still a great model to play with ingame regardless. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/211881-sawipscr-digger-jcb-4cx/#findComment-3134787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazla Posted August 26, 2005 Author Share Posted August 26, 2005 Ill see how it looks IG 3cx style, however it doesnt have the pun of the 4CX..hehe, you will see what I mean later Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/211881-sawipscr-digger-jcb-4cx/#findComment-3134810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenMillard Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 (edited) A "driven" wheel is one which carries the power from the engine. BWM cars tend to have rear wheel drive, so the rear wheels carry the power from the engine. A "steered" wheel is the one which turns the vehicle. In a BMW, they tend to be the front wheels. In GTASA, the setting for the driven wheels is in the DriveType setting. To change which wheels are steered is a little more complicated. I recommend using my CFG Studio program when editing handling because I've made it to be extremely stable, reliable and easy to use. Find the HandlingFlags column for the DOZER handling line. When you start editing the cell (double-click or press F2 or use the "Edit > Edit Cell" menu) a checklist of the features you can apply will appear. Turn off the STEER_REARWHEELS feature (normally called a "flag") and you will have normal front wheel steering. Edited September 1, 2005 by Cerbera Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/211881-sawipscr-digger-jcb-4cx/#findComment-3156231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcolleye Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 is this mod ready ???? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/211881-sawipscr-digger-jcb-4cx/#findComment-3157280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA3Freak-2001 Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 is this mod ready ???? Well do you see a REL topic for it yet? If there's not then its not ready yet. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/211881-sawipscr-digger-jcb-4cx/#findComment-3157325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenMillard Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 (edited) Thx for the response. However that is not my problem. I can make the dozer FWD. However it still has turning issues. It seems it "turns" from the back rather then the front. Its hard to explain. Set the dozer to FWD in your game, then you will see what I mean, its as if its on ice as it were.I don't understand how this is a different problem to the one my previous post explained and solved. Making it Front Wheel Drive will change which wheels are driven, not which wheels are steered. To stop it steering from the rear, you have to turn off the REARWHEEL_STEER flag. Just like I said. Post your current handling line here. It might be that you've modified it from the original Dozer line by giving it extremely low traction settings or an extremely rearward CenterOfMass. Edited September 2, 2005 by Cerbera Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/211881-sawipscr-digger-jcb-4cx/#findComment-3157666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazla Posted September 2, 2005 Author Share Posted September 2, 2005 Yea I believe its related to CoG/M. It seems to be light at the front and heavy on the back. Anyways. Just change the dozer to FWD, you will see what I mean, it kinda "slides". Im at my GFs atm so I cant give you the exact line which I have. However try the DOZER line with the rearwheel steering flag off. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/211881-sawipscr-digger-jcb-4cx/#findComment-3157790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenMillard Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 (edited) FWD does not mean front wheel steering, it means front wheel drive. Why can't you understand that? DOZER 10000.0 35000.0 20.0 0.0 -0.5 -0.5 90 0.85 0.8 0.60 5 100.0 35.0 150.0 4 D 5.0 0.40 0 45.0 1.4 0.15 0.0 0.25 -0.20 0.35 0.0 0.45 0.20 5000 308 340220 0 1 17 That is the original handling line for the Dozer. It does have a very rearward CoM and it has a very forward TractionBias. It also has rear wheel steering and four wheel drive, which is 4WD because "WD" means "Wheel Drive" and not "Wheel Steering" like you seem to think. DOZER 10000.0 35000.0 20.0 0.0 -0.05 -0.5 90 0.85 0.8 0.48 5 100.0 35.0 150.0 4 D 5.0 0.70 0 45.0 1.4 0.15 0.0 0.25 -0.20 0.35 0.0 0.45 0.20 5000 308 340200 0 1 17 Try that. Mass is very slightly rearward, grip is quite rearward, front wheel steering and four wheel drive. Because the JCB would be faster than this massive bullzozer, you might want to reduce the DragMultiplier from 20 down to 15. Any lower than that and you'll need to reconfigure the Acceleration and EngineInertia settings. I drove it around the quarry and on open roads and it seems fine, even when doing the hairpin turns at the bottom of steep slopes and driving along the sides of cliff faces. Edited September 2, 2005 by Cerbera Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/211881-sawipscr-digger-jcb-4cx/#findComment-3158871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazla Posted September 2, 2005 Author Share Posted September 2, 2005 (edited) I know what it means...You know what I mean . Front wheel Drive is when the engine drives the front wheels. 4wd the engine drives all and rear wheel etc...I just use that as a bad example I suppose..But you get what I meant so..lol Thats nice handling for the bulldozer. However my JCB is different, perhaps I can send you a model to work with? OFC credits will be in the readme for this Edited September 2, 2005 by Dazla Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/211881-sawipscr-digger-jcb-4cx/#findComment-3159214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazla Posted September 4, 2005 Author Share Posted September 4, 2005 Discovered that the dozer can have damageable parts ..Wonder if this works for bikes and planes??? hmm. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/211881-sawipscr-digger-jcb-4cx/#findComment-3164083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
denracer Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 Discovered that the dozer can have damageable parts ..Wonder if this works for bikes and planes??? hmm. yeah try it on a bf400 :-D maybe a broken front vork or lights broken Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/211881-sawipscr-digger-jcb-4cx/#findComment-3164443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinky Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Back on the handling topic, I don't know if you guys have discovered or not that altering the Chassis dummy alters a vehicles handling without even editing the handling code. I found this out while messing with a large transport aircraft (inspired by Dazlas Chinook) I am making to replace the Hydra, I think the dummy is the vehicles actual center of gravity or some sort of pivot point for the movement. The only alterations I have made in the handling file is the animation groups. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/211881-sawipscr-digger-jcb-4cx/#findComment-3169566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazla Posted September 6, 2005 Author Share Posted September 6, 2005 I figured out the handling..But yes you are right, however I prefer to put the model in the middle and set the centre of mass to 0.0, then work from there. as its a whole lot less fiddly. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/211881-sawipscr-digger-jcb-4cx/#findComment-3169605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DRuG]NikT Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Lookin sweet as, Daz, as usual, u are the master of mods with depth & playability. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/211881-sawipscr-digger-jcb-4cx/#findComment-3169640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxmortensen Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 is it finish yet Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/211881-sawipscr-digger-jcb-4cx/#findComment-3175102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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